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A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich
So question, why is Elsa trying to gently caress up her headlining act? I get she's jelly and all but drat.

Also, kinda hating Angela Basset's character already because "poofs" are lower than freaks.

A. Beaverhausen fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Oct 17, 2014

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criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it

A. Beaverhausen posted:

So question, why is Elsa trying to gently caress up her headlining act? I get she's jelly and all but drat.

Also, kinda hating Angela Basset's character already because "poofs" are lower than freaks.

I'm gay and that didn't bother me one bit. It is the 50's, after all.

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich
Yeah, I know, but the black hermaphrodite really doesn't have room to talk in that time period.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

Periodiko posted:

You think the writers of American Horror Story care more about the plot than exploring the show's themes?

Well, that theme doesn't make sense. These "freaks" are reviled to the point that people puke when they see Siamese twins that are otherwise beautiful, yet they don't flinch when they see a monstrous 7 foot tall filthy clown that's got a hosed up mouth and is wearing another person's scalp on his head?

That theme is inconsistent, if anything. That's this shows biggest flaw, inconsistently. It's still great entertainment, but don't fool yourself that there are deep underlying clever plot lines or anything.

Kindjal
Dec 10, 2003

Time to let go. Follow me.
Did anyone else think Meep looked an awful lot like the Infantata from S1? I dunno if it was an intentional callback or anything, but he looked creepy as gently caress to me, especially in the first episode when they introduced him.

The Unholy Ghost
Feb 19, 2011

Kindjal posted:

Did anyone else think Meep looked an awful lot like the Infantata from S1? I dunno if it was an intentional callback or anything, but he looked creepy as gently caress to me, especially in the first episode when they introduced him.

It's the same actor.

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Feb 2, 2009



BIG DICK NICK
A Philadelphia Legend
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This is the best season of Glee.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
I legitimately hope they have a song every episode. So far they've been awesome.

JHomer722
Jul 30, 2006

And you, you ridiculous people, you expect me to help you.

I havent watched this season yet because I heard coven was so bad, but Im curious: Did the shows serialized format allow it to start with clean slate? Basically, is there a noticeable change in quality this season?

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
So far it is better, but Coven started out pretty good in my opinion. Ending was ok too, the middle was what sucked.

Windows 98
Nov 13, 2005

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Because they mentioned Pepper by name in the diner scene I will be pretty stoked if they have her eventually get sent away to an asylum at some point.

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Feb 2, 2009



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Bottom Liner posted:

I legitimately hope they have a song every episode. So far they've been awesome.

They are legitimately doing what Glee should have. This anachronistic music is interesting and plot driven, now if we can only find a way to shoehorn in some Rhianna.

Also, I liked Coven. I like this one too, but the double head CGI can look really lovely at times.

Captain Mog
Jun 17, 2011
I feel like AHS is a show best watched 90% for the spectacle, 10% for everything else. The individual scenes and situations are great but the overarching plot and character arcs leave much to be desired. That being said, I love this show so I think it succeeds wonderfully on that point.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

WeLandedOnTheMoon! posted:

I like this one too, but the double head CGI can look really lovely at times.

It's pretty poo poo yeah, but at least Paulson's acting of the two roles side by side is awesome. She's actually my favorite talent on the show besides Bates. Angela Bassett was great in Coven, but not buying her character yet here.

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.

Windows 98 posted:

Because they mentioned Pepper by name in the diner scene I will be pretty stoked if they have her eventually get sent away to an asylum at some point.

It's possible, but I think Murphy said that she and Salty grew up in the same orphanage, which would suggest this is an alternate reality, given that Asylum Pepper was accused of killing her sister's baby. Unless Pepper is eventually adopted by someone post-Freak Show.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

OmegaBR posted:

It's possible, but I think Murphy said that she and Salty grew up in the same orphanage, which would suggest this is an alternate reality, given that Asylum Pepper was accused of killing her sister's baby. Unless Pepper is eventually adopted by someone post-Freak Show.

Wasn't it said though that her killing her sister's baby turned out to be a lie?

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Nihonniboku posted:

Wasn't it said though that her killing her sister's baby turned out to be a lie?

Yeah, but she still had a sister. I think the way it ended was that she revealed after the aliens altered her intelligence that her sister and brother-in-law framed her for the murder. I don't remember why, maybe just to get rid of her and the baby in one fell swoop?


OmegaBR posted:

It's possible, but I think Murphy said that she and Salty grew up in the same orphanage, which would suggest this is an alternate reality, given that Asylum Pepper was accused of killing her sister's baby. Unless Pepper is eventually adopted by someone post-Freak Show.

Who the gently caress is Salty?

Edmund Lava
Sep 8, 2004

Hey, I'm from Brooklyn. I'm going to call myself Mr. Friendly.

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Who the gently caress is Salty?

Salty is the other microcephalic. Both of them were named in the first episode if you had closed captioning on.

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich
Get it? Salty and Pepper :haw:

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Yeah, I think people are reaching for plot holes so far, it's pretty easy to give the benefit of the doubt to a few of the situations - the guy doesn't recognize Twisty's standing in the place of a mannequin because he's internally freaking out about the trail of blood he's following, Dandy's mom's judgment is probably about where'd you expect from someone living in a weird Mother-Son take on the What Ever Happened to Baby Jane mansion, etc.

The only thing that's really bugged me so far is Jimmy's cognitive dissonance between being part of opium orgies with the rest of the staff and grandstanding about how he's just like everyone else - if they made the really tall woman the mouthpiece of that message I could buy it because I don't remember her being in the video and she was like the only one to follow basic social norms in the diner scene.

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.
I could see Jimmy going off on her, particularly when lamenting about Del, because neither are really "freaks" the way he is. He's just a big guy and she's just tall. They don't necessarily draw attention, and scorn, like the rest.

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
This show is so loving stupid, I love it.

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich

OmegaBR posted:

I could see Jimmy going off on her, particularly when lamenting about Del, because neither are really "freaks" the way he is. He's just a big guy and she's just tall. They don't necessarily draw attention, and scorn, like the rest.

I would agree, but I'm still not sure if Eve is Trans in the show or do we just ignore that and see the character portrayed, because it was pretty obvious she was Trans from her first line onward.

Advice
Feb 17, 2007

Je veux ton amour
Et je veux ton revanche
Je veux ton amour
I don't wanna be friends

sector_corrector posted:

This show is so loving stupid, I love it.

Thread title?

Dr. Benway
Dec 9, 2005

We can't stop here! This is bat country!

Random Stranger posted:

Welp, I'm out.

Didn't even read the rest of your post. I was just so happy with that part.

April
Jul 3, 2006


According to Ryan Murphy, the first two episodes have clues about next season, and it's not outer space. Any ideas? The only thing that really jumped out at me was the robot, but I doubt that means anything. You guys are way better at this than I am.... thoughts?

TrekBek
Mar 27, 2013

slug life
He says it's not outer space, because space is not American.

But the Moon...

KIT HAGS
Jun 5, 2007
Stay sweet
Maybe something to do with theater? I only watched each episode once, but I'm going off Dandy's opera glasses from episode 1 and his bizarro puppet show from episode 2.

Or maybe it'll be American Horror Story: Sex Show.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
American Horror Story: Diner

KIT HAGS
Jun 5, 2007
Stay sweet
What if the next season is prison themed? Episode one we see the two kids become imprisoned and in episode two we had Meep.

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Feb 2, 2009



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Coconut Indian posted:

Maybe something to do with theater? I only watched each episode once, but I'm going off Dandy's opera glasses from episode 1 and his bizarro puppet show from episode 2.

This would be cool

ghostwritingduck
Aug 26, 2004

"I hope you like waking up at 6 a.m. and having your favorite things destroyed. P.S. Forgive me because I'm cuter than that $50 wire I just ate."

ShaqDiesel posted:

Did anyone mention the god drat serial killer clown walking down the loving highway while a police manhunt was going on? Did anyone also mention that an upper class widow decided to pull over and pick up the dirt covered, non-speaking, serial killer clown and bring him INTO HER GOD drat HOUSE? TO PLAY WITH HER SON?

I know you can do better, Murph.

This stuff was intentionally funny.

Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!
Hair Elf
Mind you this is the 1950s, were "serial clown killers" a thing back then? Surely now we see this and think, he's a killer, but put in the mindset of an upper class white woman in the 50s maybe something is different enough that it makes sense.

For all the faults this show has, and trust me I recognize them, I still applaud this show for taking the risks that it does. I like the uniqueness of the show and characters, and it's just enough to keep me entertained. I like that they keep each season different with a new story.

Edmund Lava
Sep 8, 2004

Hey, I'm from Brooklyn. I'm going to call myself Mr. Friendly.

I was thinking theater earlier too. But are there any real theater horror tropes outside of Phantom of the Opera?

Parasol Prophet
Aug 31, 2012

We Are Best Friends Now.

April posted:

According to Ryan Murphy, the first two episodes have clues about next season, and it's not outer space. Any ideas? The only thing that really jumped out at me was the robot, but I doubt that means anything. You guys are way better at this than I am.... thoughts?

American Horror Toy Story.

(Man, I wish it was the robot. I want retro-style robots on TV!)

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich

Coconut Indian posted:

Maybe something to do with theater? I only watched each episode once, but I'm going off Dandy's opera glasses from episode 1 and his bizarro puppet show from episode 2.

Or maybe it'll be American Horror Story: Sex Show.

I really, really hope so. A theatre troupe would be a good cast concept, and acting about acting would be so meta, it would fit.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Wait a minute, a robot... and a Yul Brynner puppet. Next season is going to be a Westworld-style amusement park with evil animatronics!

Parasol Prophet
Aug 31, 2012

We Are Best Friends Now.
This is only tangentially related to that idea, but dear God what I wouldn't give for an AHS western.

Now I'm going to go back and look for any clue that could give me hope.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Tailored Sauce posted:

Mind you this is the 1950s, were "serial clown killers" a thing back then? Surely now we see this and think, he's a killer, but put in the mindset of an upper class white woman in the 50s maybe something is different enough that it makes sense.

Despite the :biotruths: people try and use to rationalize it, coulrophobia is limited almost entirely to America and even then it doesn't really appear until a few decades ago.

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MadSparkle
Aug 7, 2012

Can Bernie count on you to add to our chest's mad sparkle? Can you spare a little change for an old buccaneer?
It's so weird that this is set in Jupiter. My family lives there. That place has no spanish moss, and I am annoyed that they made it seem like it had it. It doesn't. Jupiter is pretty far south.
Maybe there is an outer space theme though for next season.

I'm really, really missing Lily Rabe this season. It's like a phantom pain. I want her being all fabulous and showing up.

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