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Stottie Kyek
Apr 26, 2008

fuckin egg in a bun
Food, clothes, transport, beds, ovens: the aid schools are giving UK pupils

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Pupil premium money, on which many of these heads rely to provide free breakfast clubs, uniform, educational trips, school transport and salaries for staff who are effectively working as school-based social workers, is not supposed to be spent in this way, points out Dr Sam Baars at the education thinktank LKMco. “The Department for Education warns against using the pupil premium to fill in for expired social welfare programmes,” he says, “so when it comes to this particular area of school funding, the guidance is explicitly not to spend it on welfare.”

“It comes up time and again,” says Marc Rowland, deputy director at the National Education Trust, and author of A Practical Guide to the Pupil Premium. “From school leaders’ point of view, that money is for some of the most vulnerable ... the DfE’s view is that it should be focused on raising attainment and achievement.”

If a school is spending pupil premium on uniform, Rowland says, it will need to find a way to measure the impact, perhaps by showing that it’s resulted in a child coming to school more often. If a school provides a free breakfast club to incentivise attendance using the pupil premium pot, heads will have to justify that in terms of better results, rather than simply stating that children are hungry and need to be fed.

quote:

These problems are not suddenly going to disappear. The Child Poverty Action Group says that the 3.5 million children already living in poverty will be joined by another 600,000 by 2016, with the total rising to 4.7 million by 2020.

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If a child can’t access their right to education because of their living conditions, and there is no other support available, “then schools are morally bound to do whatever they can to help.” But, he says, “schools should not have to be a replacement for the welfare state”.

This is absolutely appalling. I just saw a Save the Children advert appeal on TV for kids in the UK in situations like those too. The whole article's a terrible thing but the last quote stood out to me - schools, charities, food banks, family members, loan sharks and credit unions are all acting as replacements for the welfare state, and they're either not equipped or not intended to provide that support.

edit: formatting

Stottie Kyek fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Oct 17, 2014

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HortonNash
Oct 10, 2012
Quick question, what does "in real terms" mean? It seems to be being used an awful lot by the Tories and their Quisling pals whenever anyone claims that they're cutting X, "We've raised NHS spending, in real terms".

Andre Le Fuckface
Oct 4, 2008

:pwm:

HortonNash posted:

Quick question, what does "in real terms" mean? It seems to be being used an awful lot by the Tories and their Quisling pals whenever anyone claims that they're cutting X, "We've raised NHS spending, in real terms".

It means nothing without a figure attached but it's the amount in relation to inflation so increasing spending in real terms by 1% would be increasing spending by 1% more than inflation

tentish klown
Apr 3, 2011

Zero Gravitas posted:

You're thinking about Maisie Dee. And she definitely falls into the "Porn Clown" category.

Nope, I had to google it. Samantha Bentley.

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

tentish klown posted:

Nope, I had to google it. Samantha Bentley.

What? When the hell did she do GoT?

nuzak
Feb 13, 2012

HortonNash posted:

Quick question, what does "in real terms" mean? It seems to be being used an awful lot by the Tories and their Quisling pals whenever anyone claims that they're cutting X, "We've raised NHS spending, in real terms".

Also lol at the idea that spending more on the NHS is by itself a good thing. Yeah mate of course you're spending more, you privatised it.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Gorn Myson posted:

The one with Tyrion? I'm not sure and I can't be bothered to check, but I'm pretty sure shes German.
That's Sibel Kekilli, and she is German. She started off in porn but moved into mainstream acting fairly early on (and has received German acting awards). She was disowned by her family after being outed by a newspaper during the publicity for her first big legitimate role. :smith:

Game of Thrones has quite a lot of extras who came from porn (hur hur), due to the show's enthusiasm for 'sexposition'. There's a Daily Mail article on them, and I'm sure Emilia Clarke was delighted to be included in it.

Saki
Jan 9, 2008

Can't you feel the knife?
Time to type a whole bunch of words about pornstars unironically.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Just about the only British porn star I have ever heard of is Ben Dover

tentish klown
Apr 3, 2011

Ddraig posted:

Just about the only British porn star I have ever heard of is Ben Dover

Ben Dover fact: His son is the elder child in Outnumbered.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house

tentish klown posted:

Ben Dover fact: His son is the elder child in Outnumbered.

Both his parents are porn stars which has got to be a bit of a weird thing growing up.

Andre Le Fuckface
Oct 4, 2008

:pwm:

tentish klown posted:

Ben Dover fact: His son is the elder child in Outnumbered.

Yeah, his name is Tiger Drew-Honey and his mum was in porn too. He did a very strange show about sex where there was a segment where he talked to his parents about porn and various things that shouldn't have been discussed with parents that was so bad it was good

Spooky Hyena
May 2, 2014

Choosing to benefit from an empire of murder and genocide makes you complicit.
:scotland:
lol, nice meltdown
New polling is showing more support for the conservatives than labour in Scotland, don't know if that'll make it to the GE though. Electoral Calculus is predicting 4 Conservative seats, 1 each of Labour and Lib Dems and 46 for SNP based on last Yougov results. EC is flawed, but it shows a trend at least.

Spooky Hyena fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Oct 17, 2014

Hungry
Jul 14, 2006

Zero Gravitas posted:

I have no idea what it is about the UK that makes us unable to come up with even a half decent porn star. They all just look trashy, comedically so. Like clowns.

Also, thread, I need a sanity check - am I getting old? I'm sat here in the library and some undergraduate has sat down at the work desk opposite me, put her stuff all over the table like some kind of miniature fort and gone to sleep. Dick move since other people could be working instead of sleeping, but you know, whatever.

But then to crown this, she's been stupid enough to leave her apple trilogy of laptop/pad/phone neatly stacked to one side so that anyone could walk by and swipe it in one fell motion and walk out the door with up to £1500 worth of gear inside of 30 seconds. And she thought it was a good idea to then sleep having done this.

Kids these days :psyduck:

I used to sleep in university libraries all the time, as both undergrad and postgrad, but I sure as gently caress didn't leave anything lying around on the desk where it could be nicked.

Though once I slept for over an hour in the library of QM London, face down on the desk, and woke up with funny vision that lasted a good 40 minutes. Not a good idea, but she might be an overworked med student? I knew a lot of those and they loved naps.

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.

Spooky Hyena posted:

New polling is showing more support for the conservatives than labour in Scotland

Jim Murphy losing his seat to a Tory. How will we know the difference?

(worth noting that YouGov poll doesn't have a huge number of Scottish respondents: I'd be surprised if the SNP gained that much)

twoot
Oct 29, 2012

Spooky Hyena posted:

New polling is showing more support for the conservatives than labour in Scotland, don't know if that'll make it to the GE though. Electoral Calculus is predicting 4 Conservative seats, 1 each of Labour and Lib Dems and 46 for SNP based on last Yougov results. EC is flawed, but it shows a trend at least.

National subsections present a notoriously inaccurate picture of regional polling. The SNP are probably polling well but nowhere near that well.

Someone really needs to do a tranche of Scottish constituency level polling because Labour's national picture becomes a lot more muddy if they actually have to fight for their Scottish heartlands. At the very least it would be a massive drain on their funds.

Spooky Hyena
May 2, 2014

Choosing to benefit from an empire of murder and genocide makes you complicit.
:scotland:
lol, nice meltdown

Obliterati posted:

Jim Murphy losing his seat to a Tory. How will we know the difference?

(worth noting that YouGov poll doesn't have a huge number of Scottish respondents: I'd be surprised if the SNP gained that much)

I think it's skewed too, showing a decline in Labour support as being more extreme than it actually is. But still, it does show a large shift and I'd be surprised if Labour didn't come out with something new in response (Pandering to yes-voting scots? Pandering to little Englanders now that they don't have to worry so much about losing Scottish support? Could be anything, really).

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Spooky Hyena posted:

New polling is showing more support for the conservatives than labour in Scotland, don't know if that'll make it to the GE though. Electoral Calculus is predicting 4 Conservative seats, 1 each of Labour and Lib Dems and 46 for SNP based on last Yougov results. EC is flawed, but it shows a trend at least.

I'll believe that Labour get 1 seat in Scotland when on 8th May, and even then I'd probably have to pinch myself because it just seems so utterly unlikely. I mean I could see 4 Tories, but 1 Labour is utterly impossible to imagine, & gently caress, even just the 1 Liberal seems unlikely. I mean between Orkney & Shetland (Alistair Carmichael) and Ross, Skye & Lochaber (Charles Kennedy) I'd expect at least 2. I also imagine John Thurso will keep his seat, there'd need to be a pretty big swing for them to lose any of those 3, and even with how popular the Liberals are nationwide, these are constituencies that have voted Liberal for decades.

Although reading the site seems to suggest Ross, Skye, & Lochaber would be merged with Caithness & Sutherland? Had apparently missed that redrawing of the boundaries.

And now I've read all that again & noticed it says "This prediction is based on the proposed new 2013 constituency boundaries". So what's the point of that? Those plans fell through.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Oct 17, 2014

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

Hungry posted:

I used to sleep in university libraries all the time, as both undergrad and postgrad, but I sure as gently caress didn't leave anything lying around on the desk where it could be nicked.

Though once I slept for over an hour in the library of QM London, face down on the desk, and woke up with funny vision that lasted a good 40 minutes. Not a good idea, but she might be an overworked med student? I knew a lot of those and they loved naps.

Probably not a medical student as when she woke up she was making pencil notes in a copy of Orwells Down and Out in Paris & London.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Spooky Hyena posted:

New polling is showing more support for the conservatives than labour in Scotland, don't know if that'll make it to the GE though. Electoral Calculus is predicting 4 Conservative seats, 1 each of Labour and Lib Dems and 46 for SNP based on last Yougov results. EC is flawed, but it shows a trend at least.

Calling Electoral Calculus "flawed" is like saying Hitler was a "bad man". I mean, Jesus Christ, they seriously think UKIP will get 16% in Cambridge.

I'm expecting the SNP to get just over 20 seats, mostly from typically safe Labour constituencies in the Central Belt. The Tories aren't going to really make any gains, except maybe snatching Michael Moore's seat.

Leggsy
Apr 30, 2008

We'll take our chances...
Lord Ashcroft is apparently planning to conduct polling of Labour seats in Scotland to examine if there is indeed a nationalist threat. So I guess we'll have a better idea when those polls are published.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/17/super-prison-children-ministry-justice-physical-punishment

Has this been brought up before and I've missed it because loving hell

Phoon
Apr 23, 2010


quote:

Education has been cut in child prisons in the last month, so that children in Feltham get less than nine hours a week.

:psyduck:

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house

It's been deemed far more economical to lock up the children rather than lock up all the paedos.

Phoon
Apr 23, 2010

Kids in prison should get more education, they need it more and they have nowhere else to be

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


Ddraig posted:

It's been deemed far more economical to lock up the children rather than lock up all the paedos.

No, no, they're meant to be rounded up in football stadiums for their own safety, did Paedogeddon teach you nothing!?

e: I bet there's paedos disguised as superjails nowadays

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

holy poo poo.

no-way this happens, at least, I really hope there's no way this happens.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Right, blackface Morris Dancing.

Is this a genuine historical thing that has happened for years because poo poo, I grew up in Somerset and I saw probably your average amount of Morris Dancing, bells and sticks and all that clacking stuff. Generally rather un-inspiring bearded men for the most part.

Not once can I recall seeing people blacked up.

Is this a regional thing? Has it happened in parts of the country but I just never saw it, or is it a recent occurrence? I just can't believe it's an old tradition that I've never heard of. Perhaps it is.

Also initially I thought David Cameron was an idiot for posing with those black face muppets, but reconsidering it, perhaps he wants to come across as a bit of a racist.

Who the gently caress knows.

Spooky Hyena
May 2, 2014

Choosing to benefit from an empire of murder and genocide makes you complicit.
:scotland:
lol, nice meltdown

TinTower posted:

Calling Electoral Calculus "flawed" is like saying Hitler was a "bad man". I mean, Jesus Christ, they seriously think UKIP will get 16% in Cambridge.

I'm expecting the SNP to get just over 20 seats, mostly from typically safe Labour constituencies in the Central Belt. The Tories aren't going to really make any gains, except maybe snatching Michael Moore's seat.

It's a bad site for getting actual predictions out of, but it's a good way to visualise potential changes. Same as any poll, really. Speaking of which, Populus is showing nearly the same thing, which I am surprised about. I've seen reduced support for Labour myself, but not to such a large degree. Then again, I am in Glasgow north east.

JFairfax posted:

Right, blackface Morris Dancing.

Is this a genuine historical thing that has happened for years because poo poo, I grew up in Somerset and I saw probably your average amount of Morris Dancing, bells and sticks and all that clacking stuff. Generally rather un-inspiring bearded men for the most part.

Not once can I recall seeing people blacked up.

Is this a regional thing? Has it happened in parts of the country but I just never saw it, or is it a recent occurrence? I just can't believe it's an old tradition that I've never heard of. Perhaps it is.

Also initially I thought David Cameron was an idiot for posing with those black face muppets, but reconsidering it, perhaps he wants to come across as a bit of a racist.

Who the gently caress knows.

If it follows pretty much every single other blackface thing, the "rich local tradition" is a justification rather than a reason.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Well yeah, but with the Black Pete thing in the Netherlands it actually is a tradition, just not a particularly cool one.

What I want to know is if the blacked up morris dancer thing actually is a traditional thing or if people have just started doing it recently because they're racist cocks.

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


If anecdotal evidence is worth anything, I was brought up down the road from Banbury, where the picture was taken. I've only ever seen fat middle-aged bearded morris dancers, not blacked up ones.

IceAgeComing
Jan 29, 2013

pretty fucking embarrassing to watch

Spooky Hyena posted:

New polling is showing more support for the conservatives than labour in Scotland, don't know if that'll make it to the GE though. Electoral Calculus is predicting 4 Conservative seats, 1 each of Labour and Lib Dems and 46 for SNP based on last Yougov results. EC is flawed, but it shows a trend at least.

going back to this, it's a UNS projection of a national crossbreak of a poll, it's about as representative as asking a few people in the pub how they'd vote.

UNS works when you have a few parties changing relatively uniformly and not by huge amounts; the rise by UKIP (and it seems the SNP in Scotland as well) breaks it as lots of the movements will be more regional in nature and not universal - UKIP will probably perform well in seats in which they finished sixth with 0.5% in the last election, while it seems that most of the SNP rise is around the Central belt and especially near Glasgow, which UNS doesn't factor and simply raises UKIP's vote by 18% in everywhere they stood last year.

Hungry
Jul 14, 2006

JFairfax posted:

Right, blackface Morris Dancing.

Is this a genuine historical thing that has happened for years because poo poo, I grew up in Somerset and I saw probably your average amount of Morris Dancing, bells and sticks and all that clacking stuff. Generally rather un-inspiring bearded men for the most part.

Not once can I recall seeing people blacked up.

Is this a regional thing? Has it happened in parts of the country but I just never saw it, or is it a recent occurrence? I just can't believe it's an old tradition that I've never heard of. Perhaps it is.

Also initially I thought David Cameron was an idiot for posing with those black face muppets, but reconsidering it, perhaps he wants to come across as a bit of a racist.

Who the gently caress knows.

Yes, the historical claims have some basis in fact, it goes back a very long way and crops up in several European cultures as absolutely nothing to do with race. But as an actual "surviving" tradition it's bullshit - this is a revival, and now it has a totally different context.

HortonNash
Oct 10, 2012

JFairfax posted:

Right, blackface Morris Dancing.

Is this a genuine historical thing that has happened for years because poo poo, I grew up in Somerset and I saw probably your average amount of Morris Dancing, bells and sticks and all that clacking stuff. Generally rather un-inspiring bearded men for the most part.

Not once can I recall seeing people blacked up.

Is this a regional thing? Has it happened in parts of the country but I just never saw it, or is it a recent occurrence? I just can't believe it's an old tradition that I've never heard of. Perhaps it is.

Also initially I thought David Cameron was an idiot for posing with those black face muppets, but reconsidering it, perhaps he wants to come across as a bit of a racist.

Who the gently caress knows.

Holy poo poo!

I used to think it was just some old, misconstrued tradition until I saw the headdresses that some dancers wear. There's almost no way that the ones wearing faux African headgear aren't racist fucks.

Phoon
Apr 23, 2010

I've seen blackfaced Morris dancers in Stratford-upon-avon

HortonNash
Oct 10, 2012

JFairfax posted:

Well yeah, but with the Black Pete thing in the Netherlands it actually is a tradition, just not a particularly cool one.

What I want to know is if the blacked up morris dancer thing actually is a traditional thing or if people have just started doing it recently because they're racist cocks.

The thing is, even if it was ARE Tradition, anyone with any sense would drop the blackface bit, but they don't, even though they could keep the dancing and sundry activities perfectly intact without it.

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.
There's also Darkie Day in Cornwall which is just as bad as it sounds.

As regards Zwarte Piet in the Netherlands, I lived there a little while and whether or not he was racist to start with he definitely is now (black Dutch don't perform Zwarte Piet and his most public defenders are their UKIP equivalent party, the Party for Freedom). They add comico-racist big lips and everything. That being said they'll probably change it somehow eventually because every year the discussion happens again and it's a little louder (last year the UN even called them out on it and the Amsterdam Zwarte Piet event was met by protestors).

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Obliterati posted:

There's also Darkie Day in Cornwall which is just as bad as it sounds.

Ahahaha holy loving poo poo Cornwall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3udBZTBSmDM

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Will Straw (son of Jack) got in a bit of hot water for being in a photoshoot with some Morris dancers in blackface. He immediately pulled the tradition card.

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Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012
Here's a really interesting article about the recent blackface Morris Dancing stuff: http://rs21.org.uk/2014/10/16/morris-dancing/?utm_content=bufferb3579&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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