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OSW Review have finally jumped the shark. 6 minutes of video before they even get to the recap of the previous episode, 2 minutes of which is shilling their own merch. 9 minutes until they even get to the start of the actual show. EDIT: Christ, 19 loving minutes to get to the first match. Gyro Zeppeli fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Oct 17, 2014 |
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ch3cooh posted:So the Jericho show with Justin Roberts is co-starring...THE MIZ!!! It's a pretty fun episode, I don't know why Jericho kept it on ice so long (recorded in early August).
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Oct 17, 2014 17:01
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:OSW Review have finally jumped the shark. 6 minutes of video before they even get to the recap of the previous episode, 2 minutes of which is shilling their own merch. Eh for the amount of work that goes into one episode, I don't mind 2 minutes to sell some poo poo. Jesus if every other podcast followed suit instead of going 20 minutes before getting to the point then we'd all be better off.
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Oct 17, 2014 17:10
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Super Ninja Fish posted:I'm going to email him the same. Most old school workers frown upon anything beyond a basic skeleton of a match. There is an episode of Austin's podcast where he and the guest talk about Savage/Steamboat and then say it is a shame that it was planned out entirely because that's how Savage worked. Weird mentality of you value the end result, but there is a pride in the craft of an improvised match.
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Oct 17, 2014 17:17
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Someone synced the Austin podcast with the video here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/kd6TJSizKgENhp96p2u
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Oct 17, 2014 17:21
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:OSW Review have finally jumped the shark. 6 minutes of video before they even get to the recap of the previous episode, 2 minutes of which is shilling their own merch. i like that aepodcast saves their plugs for the end
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Oct 17, 2014 18:38
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Next OSW review...The Happening starring Mark Wahlberg.......ugh
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Oct 17, 2014 21:03
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:OSW Review have finally jumped the shark. 6 minutes of video before they even get to the recap of the previous episode, 2 minutes of which is shilling their own merch. god forbid osw spends two minutes shilling merchandise in a one hour and forty five minute, edited, video podcast that they do for free. what a bunch of assholes.
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Oct 17, 2014 21:10
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hey his time is too important to seek ahead in the video. he has to maximize his complaint posting time
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Oct 17, 2014 21:39
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him leaving the beer can at rocks head unreal subtlety.
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Oct 17, 2014 21:41
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That was really great commentary. Awesome insights into how they worked the match. It's pretty cool he's willing to do stuff like that that really explains the business in such specific terms, just the stuff about "taking the camera" was so interesting to listen to.
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Oct 17, 2014 21:57
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Would Vince have went along with Austin calling an audible and giving him the Stunner after the match ended?
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Oct 17, 2014 22:12
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EugeneJ posted:Would Vince have went along with Austin calling an audible and giving him the Stunner after the match ended? Since Austin said he was the one pushing to go heel and it wasn't Vince putting his foot down I'd say yes.
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Oct 17, 2014 22:15
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It's a shame that Heel Austin did such poor business because it produced a lot of great television.
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Oct 17, 2014 22:16
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NienNunb posted:It's a shame that Heel Austin did such poor business because it produced a lot of great television. Did it really do poor business? In 2001, the ratings in April, July, and August were a hell of a lot better than the ratings in March. http://www.2xzone.com/ratings/rawhistory.shtml#.VEGLx9x-9SU Even if business did go down, I would put the blame more on Rock leaving, HHH getting hurt, Guerrero leaving, Stephanie becoming the head writer, and the failure of the Invasion before anything to do with Austin. Everyone I know watching at the time was enjoying heel Austin. But some of the time like from Wrestlemania to Judgment Day, Austin seemed to be the only thing worth watching on the show.
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Oct 17, 2014 22:46
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Super Ninja Fish posted:Did it really do poor business? Austin never drew as big as he did when he was a babyface, and even turning back didn't revitalize him. When a big babyface turns heel, there will almost always certainly be a boost in business for a short while. It's the aftermath that causes trouble. Austin going heel didn't create or elevate a new star to replace him. Austin aligned with McMahon and over time became less and less cool with the target audience. The TV ratings boost in the summer of 2001 can probably be most attributed though to the Invasion angle, which did super business for a short period of time. Austin considers it probably the most regrettable mistake of his career. He saw his merch checks, house numbers, and TV ratings. He knows what he was worth at the time, and that it declined rapidly after the heel turn. Daniel Bryan fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Oct 17, 2014 |
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Oct 17, 2014 22:53
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Great White Hope posted:My favorite part is Austin outright going "Yeah here we are loving up" like a half-dozen times. My favourite part was when Rock was dropping the elbows on him on the apron and he was saying "yeah those could be a lot tighter in there, if I was dropping them they would have been".
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Oct 18, 2014 00:17
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Great White Hope posted:My favorite part is Austin outright going "Yeah here we are loving up" like a half-dozen times. i loved that because i've watched that match a million times and i never noticed how much they missed up, they covered it all up so well
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Oct 18, 2014 02:22
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I liked how Rock was presumably gassed while up against the guardrail and couldn't backdrop Austin into the crowd, so Austin just started beating the poo poo out of him
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Oct 18, 2014 02:56
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Also, that kind of stuff is why a lot of old-school workers don't respect guys who lay out everything beat-for-beat. They tend to assume if you do that, then you can't change or call stuff on the fly if something goes against the plan, or someone gets hurt or tired.
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Oct 18, 2014 02:58
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I think the criticism of Savage-Steamboat is unfair because they worked each other like 20 times on house shows in the 2 months leading up to Mania III. I'm guessing by the time they got to Mania, what you saw was the refined version of their match since they both knew what worked and what didn't. Shawn and Razor did a similar test-run up to Mania X and they never get criticized. Hall's even said some of the house show matches they did were better than their Mania match.
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Oct 18, 2014 03:13
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EugeneJ posted:I liked how Rock was presumably gassed while up against the guardrail and couldn't backdrop Austin into the crowd, so Austin just started beating the poo poo out of him I like how basically everything in that match was "this didn't go quite as planned, so I beat the poo poo out of The Rock for a minute"
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Oct 18, 2014 04:38
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Much like his podcast in general, the commentary was so good because it was insightful and explanatory without being condescending.
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Oct 18, 2014 05:06
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I really loved the commentary and hope to hell that he gets Bret in studio soon for WM 13. The swig of water was so drat sly. Also, I watched it on the Network so that I could play it on my TV with the best resolution possible and I found it really easy to sync. The one thing I would have changed is a cue for when to pause the match beyond just the sound dropping out.
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Oct 18, 2014 05:46
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If he gets Bret I hope they do the Survivor Series match too since as of a few years ago that was Austin's favorite match.
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Oct 18, 2014 05:47
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yeah if he does more commentaries I hope he's more mindful of letting us know when to pause.
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Oct 18, 2014 05:47
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Brian Shields interview with John Pollock was going okay until they got to talking about WM3 attendance and WM8's "lost" main event.
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Oct 18, 2014 20:34
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Daniel Bryan posted:Brian Shields interview with John Pollock was going okay until they got to talking about WM3 attendance and WM8's "lost" main event. Wait, what 'lost' main event?
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Oct 18, 2014 23:54
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Gaz-L posted:Wait, what 'lost' main event? I think it was Flair vs Hogan which got canned after Vince was disappointed in house show attendance that had Flair vs Hogan. I might be completely wrong though.
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Oct 18, 2014 23:58
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Yeah, Hogan vs Flair. Brian Shields, the author of the official book "30 Years of Wrestlemania" on why Hogan vs Flair didn't take place: "No one knows." I turned off the interview at that point.
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Oct 19, 2014 01:13
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ColonelJohnMatrix posted:I'm sorry if this has been posted/discussed in the main WWE thread but I didn't see it here and it is so loving funny. The first paragraph is such a Dave thing to say, and the second is loving hilarious. Vince is crazy. Another great story about Vince being Vince from Jericho's book has been floated. I guess it kinda belongs here as Jericho's a podcaster now anyway: http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2014/1018/583140/chris-jericho-says-wwe-star-challenged-vince-mcmahon-to-a-fight/ (yeah I know the site's questionable, but this is apparently sourced from the book) quote:In the book, Jericho claims that while on a plane Vince McMahon made a snide remark to Kofi Kingston saying, "Maybe one day you'll get over," a comment which visibly disturbed Kingston.
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Oct 19, 2014 01:21
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Lmfao the mental image. Vince owns so hard.
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Oct 19, 2014 01:23
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One wonders where the WWE would be if Jericho hadn't gotten over with Vince backstage and shot on Goldberg.
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Oct 19, 2014 01:37
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Latest Talkin' Shop is full of amazing stories about merch being stolen and a wrestling promoter terrified of "Japanese Style". It's really drat good.
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Oct 19, 2014 02:43
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Thauros posted:Another great story about Vince being Vince from Jericho's book has been floated. I guess it kinda belongs here as Jericho's a podcaster now anyway: Goddamn there needs to be a book written or a movie made about Vince. I know he'd never do it himself, but maybe after he dies Shane or Stephanie will do it. The legend of this man needs to be documented.
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Oct 19, 2014 02:52
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Grant DaNasty posted:Goddamn there needs to be a book written or a movie made about Vince. I know he'd never do it himself, but maybe after he dies Shane or Stephanie will do it. The legend of this man needs to be documented. Meltzer has already been contacted for this but I doubt he'll do that.
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Oct 19, 2014 02:53
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NotQuiteQuentin posted:Meltzer has already been contacted for this but I doubt he'll do that. he should have a book written already, due to be published following his death. I would buy the Vin Mac life story with all the low blows and high rolls
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Oct 19, 2014 03:31
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Another Person posted:he should have a book written already, due to be published following his death. I would buy the Vin Mac life story with all the low blows and high rolls IIRC he pretty much said it would be a long time before he did either a Vince book or an autobiography because doing either would mean he'd have to abandon the Observer and he has no current plans to do that
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Oct 19, 2014 06:14
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Wrestling Podcasts: 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZg8E72xXFA replace "book" with "shirt" when neccessary
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sportsgenius86 posted:IIRC he pretty much said it would be a long time before he did either a Vince book or an autobiography because doing either would mean he'd have to abandon the Observer and he has no current plans to do that If Meltzer writes does write a Vince biography I hope he gets a good editor.
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