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AtomD posted:then metro came about and it was actually p drat good on wp7. at the time everything else was all gradient and texture and skeumorph so flat simple design was a breath of fresh air. it may even have been influential. and tech sites went "wow ms did a nice design" and ms went "whhaaaaaaaaa? how?" and then completely misunderstood everything about why metro was likable in the first place when putting it in all their products post this original desirable metro (its abysmal isnt it)
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AtomD posted:u see zune ui was designed by an actual person with good taste
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metro was never likable and also wtf are you talking about with metro on win7 the zune software was great
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duTrieux. posted:metro was never likable and also wtf are you talking about with metro on win7 they are talking about notable shitastic windows phone 7, not win 7
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Beeftweeter posted:only 90s kids will remember this thing Literally the first thing I would do was turn that poo poo off every time I tried to use a computer with that on it.
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Oct 22, 2014 00:25
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its the 90s version of that loving language toolbar
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Thanks Ants posted:that loving language toolbar Trigger warning please
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TerminalRaptor posted:Literally the first thing I would do was turn that poo poo off every time I tried to use a computer with that on it.
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Beeftweeter posted:only 90s kids will remember this thing im the second identical help button edit: third? 3 help buttons in this poo poo
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fleshweasel posted:im the second identical help button but at least there is only one clock 
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theadder posted:post this original desirable metro wait wait its about context here's what ios and android looked like   which is what phones are supposed to look like and then all of a sudden ms does this  it was a bad os but so fresh tho
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its bad but that android lol
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hey google your linux is showing
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also i'm the 3 different e-mail options
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That Android pic looks like Gingerbread era Cyanogen with a custom skin, lol Handcent.
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AtomD posted:it was a bad os but so fresh tho almost flat > flat
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the flatness of the operating system formally known as windows phone is just too flat. when you get apps stuff that doesn't conform it looks terrible. when its on a bigger screen it also looks terrible because it lacks any detail. ios was going the opposite way, too 'skeuomorphic'
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pram posted:sucked then sucks now nutted
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Metrication posted:the flatness of the operating system formally known as windows phone is just too flat. when you get apps stuff that doesn't conform it looks terrible. when its on a bigger screen it also looks terrible because it lacks any detail. ios was going the opposite way, too 'skeuomorphic' ballmer was 110% behind metro-on-everything and it pretty much led to his downfall
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Metrication posted:the flatness of the operating system formally known as windows phone is just too flat. when you get apps stuff that doesn't conform it looks terrible. when its on a bigger screen it also looks terrible because it lacks any detail. ios was going the opposite way, too 'skeuomorphic' and of course apple knew that which is why yosemite doesn't mimic iOS 8 completely, even though iOS is more detailed than metro
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yes tim has truly delivered upon us a beautiful and refined computer operation system
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love how the feedback for win 10 is "give explorer tabs" and "bring back aero!" instead of maybe "make metro apps actually make loving sense on the desktop by doing something other than giving them a title bar" and lol and MS introducing the window opening "bounce" animation that OSX had in finder a while back and ditched in record time because it looked like poo poo, the subtle tilt and fade effect when opening/closing windows is about the only decent GUI effect MS has ever done
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:and of course apple knew that which is why yosemite doesn't mimic iOS 8 completely, even though iOS is more detailed than metro despite all of their fuckups lately apple is still the berst (best of the worst)
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I’ve been vaguely aware of Word’s Platonic ideas since I learned, years ago, that I had to create a new section when I wanted to change the page margins. But I didn’t realize how bizarrely Platonic Word can be until I started using it to create the manuscript of a complete edition of Auden’s prose. At the foot of each essay and review, the edition has a line indicating its source, for example, “The New York Review of Books, 2 May 1965,” or “The New Yorker, 27 September 1966.” While preparing the file for the publisher, I applied to all these lines a style named “Article Source”; this style arranged the lines so they were aligned at the right margin, and added a line space above and below. I was puzzled to see that when I applied the style, Word sometimes removed the italics from the magazine title but sometimes didn’t, for no obvious reason. When I applied the style to the first of my two examples, the italics disappeared; when I applied it to the second, the italics remained. A friend at Microsoft, speaking not for attribution, solved the mystery. Word, it seems, obeys the following rule: when a “style” is applied to text that is more than 50 percent “direct-formatted” (like the italics I applied to the magazine titles), then the “style” removes the direct formatting. So The New York Review of Books (with the three-letter month May) lost its italics. When less than 50 percent of the text is “direct-formatted,” as in the example with The New Yorker (with the nine-letter month September), the direct-formatting is retained. No writer has ever thought about the exact percentage of italics in a line of type, but Word is reduced to this kind of arbitrary principle because its Platonic model—like all Platonic models—is magnificent in its inner coherence but mostly irrelevant to the real world. In order to make a connection between heavenly ideas and tangible realities, Plato himself was reduced to inventing something he called the Demiurge, an intermediate being who translates the ideal forms in heaven into something tangible in the world. The Demiurge is an early instance of what programmers call a kludge—a clumsy and illogical expedient for dealing with a problem that seems too intractable to solve more elegantly. Word’s 50-percent rule for applying styles is a descendent of the Demiurge, and just as much of a kludge.
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PleasureKevin posted:I’ve been vaguely aware of Word’s Platonic ideas since I learned, years ago, that I had to create a new section when I wanted to change the page margins. But I didn’t realize how bizarrely Platonic Word can be until I started using it to create the manuscript of a complete edition of Auden’s prose. At the foot of each essay and review, the edition has a line indicating its source, for example, “The New York Review of Books, 2 May 1965,” or “The New Yorker, 27 September 1966.” While preparing the file for the publisher, I applied to all these lines a style named “Article Source”; this style arranged the lines so they were aligned at the right margin, and added a line space above and below. I was puzzled to see that when I applied the style, Word sometimes removed the italics from the magazine title but sometimes didn’t, for no obvious reason. When I applied the style to the first of my two examples, the italics disappeared; when I applied it to the second, the italics remained. it's bad
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a driver update from windows update bricks the device if it thinks it's counterfeit http://hackaday.com/2014/10/22/watch-that-windows-update-ftdi-drivers-are-killing-fake-chips/ lol
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Pinterest Mom posted:a driver update from windows update bricks the device if it thinks it's counterfeit that owns
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TerminalRaptor posted:Literally the first thing I would do was turn that poo poo off every time I tried to use a computer with that on it. the best part is its actually completely functional and even works with my os x desktop shortcuts and poo poo
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Shaggar posted:that owns
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pram posted:lol im the raised blacks
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DONT YOU BRING CODEC CHAT IN HERE PAGANOW YOU ARE RUINING MY MICROSFOT UTIPOA
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pagancow posted:DONT YOU BRING CODEC CHAT IN HERE PAGANOW YOU ARE RUINING MY MICROSFOT UTIPOA dsyp, do sign your posts
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Pinterest Mom posted:a driver update from windows update bricks the device if it thinks it's counterfeit lol if somebody can actually prove intent here then that's a felony under the CFAA
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Mr Dog posted:lol if somebody can actually prove intent here then that's a felony under the CFAA quote:The new driver for these chips from FTDI, delivered through a recent Windows update, reprograms the USB PID to 0, something Windows, Linux, and OS X don’t like. This renders the chip inaccessible from any OS, effectively bricking any device that happens to have one of these fake FTDI serial chips.
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pagancow posted:DONT YOU BRING CODEC CHAT IN HERE PAGANOW YOU ARE RUINING MY MICROSFOT UTIPOA Agreed
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Mr Dog posted:lol if somebody can actually prove intent here then that's a felony under the CFAA
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it's ok pagan cow i hate the gray "black" background too  
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