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The thing about shape is isn't doesn't exist in a vacuum. My favourite is the box shape (2x2 grid of one-space jumps, like table shape but with the connected stones separated instead) but you can't just say that's a "good shape," it all depends on what you did to form it and what the context is. It can be better than either the table or sake bottle shape provided that you can get one of the corners as a kind of kikashi. I also like the big bulge (keima-keima-ogeima triangle) and big table (box but with one corner shifted out one more line) shapes... in general, I like loose, two-dimensional, lattice-like shapes because they provide maximum flexibility later on... attacking that kind of shape is like punching a rope, pretty much... unless you've got a wall right behind it to sever it against, it's just going to swing away.
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 02:34 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 15:18 |
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xopods your supposed to post pictures. whats this one, spaceship? i like this one
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 09:16 |
uranus posted:pyf shape
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 09:42 |
motherfuckers will invariably say my poo poo is overconcentrated
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 09:43 |
Only the manliest of shapes here:
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 10:23 |
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uranus posted:xopods your supposed to post pictures. Alright alright... here is a meta-shape. A meta-big bend made out of a box shape, a big bend and a big table.
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 12:30 |
uranus posted:xopods your supposed to post pictures. Turtle shell.
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 15:14 |
You won't see one in the wild, unless it's surrounded by white stones and invariably open to losing its eye go always sounds cool out of context
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 15:17 |
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o.m. 94 posted:You won't see one in the wild, unless it's surrounded by white stones and invariably open to losing its eye Also important to remember with turtle shell and ponnuki that they're only good shape when formed by capture. They're actually very inefficient shapes to make with four and six stones respectively, but when you count the captures they actually reflect net investments of only three and four stones, which is why they're so great. Essentially, they're not really examples of good shape, but rather illustrations of why capturing stones is good.
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 15:43 |
I, too, have been chastisedfor calling diamonds ponnukis.
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# ? Oct 24, 2014 17:55 |
So I got "Inspiration of Pro" today and its great. Full board problems taken from top modern games, punishingly difficult for my level but the solutions are so inspiring. Recommended...
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 08:06 |
White just played 1. what the gently caress you gonna do
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 08:17 |
If I were to try to think of a brilliant pro move that is simple, elegant, and emphasises a global > local strategy that no one saw coming....... J13. If it were me in a real game I would be trying to find a way to live, not find it, play out 20 moves trying to find it and then resign when I couldn't.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 22:55 |
There is a way to live. But it's not easy and I still don't quite get the solution the book proposes.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 12:55 |
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My ideas: 1) resign 2) tenuki 3) try for some crazy desperate capturing race. Maybe starting at f15.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 13:07 |
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o.m. 94 posted:There is a way to live. But it's not easy and I still don't quite get the solution the book proposes. I bet it's some bullshit move like e15
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 13:12 |
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30 seconds of thinking yielded G14. It has some threats so maaaaybe it works?
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 14:01 |
lmao i transcribed the problem wrong. Boy is my face red
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 18:58 |
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o.m. 94 posted:lmao i transcribed the problem wrong. Boy is my face red Have you corrected it now or is it still wrong?
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 15:10 |
Here is the corrected image. Best of luck,
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 19:03 |
I fear for the safety of the white group on the right.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 19:17 |
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o.m. 94 posted:Here is the corrected image. Best of luck, D18, G19?
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 19:19 |
Pander posted:D18, G19? I feel the sequence D18, D17, C17, B18 will end badly for black. White will have 4 stones, and that's too many liberties to attempt whatever you call it when both sides of 3 stones are cut and you can't escape.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 19:22 |
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D18 and B18 would be the only moves I'd look at in a real game but have a feeling it's going to be something absurd like somehow you get G15, E15, C15 and D14 and it turns into a double ko to live or some poo poo. I hate difficult tsumego.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 21:02 |
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AdorableStar posted:I fear for the safety of the white group on the right. This is also a sensible thing to be looking at in a real game, but if it's tsumego and not a direction of play problem, sacrificing your group and swallowing them up is not a "solution."
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 21:18 |
xopods posted:D18 and B18 would be the only moves I'd look at in a real game but have a feeling it's going to be something absurd like somehow you get G15, E15, C15 and D14 and it turns into a double ko to live or some poo poo. I hate difficult tsumego. If you play B14 you can escape out that little hole in white; not sure if that even helps. B18 as I see it only gives you one eye.
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# ? Oct 30, 2014 02:07 |
Are we sure B18 is not a viable first move for Black
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# ? Oct 30, 2014 11:47 |
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o.m. 94 posted:Are we sure B18 is not a viable first move for Black I would be more likely to start with B18 than B14 as it's definitely sente, whereas B14 could potentially be answered with B17.
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# ? Oct 30, 2014 22:06 |
Since the last "Let's get people into Go" thread was made about a year ago, what do we think about making a new one in GBS even if the old one isn't in archives yet?
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# ? Nov 2, 2014 01:33 |
The imaginary approval for you actions rests on your ability to write an appealing thread
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# ? Nov 2, 2014 03:47 |
o.m. 94 posted:The imaginary approval for you actions rests on your ability to write an appealing thread I did not intend to do it as I am not as good a writer as Oiseaux.
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# ? Nov 2, 2014 03:50 |
Word
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# ? Nov 2, 2014 03:57 |
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i think its a good idea. i will post dumb things so people know you dont have to be smart to play.
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# ? Nov 2, 2014 07:23 |
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jonopus/cartographytm-make-your-mark-on-the-maptm territory capturing board game based on go but on a map?
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# ? Nov 2, 2014 17:55 |
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Make sure it has plenty of go rage pics.
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# ? Nov 2, 2014 19:22 |
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so is someone going to make it or not. also xopods you are the board game expert, what you think of that one i posted
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# ? Nov 2, 2014 22:27 |
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uranus posted:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jonopus/cartographytm-make-your-mark-on-the-maptm Sounds interesting, but doesn't seem to have been playtested/independently reviewed enough. I'd be wary. If you want a game that has Go mechanics but is a different game entirely, Washington's War is weirdly awesome. It's a cross between a wargame and Go (about the American Revolution of course). You flip cities to your side by conquering them, but if a group of cities has no liberties (neutral cities connected to its blob), the whole thing will flip to the other guy. I played it with a guy who was a big wargame nerd (I don't play many wargames), but he had minimal Go experience and I absolutely crushed him as the British using basic Go strategy. It's just such an unusual mashup though. I really want to play again, but as the Americans this time, because they play very differently, as is usually the case with wargames. xopods fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Nov 3, 2014 |
# ? Nov 3, 2014 02:26 |
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The most unexpected surprise to ever surprise the go world happened. Soon hell will freeze over and Winds of Winter will be released. Stone-sound is back on KGS.
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# ? Nov 4, 2014 20:50 |
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tonberrytoby posted:The most unexpected surprise to ever surprise the go world happened. Xom fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 15:18 |
tonberrytoby posted:The most unexpected surprise to ever surprise the go world happened. àeáàaaaaaaâäæàaaaaaaa
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# ? Nov 4, 2014 21:12 |