Dropped $100 on it. Might sound a lot, but I picked up AP second hand for 5 dollars so all up, I'm getting two games for $52.50 a pop, one of which I've gotten 6 playthroughs out of.
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So here's my dilemma. I'm interested in the dev design notes, but very little else. Do I really need to fork down $74 just for that aspect? I'd really prefer if they'd make a website where I put down a budget and can assemble my own package with them determining that reward X would cost you $5 extra and so on.
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double nine posted:So here's my dilemma. I'm interested in the dev design notes, but very little else. Do I really need to fork down $74 just for that aspect? They sort of did that for Pillars of Eternity once the kickstarter for that ended, so you could always just wait and see.
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Am I reading that right that it is basically The Banner Saga: Alpha Protocol: The Gathering?
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Is Obsidian involved in this, other than having Chris Avellone as a stretch goal?
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double nine posted:So here's my dilemma. I'm interested in the dev design notes, but very little else. Do I really need to fork down $74 just for that aspect? You have 30 days, just follow it and see how their updates pan out.
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Munin posted:You have 30 days, just follow it and see how their updates pan out. I intend to, just wanted to fume my annoyance. edit: "annoyance" is a bit strong. Mild irritation is quite apt.
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Sam. posted:Is Obsidian involved in this, other than having Chris Avellone as a stretch goal? Obsidian isn't involved at all.
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Saw a youtube video once, now I can't find it. It's when you taunt Albatross after killing sis. Mike is as sarcastic as possible.
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Golden Bee posted:Saw a youtube video once, now I can't find it. ![]()
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Golden Bee posted:Saw a youtube video once, now I can't find it. Was it by any chance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf3q_hVEnIA&t=563s? The entire video is pro-click, its a compilation of all the ways you can be a dick in conversations.
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Tendronai posted:Was it by any chance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf3q_hVEnIA&t=563s? Holy poo poo at Maddison knocking the poo poo outta Thornton ![]() Never had that happen. I really need to replay this and be the biggest rear end in a top hat ever.
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Fathis Munk posted:Holy poo poo at Maddison knocking the poo poo outta Thornton I gave up halfway through. Mike rear end in a top hat is a dick.
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Fathis Munk posted:Holy poo poo at Maddison knocking the poo poo outta Thornton I was going to point out that SIE is mysteriously absent in that video, but then I remembered that she enjoys Mike trying to act tough so I guess it wouldn't be the same ![]()
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Two Finger posted:Dropped $100 on it. Might sound a lot, but I picked up AP second hand for 5 dollars so all up, I'm getting two games for $52.50 a pop, one of which I've gotten 6 playthroughs out of. The math checks out.
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So I started playing this totally blind except aware that goons love it and everyone else hates it, and I'm getting the feeling that pistols/tech might be slightly overpowered. Chain shot -> everyone dies -> Brilliance -> Chain shot again. Even bosses go down instantly. Stealth on the other hand I can't get to work. Enemies randomly zoom into my position even if I'm being quiet, sometimes I feel like they see me through walls.
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What armor are you using? Early on even the stealth armor isn't as quiet as your street clothes, but you said you have chain shot and brilliance so unless you have a bunch of armor mods that add noise that shouldn't be an issue anymore.
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Also keep in mind Stealth is meant to be used offensively, AP is not a game really meant for pure ghosting.
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Thoughtless posted:So I started playing this totally blind except aware that goons love it and everyone else hates it, and I'm getting the feeling that pistols/tech might be slightly overpowered. Yes, pistols are op as gently caress. Just sitting in cover while waiting for the crit shot to line up and popping heads at dozens of meters distance is bad enough but chainshot turns it into something else. Regarding stealth, just wait 'til you can turn completely invisible ![]()
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Yeah I prefer stealth runs in my street clothes, at least till the 2nd or 3rd tier of armours. It's that noise they're noticing.
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Tendronai posted:What armor are you using? Early on even the stealth armor isn't as quiet as your street clothes, but you said you have chain shot and brilliance so unless you have a bunch of armor mods that add noise that shouldn't be an issue anymore. I never did bother upgrading my armor, but now that I think of it I remember some of them being noiser than others. I'll try getting something stealthier, thanks.
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Scorchy posted:Yeah I prefer stealth runs in my street clothes, at least till the 2nd or 3rd tier of armours. It's that noise they're noticing. Yes, the ultimate stealth armor is actually just street clothes, they make the least noise of anything. Then if you're spotted, chain shot means it doesn't even matter.
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As others have mentioned though, the point of stealth is to get into a position where you can take out your opponents one by one, whether with close quarters takedowns or pistol shots. It's not so that you can sneak past all of them without anyone noticing and without harming anyone.
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On the other hand you can become completely silent and invisible and sprint around levels karate chopping and muay thai kneeing everyone to death. If you do want to go non-lethal, I would recommend shotgun blasts to center mass followed by stomping on their downed bodies.
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Basically, the Sound Dampening stat of your armour is the most crucial aspect of stealth. With a low SD enemies will be able to hear you from quite a distance. Street clothes and the second tier stealth armour have an SD of 5, which means they're completely silent as long as you stay crouched. Interestingly enough, the Advanced Stealth Armour has an SD of 6, which makes it completely silent even when you're walking. Buy it as soon as possible and enjoy never having to crouchwalk again.
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Crappy Jack posted:Yes, the ultimate stealth armor is actually just street clothes, they make the least noise of anything. Then if you're spotted, chain shot means it doesn't even matter. Of course, since Omen Deng says you stick out like a sore thumb, I find myself using the civilian clothes almost all the time anyway ![]()
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I have a plot question. I gave President Sung the data proving that he was going to be assassinated, yet he died anyway. Completely dumbfounded I figured that I did something wrong, but apparently that is supposed to stop him from dying. Is that the result of something else I did or is it a bug? If it isn't a bug I'm drat impressed by how interconnected every choice in this game is.
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Are you sure you didn't save the riot data instead? That choice should be the only thing that determines whether he dies or whether he lives and the riots happen. I've never heard of that choice being buggy. Did Sung tell you he was going to wear a vest when you met him?
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Tendronai posted:Was it by any chance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf3q_hVEnIA&t=563s? Psh, paling up with Brayko and letting him do his thing is the only proper way to go about that stuff. Dude is awesome. ![]()
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Your bodyguard is busy winning gold medal in dying.
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Hannibal Smith posted:Are you sure you didn't save the riot data instead? That choice should be the only thing that determines whether he dies or whether he lives and the riots happen. I've never heard of that choice being buggy. Did Sung tell you he was going to wear a vest when you met him? He died AND the riots started. I remember Mike telling him to wear armor but he kinda brushed it off, so maybe I just made a bad impression.
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Thoughtless posted:He died AND the riots started. I remember Mike telling him to wear armor but he kinda brushed it off, so maybe I just made a bad impression. If that's actually possible without bugs, holy poo poo.
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Yeah, the only story bug I remember is sneaking through the roof in the embassy in Moscow makes the game think you gunned down all the guards.
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Accordion Man posted:Yeah, the only story bug I remember is sneaking through the roof in the embassy in Moscow makes the game think you gunned down all the guards. Speaking of this, is there a way to actually avoid it?
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Thoughtless posted:Speaking of this, is there a way to actually avoid it? Yes. Don't sneak in through the roof at the embassy. That's the only way to avoid the bug, though. This ironically makes walking through the front door the stealthier approach. Crappy Jack fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Oct 26, 2014 |
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Thoughtless posted:Speaking of this, is there a way to actually avoid it? Not spoilering it, because Thoughtless should know about it.
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You can have a friendly chat with the door guard and he just lets you in, which I think is a sweet moment. The bug kicks in if you go out onto the roof from inside as well, if you open a door upstairs in the embassy and it goes outside, back away immediately.
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Don't you have to be tooled up with heavy armour for the front guard to let you in?
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Fil5000 posted:Don't you have to be tooled up with heavy armour for the front guard to let you in? If I remember right, you can just walk in wearing civilian clothes if it hasn't been staffed by marines. If there ARE marines though, you can wear combat armor and pretend you're back up?
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Deltasquid posted:If I remember right, you can just walk in wearing civilian clothes if it hasn't been staffed by marines. If there ARE marines though, you can wear combat armor and pretend you're back up? Yeah, the marine will comment about the extra weight being called in. It makes that entire mission a piece of piss.
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