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Let me help you out, Professor Eripsa: what Aaron Swartz did was both legally and ethically wrong.
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Wolfsheim posted:I want to watch season two of Alpha House (and many other fine shows) but am experiencing some financial issues. Think I can trick Prime into giving me a student discount by reactivating my old university email despite graduating several years ago, or do they actually check for that? You can do that, but you only get the free year of Prime once per account even if you use multiple emails.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:02
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Wolfsheim posted:I want to watch season two of Alpha House (and many other fine shows) but am experiencing some financial issues. Think I can trick Prime into giving me a student discount by reactivating my old university email despite graduating several years ago, or do they actually check for that? Just do what everyone in college does and start a new forwarding @school.edu mailing list every few months. corn in the bible posted:You can do that, but you only get the free year of Prime once per account even if you use multiple emails. I think they shortened the free period to like 3 months or 6 months or something, those fascists.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:06
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Discendo Vox posted:Let me help you out, Professor Eripsa: what Aaron Swartz did was both legally and ethically wrong. I think that there is a much, much stronger case that the paywall around the academic publishing industry is responsible for the far more dramatic ethical wrong, and that Aaron's actions are in line with a long tradition of civil disobedience to correct dramatic institutional wrongs. In 500 words, describe an argument that makes such a case, with reference to the theories and authors covered in class. Your answer will constitute 20% of your grade for the semester.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:09
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Eripsa posted:In 500 words, describe an argument that makes such a case, with reference to the theories and authors covered in class. Your answer will constitute 20% of your grade for the semester. It's clever that you're requesting someone do your homework assignments in D&D rather than in SAL.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:13
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Eripsa posted:I think that there is a much, much stronger case that the paywall around the academic publishing industry is responsible for the far more dramatic ethical wrong, and that Aaron's actions are in line with a long tradition of civil disobedience to correct dramatic institutional wrongs. Any action within the institutions of academia is morally wrong, though.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:15
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you can't escape the machine you can only liberate it
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Oct 26, 2014 21:21
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Eripsa posted:you can't escape the machine you can only liberate it Good to see a Markov generator at work.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:22
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quote:Aaron Swartz Wait, what am I missing here? I'm looking this guy up on Wikipedia and it just says he downloaded a bunch of stuff that he was granted access to? How is that illegal?
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Oct 26, 2014 21:22
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I can think of no better metaphor for your posting and ideas than the freeganism movement. (the best metaphor for my own posting and ideas would be  )VikingofRock posted:Wait, what am I missing here? I'm looking this guy up on Wikipedia and it just says he downloaded a bunch of stuff that he was granted access to? How is that illegal? Since Swartz was part of the "information wants to be free" movement, most online accounts of his actions are written by his fans and are pretty selective. He used a hidden connection setup to scrape a huge quantity of articles from the JSTOR database and was planning to torrent it all as a blow against "big academic publishing". This was, among other things, in violation of the JSTOR agreements that gave him access in the first place. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Oct 26, 2014 |
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Oct 26, 2014 21:25
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VikingofRock posted:Wait, what am I missing here? I'm looking this guy up on Wikipedia and it just says he downloaded a bunch of stuff that he was granted access to? How is that illegal? With the intent to distribute it. While I'm not some highfalutin ethicist or insane techno-philosopher like some people in this thread, my humble opinion is that it was legally wrong, morally correct and either way the government response to it was heinous.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:30
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corn in the bible posted:You can do that, but you only get the free year of Prime once per account even if you use multiple emails. I didn't even know about the free trial, I just wanted to pay $50/year  Of course, navigating my old university's help desk and getting it unlocked after like five years of disuse will be the real challenge.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:32
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:With the intent to distribute it. While I'm not some highfalutin ethicist or insane techno-philosopher like some people in this thread, my humble opinion is that it was legally wrong, morally correct and either way the government response to it was heinous. The government response was entirely typical of the way criminal prosecution operates. They gave the dude a bunch of plea bargain offers, which he turned down(he also made counteroffers, so it's not as if this was a one-way street). Perceptions of his moral righteousness are difficult to separate from his suicide, which advocates like to say the government somehow goaded him into.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:32
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Eripsa posted:you can't escape the machine you can only liberate it  Score: 1 Machine, 0 Eripsa
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Oct 26, 2014 21:37
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Discendo Vox posted:The government response was entirely typical of the way criminal prosecution operates. So, heinous?
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Oct 26, 2014 21:45
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ThirdPartyView posted:So, heinous? If anything, they softballed him because of his political connections and clout with the technofuturism crowd in the academy.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:48
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Discendo Vox posted:The government response was entirely typical of the way criminal prosecution operates. They gave the dude a bunch of plea bargain offers, which he turned down(he also made counteroffers, so it's not as if this was a one-way street). Perceptions of his moral righteousness are difficult to separate from his suicide, which advocates like to say the government somehow goaded him into,which they did 
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Oct 26, 2014 21:50
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Eripsa posted:you can't escape the machine you can only liberate it That looks like the jc Penney catalog "workwear" from 2019 when dumpster diving is the only work available "Non-GMO dumpster diving: your guide to being an overaged teenage runaway" "I'm glad we moved joined the aryan creativity religion, we can eat out like this and still afford meth"
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Oct 26, 2014 22:34
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Prove it.
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Oct 26, 2014 22:41
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SedanChair posted:That looks like the jc Penney catalog "workwear" from 2019 But they'll be out of business by 2019?! 
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Oct 26, 2014 22:43
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paragon1 posted:Prove it. the burden of proof is on the autist
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Oct 26, 2014 22:53
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KoldPT posted:the burden of proof is on the autist It is on the person making the positive claim actually.
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Oct 26, 2014 22:58
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drat, Rousseff pulls it out by 2 points in Brazil, 51-49. Might have another Venezuela situation brewing in Brazil in the not too distant future.
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Oct 26, 2014 23:05
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Arkane posted:drat, Rousseff pulls it out by 2 points in Brazil, 51-49. Might have another Venezuela situation brewing in Brazil in the not too distant future. lmao are you serious
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Oct 26, 2014 23:09
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man i hope this fairly inoffensive center left party doesn't go full chavez for no reason soon, wouldn't that be terrible guys. this is like saying you're afraid obama will go full stalin after 2012.
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Oct 26, 2014 23:10
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Badger of Basra posted:lmao are you serious He's Arkane (AKA Jon Huntsman) - it should be self apparent.
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Oct 26, 2014 23:11
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Arkane posted:drat, Rousseff pulls it out by 2 points in Brazil, 51-49. Might have another Venezuela situation brewing in Brazil in the not too distant future. Except for that whole part where Dilma and Lula did not expropriate any private companies (and privatized a bunch), did not expropriate any media, and where the stock market has vastly outperformed the previous administration.
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Oct 26, 2014 23:17
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i think he may be saying that evil communist rousseff is losing her grip on the country
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Oct 26, 2014 23:18
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joepinetree posted:Except for that whole part where Dilma and Lula did not expropriate any private companies (and privatized a bunch), did not expropriate any media, and where the stock market has vastly outperformed the previous administration. yeah but she wears that red blazer, total commie
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Oct 26, 2014 23:19
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Badger of Basra posted:lmao are you serious Probably too dramatic of a comparison, but the pieces are there. The country is at an economic stand still, yeah? There is corruption across the country and in many institutions, yeah? Petrobras is being tapped into/drained by politicians, very similar to what Venezuelan politicians started doing with PDVSA, yeah? The direction that Brazil is headed is not positive.
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Oct 26, 2014 23:23
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Eripsa posted:So I'm suggesting we make rank and order explicit and give everyone DBZ goggles so they can tell everyone's power level. But not just as an absolute value: I'm suggesting that "power level" is a community-relative thing, and that estimations of power level must be indexed to community and scale for it to have the proper organizing consequences. Okay, so let's say we build such a thing, and now everyone uses them to organize. he wasn't trolling, he posted it sincerely the thing I'm most insulted about isn't that he wants a real-life DBZ scouter, but that he doesn't even say "scouter", he calls them "goggles".
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Oct 26, 2014 23:25
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Arkane posted:Probably too dramatic of a comparison, but the pieces are there. The country is at an economic stand still, yeah? There is corruption across the country and in many institutions, yeah? Petrobras is being tapped into/drained by politicians, very similar to what Venezuelan politicians started doing with PDVSA, yeah? The direction that Brazil is headed is not positive.
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Oct 26, 2014 23:53
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dilma winning is nice
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Oct 27, 2014 00:03
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Today's the birthday of our 45th President.
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Oct 27, 2014 00:05
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Arkane posted:Probably too dramatic of a comparison, but the pieces are there. The country is at an economic stand still, yeah? There is corruption across the country and in many institutions, yeah? Petrobras is being tapped into/drained by politicians, very similar to what Venezuelan politicians started doing with PDVSA, yeah? The direction that Brazil is headed is not positive. this isn't new. what makes you think the pt will now go full chavez, and not in the previous 12 years? all of south america is going to slow down soon because of falling chinese demand, including right-wing darlings colombia and peru. tax cuts and privatizations won't make it better
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Oct 27, 2014 00:07
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Joementum posted:Today's the birthday of our 45th President. Bootsy Collins 2016
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Oct 27, 2014 00:08
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Joementum posted:Today's the birthday of our 45th President. It's not Rand Paul's birthday...?!
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Oct 27, 2014 00:08
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but obviously if they don't start furiously giving the business class a rimjob, it means they're secretly planning to abolish all private property and business
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Oct 27, 2014 00:08
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EXAKT Science posted:Bootsy Collins 2016 He's suited more for a Prime Minister role, you'd think.
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Oct 27, 2014 00:11
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fade5 posted:This is a real thing that was posted by Erispa Disgustingly shameful, mods please ban that sick filth.
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Oct 27, 2014 00:13
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