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Fungah! posted:It's worth noting that the atma drop rate was ~1% last I heard, so "more than doubled" doesn't mean a whole lot~ That's not how percentages work. Over twice as much is still over twice as much.
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So is that FFXIII trilogy ever coming out for PC? Has anyone used any FFVII mods? I saw some "HD" mods that replaced their field sprite with their battle sprite, new music (the pc version uses midi files), and even like a hard-type. I might go back through it for the hard-type if it was more like one of those FFT mods that really switch things up and not just add a ton of HP/up phys. atk/def on every enemy. Maybe like new placement and stuff. http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?board=35.0 Firstborn fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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Oct 27, 2014 23:45
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I did it I'm finally free
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Oct 27, 2014 23:47
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Firstborn posted:So is that FFXIII trilogy ever coming out for PC? FFXIII is already out.
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ImpAtom posted:FFXIII is already out. Yeah, I'm talking about the trilogy. One "box"/purchase for Return of Lightning, FFXIII-2, and FFXIII.
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Oct 27, 2014 23:50
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Tempo 119 posted:I did it Go forth into the world my child. Go forth and experience an even greater world of Yuels.
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Oct 27, 2014 23:56
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:That's not how percentages work. Over twice as much is still over twice as much. You're going from about a 1% drop rate at the end of a fate to probably somewhere between a 2% and 3% drop rate at the end of a fate (because if they bumped it to 3% they would have said tripled). Those are still pretty piddling odds, is the point I was making.
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Oct 27, 2014 23:57
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Tempo 119 posted:I did it You have fulfilled your focus. Sleep the sleep of Australian Crystal Lesbians. Until the Great Retcon summons you forth from slumber.
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Oct 28, 2014 00:17
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Firstborn posted:So is that FFXIII trilogy ever coming out for PC? The Steam PC version no longer uses midi files, that got patched with the PS1 soundtrack some time ago. But yeah there are mods to clean up the menu, replace 3D models and alter the difficulty which require you to actually use specific materia setups or fail horribly and add new bosses into the game.
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Oct 28, 2014 00:23
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Tempo 119 posted:I did it oh god why why would you hate yourself enough to do this plz seek help 
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Oct 28, 2014 00:47
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Firstborn posted:Yeah, I'm talking about the trilogy. One "box"/purchase for Return of Lightning, FFXIII-2, and FFXIII. Probably, when all 3 of them are out
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Oct 28, 2014 00:55
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Levantine posted:I played the game like a regular Final Fantasy RPG and had no trouble whatsoever, and the game remained challenging (in parts) for the entire experience. I only played the card game, I never refined the cards. It's not a bad game because another play-style is more optimal. It's a bad game because it's a Final Fantasy. SolidSnakesBandana posted:I played it like a regular Final Fantasy game as well. I used GFs over and over and over again because in previous games summons were the strongest attacks you could do. This was The Wrong Way. Sakurazuka posted:Same, I also accidentally levelled myself to 100 grinding weapon components without realising it would take me a fraction of the time just breaking down cards, and wouldn't gently caress me over by making the game even more difficult. Glad to know I wasn't the only one. I played the game pretty straight with only minimal grinding and no card-cheesing, and there were one or two dicey parts but nothing too hard. The only thing that gave me any trouble was Omega and I just Holy War'd it. I haven't touched VIII in like 10 years so it'd be kind of interesting to go back and break it (or just ragequit when random card rule spreads to everywhere).
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Tempo 119 posted:I did it Good job Only 2 to go
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Oct 28, 2014 01:43
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Fungah! posted:You're going from about a 1% drop rate at the end of a fate to probably somewhere between a 2% and 3% drop rate at the end of a fate (because if they bumped it to 3% they would have said tripled). Those are still pretty piddling odds, is the point I was making. It was 2% before.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:The Steam PC version no longer uses midi files, that got patched with the PS1 soundtrack some time ago. But do they replace that slap to the face of every FFVII fan better known as Cait Sith?
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kirbysuperstar posted:It was 2% before. You sure about that? All the numbers I've seen had it at about 1%
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Krad posted:Good job Nah   Those two actually have pretty good achievements. You see all the content and you do a couple of extra challenges, then right as your interest starts to wane they hit 100%. A graceful finish. FF13 is already pushing it because the whole post-game section is just super boring, but that last achievement for touching every item is loving absurd. I like collecting achievements/trophies to a certain extent, but I don't usually go out of my way for the crap ones like that. I honestly can't explain why I did it. At least now I'm caught up on all my podcasts, I guess.
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Didn't XIII-2 have some tedious rear end achievement for like hitting 50 enemies from behind without alerting them or something?
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Beef Waifu posted:Didn't XIII-2 have some tedious rear end achievement for like hitting 50 enemies from behind without alerting them or something? That's probably because people rightfully called SE out on what a loving slog XIII's achievements were. Treasure Hunter or whatever it was called is the worst offender, that poo poo wasn't fun in .hack and it is not fun now. Oh you mean equally tedious as XIII's? Not really. That achievement you mentioned is something you'll probably pick up over the course of the main story. Especially during Aca-loving-demia. Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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Oct 28, 2014 03:29
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Beef Waifu posted:Didn't XIII-2 have some tedious rear end achievement for like hitting 50 enemies from behind without alerting them or something? Only achievement I thought was tedious was the casino one, and you can just tape down the controller and leave it on overnight until you get the lucky roll or whatever. But yeah gently caress XIII-2.
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Bregor posted:Only achievement I thought was tedious was the casino one, and you can just tape down the controller and leave it on overnight until you get the lucky roll or whatever. Still going through XIII-1 (at Ch.9 now, not much time to play) and so far it's been surprisingly much better then I previously thought when I first got a PS3 copy long time ago (never got through more then Ch3 there). It's still not a great game, but it's at least 7/10 I'd say and very much playable. Art direction in some stages is very good. It's too bad we never get to do anything but run through some of the interesting places (like Nautilus). What's wrong with XIII-2 other then a dumb story (from what I heard)? I wouldn't call XIII-1 a great storytelling achievement either.
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No, you have not experienced why FF13 is a poo poo show until you reach chapter 11 and beyond. I was in the same spot as you, "Oh this isn't too bad. Maybe it was just the bad English VA-gently caress CHAPTER 13 AND EVERYTHING ABOUT IT!"
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oblomov posted:Still going through XIII-1 (at Ch.9 now, not much time to play) and so far it's been surprisingly much better then I previously thought when I first got a PS3 copy long time ago (never got through more then Ch3 there). It's still not a great game, but it's at least 7/10 I'd say and very much playable. Art direction in some stages is very good. It's too bad we never get to do anything but run through some of the interesting places (like Nautilus). FFXIII-2 completely hosed the difficulty scaling so that even the cool bosses are utter sleepwalks unless you intentionally don't level up your characters. The only fun fights in the game are for-pay endgame DLC.
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oblomov posted:What's wrong with XIII-2 other then a dumb story (from what I heard)? I wouldn't call XIII-1 a great storytelling achievement either. XIII was a bad story but it had some redeeming qualities, namely most of Sazh's character and the end of Hope's arc. The gameplay was repetitive for a long time but eventually became enjoyable. XIII-2 was a bad story with a bad time traveling mechanic and in my opinion the worst villain in the series that includes a literal evil tree and a literal evil cloud. Gameplay was a mixed bag since the battle system was better but they took away some of the role's commands for no reason (WHY CAN'T I CAST HASTE gently caress YOU) and a lot of the areas seemed like filler or just downright mean to the player (Academia 400AF). XIII-2's story was so bad that I haven't touched LR yet. I hated Caius, Yuel, and Noel that much.
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Oh...oh... Well, that's something to look forward to... or not. I'll still slog through XIII-1 but considering my backlog don't see XIII-2 playthrough for a long time then. I'd rather replay Valkyria Chronicles which is also PC bound (or a about 200 games in my steam/PSN/physical backlogs). That said... I am a sucker for supporting Japanese RPG devs on Steam just because so I'll probably grab XIII-2 if the price is as reasonable as XIII-1. I mean I even bought Agharest 1 ...
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You don't have to support by buying 13-2 because the entire trilogy is coming out regardless. If you're going to buy 1 more 13 series game, maybe get Lightning Returns instead because the gameplay is at least different and the story's such a shitshow that it can't get worse.
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13-2 was fine you babies If you played through all of FF13 and then expect its sequel to make tons of sense and be really difficult, like, what are you smoking. If you don't like time travel stories then fair enough, it's definitely one of those, but otherwise it's a smart, cheeky and completely bizarre companion to the main game. There's nothing "wrong" with it, at least nothing that should worry anyone who survived the dreadful final chapters of FF13 and is even considering coming back for more.
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Tempo 119 posted:13-2 was fine you babies No, it's much worse. The combat system was the best part of FFXIII and it hosed it up entirely while not actually adding anything particularly good and having some of the straight-up worst areas in a FF game ever. (Academia.) If you had problems with Chapter 13 in FFXIII then Academia alone will make you break the disc in half because FFXIII-2 had multiple areas infinitely worse than that in both story and design.
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I've only seen the LP of XIII-2, was Academia really that bad? Because from the looks of it that was drat near unplayable, but it's hard to imagine they consciously decided having random encounters every two seconds was a good idea.
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Academia's bad for sure, but there's no way a half-hour dungeon that throws easy forced encounters at you is literally the worst thing in Final Fantasy.
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Tempo 119 posted:Academia's bad, but there's no way a half-hour dungeon that throws easy forced encounters at you is literally the worst thing in Final Fantasy. I'm hard pressed to think of a less enjoyable experience within the main game. It's only stuff like the lovely-rear end ultimate weapon requirements in FFX which are below that.
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Momomo posted:it's hard to imagine they consciously decided having random encounters every two seconds was a good idea. welp
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ImpAtom posted:I'm hard pressed to think of a less enjoyable experience within the main game. It's only stuff like the lovely-rear end ultimate weapon requirements in FFX which are below that. 
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Tempo 119 posted:Academia's bad for sure, but there's no way a half-hour dungeon that throws easy forced encounters at you is literally the worst thing in Final Fantasy. It throws a stupid amount of easy random encounters that give poo poo reward and makes what should be a 10-15 minute area double to triple that for no reason, so no it's pretty up there. I even like 13-2 but that was the dumbest poo poo. The GIG fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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The GIG posted:It throws a stupid amount of easy random encounters that give poo poo reward and makes what should be a 10-15 minute area double to triple that for no reason, so no it's pretty up there. I even like 13-2 but that was the dumbest poo poo. Don't forget you pretty much have to mute the sound unless you enjoy the  BLARING SIRENS
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The massage minigame didn't take more than 5 minutes and could be done quick without having to stop and punch a trash mob after clicking every square.
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Actually, now that I think about it, 13-2 might be the worst game in the series.
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oblomov posted:I mean I even bought Agharest 1 ... What the gently caress is wrong with you?
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This actually owned, I'm sorry to tell you.
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