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Hughesmar posted:I can't be the only dumbass that thinks Missy is short for Mistress, which is the feminine form of Master, right? Right. Its just you. No-one else has posted this. No-one. Definitely not all the goddamn time. Goongrats on your definitely original idea
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Little_wh0re posted:Its just you. No-one else has posted this. No-one. Definitely not all the goddamn time. Goongrats on your definitely original idea Feels good, man. Thanks. Five golden manbabies or something.
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Missy is the Rani. Missy is the Master. Missy is the meddling monk. Missy is Romana. Missy is Borusa. Missy is the War Chief. Missy is the audience. Missy is the Master of the Land of Fiction. Missy is Davros. Missy is John Lumic. Missy is the Myrka. Missy is the Doctor. Missy is the Valeyard. Missy is someone new. Missy is Dodo. Missy is Katarina. Missy is Jamie. Missy is Adric. Missy is Professor Zaroff. Missy is OF DEATH!. Missy is an episode of Doctor Who: Confidential. Missy is the Time Lash. Missy is Servalan from Blake's Seven. Missy is Blake from Blake's Seven. Missy is Michelle Gomez. Missy is [ad infinitum]
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Missy is [ad infinitum] Martha Jones. Who is a Rutan.
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Oct 29, 2014 13:38
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You can make arguments for any of the above. eg. Missy is Adric: After surviving the crash of the freighter in Earthshock, Adric became obsessed with the people the Doctor let die during his adventures.
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Oct 29, 2014 13:42
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I'd make an argument for the Myrka but it would just leave a trail of green paint through the thread.
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Missy being the Rani would be maybe the one thing more retarded than her actually being Death and/or a Doctor Who Fangirl. Especially since it's being built up to such a big reveal, and because probably 95% of the show's current audience have absolutely no idea who the Rani is (though I'm sure if she is the Rani we'll see a bunch of new show fans claiming they "knew all along!" or something like that). It'd also be kind of... I guess distasteful, given that when filming the 50th Moffat kept harping on "I don't want to feature the old Doctors because the show is about looking forward, not back!" only to then go on to make the big bad of the next season probably the dumbest possible callback to the old show.
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Oct 29, 2014 14:53
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Missy is Ming the Merciless
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Chris Addison posted:I'd describe Seb in four words: Polite. Charming. Hiding. Something. A few more of the recent teases this week hint at Seb being much more than he lets on.
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Oct 29, 2014 16:24
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Chairman Capone posted:It'd also be kind of... I guess distasteful, given that when filming the 50th Moffat kept harping on "I don't want to feature the old Doctors because the show is about looking forward, not back!" only to then go on to make the big bad of the next season probably the dumbest possible callback to the old show. Er....distasteful is a really odd word to use. Also, not using old Doctors in the 50th was obviously because they are all old as dirt now, and a few of them have passed (plus Eccleston was out anyway), so it wouldn't be the same as seeing all the Doctors in their prime come together; the "looking forward" thing was a polite way of dancing around this. And even so, the 50th still featured Tom Baker and a bunch of clips of the old Doctors in the climactic scene. And Moffat has always been about callbacks to the old series, definitely much more than RTD was (I guess with the exception of bringing Sarah Jane back). Like, I agree with your first point, and most of what people around here say about Moffat, but there is no denying that the guy is absolutely in love with the old series, and wants to call back to it every chance he gets. There is only so much you can do with a bunch of really old actors and dated looking clips, so we mostly see the occasional clip montage (like in the 11th hour and the Name of the Doctor) or monsters/ideas from old serials.
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Guy A. Person posted:And Moffat has always been about callbacks to the old series, definitely much more than RTD was (I guess with the exception of bringing Sarah Jane back). Daleks, Davros, Cybermen, The Master, the Macra, Autons, Sontarans, Nestene Consciousness?
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Guy A. Person posted:(plus Eccleston was out anyway) And I think we all know why that is...  Is it me or has the overall "arc" just been consisting of clips shorter than Marvel after-credits scenes? Who is Missy? Who cares.
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Timby posted:Daleks, Davros, Cybermen, The Master, the Macra, Autons, Sontarans, Nestene Consciousness? Well, I figured the monsters and general mythos was a given. I am talking more about direct references and allusions to the old Doctors themselves. RTD obviously brought back Sarah Jane, and then there was the notebook from Human Nature/Family of Blood. Moffat has shown the older Doctors on screen in clip form on several occasions (off the top of my head: the 11th Hour, Nightmare in Silver, Name of the Doctor, the 50th) and seems less shy about pointing out that Doctor was 11 other guys previously. I unfortunately don't know enough about the old series (seen like 10-ish serials and gotten some backstory from a friend) so I might miss direct allusions when/if RTD has done them.
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Oct 29, 2014 17:04
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Missy is my declining interest in Moffat episodes.
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Guy A. Person posted:Well, I figured the monsters and general mythos was a given. I am talking more about direct references and allusions to the old Doctors themselves. RTD obviously brought back Sarah Jane, and then there was the notebook from Human Nature/Family of Blood. Moffat has shown the older Doctors on screen in clip form on several occasions (off the top of my head: the 11th Hour, Nightmare in Silver, Name of the Doctor, the 50th) and seems less shy about pointing out that Doctor was 11 other guys previously. It's not a clip, but this will always be one of my favorite call backs to a previous Doctor. 
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Missy is the Rani. Missy is the Master. Missy is the meddling monk. Missy is Romana. Missy is Borusa. Missy is the War Chief. Missy is the audience. Missy is the Master of the Land of Fiction. Missy is Davros. Missy is John Lumic. Missy is the Myrka. Missy is the Doctor. Missy is the Valeyard. Missy is someone new. Missy is Dodo. Missy is Katarina. Missy is Jamie. Missy is Adric. Missy is Professor Zaroff. Missy is You had this whole wall of text and you forgot to add "Missy is River". For shame.
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TL posted:You had this whole wall of text and you forgot to add "Missy is River". For shame. Um I only made serious suggestions??
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Oct 29, 2014 19:00
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Oct 29, 2014 19:00
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Well that confirms 1) Cybermen are on Missy's side in some nonsense plan of mass grave robbery 2) nothing I guess I was about to say this means she isn't just a computer simulation like River but we don't know if Doctor is the only one who is seeing her (calling out to everyone else is just acting so he won't catch on to that) And even if she's the regeneration of a past time lord, Doctor not knowing missy doesn't mean much because of how spotty twelve's memory is.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:18
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I didn't think much of this piece of promotional material... ... until my second look at what he has in his hands.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:45
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That's an Invasion era Cyberhelmet right? God I love those designs.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:47
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Omg, Missy is Handles?? This makes the Doctor mistaking Clara for Handles in the season premiere foreshadowing, instead of just a weird joke.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:48
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Guy A. Person posted:Omg, Missy is Handles?? And it puts Time of the Doctor in a new light, knowing that the Doctor and Handles were in a relationship. Haha.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:52
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PantsOptional posted:I didn't think much of this piece of promotional material... Seriously, what is up with Capaldi's chin in these promo materials? 
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Oct 29, 2014 19:53
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Acne Rain posted:And even if she's the regeneration of a past time lord, Doctor not knowing missy doesn't mean much because of how spotty twelve's memory is. All I took from that bit was this: "When the Thraskan puts his fingers in his ears, it is polite to shout. That's an old Venusian proverb." "What's a Thraskan?" "Well, it's an archaic word. The modern equivalent is 'Plinge'." "And what does Plinge mean?" "For heaven's sake girl, I've just told you. It means Thraskan." "Of course."
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MrL_JaKiri posted:You can make arguments for any of the above. eg. Missy is Adric: After surviving the crash of the freighter in Earthshock, Adric became obsessed with the people the Doctor let die during his adventures. You can't mend people! edit to fix my bad memory of a fantastic character Ms Boods fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Yeah, I thought it was Handles at first glance, but it's clearly an old-school Cyberman. I have no idea what that could mean but I'll be pretty happy if it comes out to anything.
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I have a secret hope that the cliffhanger for this episode is somehow a reveal of an old-school Tenth Planet Cyberman. It's not going to happen in a million years, but whatevs.
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HD DAD posted:I have a secret hope that the cliffhanger for this episode is somehow a reveal of an old-school Tenth Planet Cyberman. I might actually jump for joy if a Decent Cyberman shows up.
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Oct 29, 2014 22:47
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Klungar posted:Seriously, what is up with Capaldi's chin in these promo materials? It looks like they've stitched a mouth and chin from a different picture over that one. Maybe he didn't look grumpy enough in the original. Michelle Gomez has been airbrushed within an inch of a barbie doll too.
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Klungar posted:Seriously, what is up with Capaldi's chin in these promo materials? A really close shave.
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Oct 29, 2014 23:32
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Burkion posted:I'd be happy with Invasion Cyberman You can't help but love those guys. I always liked the pipes running along their legs. The look just made their outfits really appear to be extreme life support units, including cyber-braces.
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Mokinokaro posted:You can't help but love those guys. I legitimately prefer them to what we have now. They looked like body bags forcing the corpse inside to move along. It was fantastic.
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Burkion posted:I legitimately prefer them to what we have now. Yeah, the current Cybermen design is ugly. The face doesn't look like it belongs on the rest of the body and it all basically looks like a poo poo Iron Man suit.
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I'm interested by that clip because it feels like an RTD finale, with the gloating villain revealing some over-the-top plan to take over the earth.
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2house2fly posted:I'm interested by that clip because it feels like an RTD finale, with the gloating villain revealing some over-the-top plan to take over the earth. The closer we swing towards RTD the better. Moffat doesn't have another Big Bang in him so we might as well go full RTD instead.
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