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Dexo posted:But yeah, I was mostly just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Wards escape(if not the particulars) was a plan by those two. I'd be surprised. Coulson views his team as a little family, and Ward betrayed his family. I can't really buy that happening.
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Slamhound posted:So what are the odds that the Ward family is Hydra, with the brothers playing a long game where they can stake out any position for or against? I like this idea. The entire Ward family is HYDRA, each trying to out evil and out crazy the rest.
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Oct 29, 2014 22:33
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Coulson might use him with the lure of being back on the team, then betray him after he gets what he wants. That'd be neat.
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Oct 29, 2014 22:35
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Kheldarn posted:I like this idea. The entire Ward family is HYDRA, each trying to out evil and out crazy the rest. The brother trapped in the well is the craziest and most evil of all of them.
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Oct 29, 2014 22:42
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Dexo posted:The brother trapped in the well is the craziest and most evil of all of them. Well-bro is Skye's dad.
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Oct 29, 2014 22:44
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Timby posted:Too early to tell. Last week was a series low, ratings-wise, at 1.7 in the demo, and last night's rating was a very, very tiny improvement (a tenth of a point). It's not hanging by a thread or anything like that, but I can't imagine ABC is thrilled that Flash and Arrow are getting the same demo ratings with probably a third of the budget of SHIELD. It's a pity the start of season 1 was so terrible, it turned a lot of people off and it was really only the tie in's that drew me back. Less nerdier people are probably less likely to care about the tie in's either.
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Oct 29, 2014 23:03
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I watched it on the bus to work this morning and must have gotten the ending completely wrong. I thought older Ward was talking about how younger Ward had magical powers when he was saying something about his eyes being black. And I thought the ending was him escaping with super powers cause he took a breath and his eyes went black and all of a sudden he slipped through the cuffs. I mean small phone screen and all.
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Oct 29, 2014 23:05
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Scapegoat posted:It's a pity the start of season 1 was so terrible, it turned a lot of people off and it was really only the tie in's that drew me back. Less nerdier people are probably less likely to care about the tie in's either. That "This is a disaster / no, it's an origin story" line in the pilot just loving broke me.
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Oct 29, 2014 23:17
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I really hope the Senator is really telling the truth and Ward is totally bat poo poo crazy.
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Oct 29, 2014 23:28
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Deadpool posted:Well Flash is getting close but is not averaging quite as well as this. And Arrow is several tenths of a point lower. With the ABC average being so low and Disney/Marvel looking to push it there's a more than decent chance it gets renewed unless the ratings crater. If they decide to remove it from ABC, I wonder if Disney would be willing to work a Netflix-type deal with future seasons of Peggy Carter/SHIELD with someone like Amazon. They could still do the weekly release and ensure there's a tie in for the movies still running.
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Oct 29, 2014 23:28
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imperialparadox posted:I'd be surprised. Coulson views his team as a little family, and Ward betrayed his family. I can't really buy that happening. I think there was at least some ambiguity with coulson looking at wards folder just before the escape. I'm not sure I buy that he engineered the escape from custody, but if they for example say that coulson anticipated that it was a possibility, secretly implanted a tracker in ward and then waited to see what ward would do (as a test of his sincerity in claiming to be on their side again), I wouldnt think it came from nowhere either.
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A dude posted:But yeah, I was mostly just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Wards escape(if not the particulars) was a plan by those two. imperialparadox posted:I'd be surprised. Coulson views his team as a little family, and Ward betrayed his family. I can't really buy that happening. Coulson didn't make plans with Ward; if it was up to him, he'd nutpunch Ward so hard his balls fly out his nose, then off him. But still, maybe Coulson did intend for him to escape. A subdermal tracking device maybe?
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Honestly I'd be happy with any of these theories. I'd be happy if Ward's brother is a complete psycho. I'd be happy if Ward was a complete psycho. I'd be happy if Ward does the right thing and I'd be happy if he worked with Coulson.
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Windows 98 posted:Honestly I'd be happy with any of these theories. I'd be happy if Ward's brother is a complete psycho. I'd be happy if Ward was a complete psycho. I'd be happy if Ward does the right thing and I'd be happy if he worked with Coulson. Now I want well brother to show up and be completely normal and well adjusted.
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Oct 30, 2014 00:30
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Ward's really reminding me of Dennis Reynolds right now for some reason. I hope he goes undercover as a woman, is applying lipstick in the mirror, still has a full beard, and is saying "You'll see Coulson, I haven't even begun to peak. And when I do peak, you'll know. Because I'm gonna peak so hard everyone in Midgard will feel it."
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Oct 30, 2014 00:32
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Teek posted:If they decide to remove it from ABC, I wonder if Disney would be willing to work a Netflix-type deal with future seasons of Peggy Carter/SHIELD with someone like Amazon. They could still do the weekly release and ensure there's a tie in for the movies still running. Last I checked, Disney still had their own broadcast network. The only reason ABC is even a necessary part of the equation is presumably to grab a wider audience than what cable would provide.
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Oct 30, 2014 00:55
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Timby posted:That "This is a disaster / no, it's an origin story" line in the pilot just loving broke me. Yeah but that's a self aware line from the nerd character.
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Oct 30, 2014 01:02
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 In case anyone in Canada, or other parts of the world, still haven't seen it, this is the Age Of Ultron teaser that was shown near the end of last night's episode.
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Oct 30, 2014 01:29
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The movement of the hammer is really subtle on a small screen. I imagine in theatres it'll be more obvious that's what's happening. Also marks the second Avengers movie in a row where Hemsworth's big moment seems to be emoting to a hammer. (The beat where it won't just fly to him, and he doubts himself in the first movie is great)
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Oct 30, 2014 01:43
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I'm pretty certain Coulson intended for him to escape, otherwise they would have secured him with more than just standard handcuffs. It remains to be seen if it was planned with Ward. It has also not been shown that he killed any of the guards.
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EricFate posted:Last I checked, Disney still had their own broadcast network. The only reason ABC is even a necessary part of the equation is presumably to grab a wider audience than what cable would provide. Disney have several broadcast networks. ABC is one of them. If Disney want shield to carry on it carries on. The MCU is such a money spinner they'd be crazy cancelling it. When will we get a SHIELD infinity play set?
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Now I want well brother to show up and be completely normal and well adjusted. That's a given, surely? I'm amazed at how much better this show has gotten. Also James Spader as Ultron is hilarious. Almost every casting choice they've gone with in the Marvel movies have been superb (Jeremy Renner doesn't seem like a great hawkguy to me but there's still time).
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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I think that the idea that Coulson is working with Ward or intended for him to escape is completely insane.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Now I want well brother to show up and be completely normal and well adjusted. "Neither of them did anything to me. They just kept making up worse and worse stories to get the other one in trouble."
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Now I want well brother to show up and be completely normal and well adjusted. I'd be more interested if the third brother's name was Terrance
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Teek posted:If they decide to remove it from ABC, I wonder if Disney would be willing to work a Netflix-type deal with future seasons of Peggy Carter/SHIELD with someone like Amazon. They could still do the weekly release and ensure there's a tie in for the movies still running. Disney worked a massive deal with Netflix that will have a ton of its movies and shows on their service, plus five exclusive Marvel series. If Disney pulls AoS off of ABC (because they can make more money in the time slot with something else) then it will likely end up on Netflix if they are going to bother keeping up with it at all.
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Bruceski posted:"Neither of them did anything to me. They just kept making up worse and worse stories to get the other one in trouble." That's a plot twist I can get behind.
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Some gifs from the episode:     Hunter and Bobbi are the best.   I thought it was some neat cinematography to have the back of the chair be framed as bars for Ward's cell.  Ward's "Oh poo poo" face is fantastic.  Sad that they didn't go for Total Elimination.       
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The guy playing Hunter has the full Mortal Kombat sweep going there.
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Bobbi's towel flick and 180 beat down have quite the safety distance for the stunt people!
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Lady Galaga posted:Bobbi's towel flick and 180 beat down have quite the safety distance for the stunt people! She trained under Luke Skywalker!
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The end of the scene was Ward grabbing a gun, pointing it, and a gunshot sound. Unless it gets revealed he shot the lock on the truck or something, that would be a dumb thing to have as a fakeout. I'm gonna assume they stuck a tracking device up his rear end or something long ago since him escaping isn't the least plausible thing to happen to them in any given week. Phil heading down to deliver the final "gently caress you, you'll never be one of us again" might've been meant to goad him into escaping, since he's likely to lead them to SOMETHING they want to blow up.
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While the double shot was the funniest move, I was pretty impressed by Hunter breaking that HYDRA gal's jump kick with a chair. It felt very "Yeah, sorry babe, I ain't got time for that poo poo. Eat chair."
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Javid posted:The end of the scene was Ward grabbing a gun, pointing it, and a gunshot sound. Unless it gets revealed he shot the lock on the truck or something, that would be a dumb thing to have as a fakeout. He fired the bullet back in time to kill the dog.
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Oct 30, 2014 05:38
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For some reason I really like the stuntwork here with the guy hitting the ground hard. It really sells May's kick as devastating.
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imperialparadox posted:I'd be surprised. Coulson views his team as a little family, and Ward betrayed his family. I can't really buy that happening. Part of the reason I believe Ward is that he was very loyal to Garret. And he's also been very loyal to Skye. And now, in his own twisted way, he regrets that conflict of loyalty. It doesn't mesh up with the older Ward's description of him at all. Again, I think Ward is definitely a villain or sorts yet and is a bad guy, but in this particular case, I think he's probably 100% accurate. ED: Also Garret and Ward's discussion about his family before he got broke out of jail. I will be shocked if it turns out younger Ward is the one lying here.
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I watched a cherry picked list of episodes from S1 and just caught up to all of S2. Pretty good show! I'm happy Talbot seems to finally be cooperating.
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Just like the Hydra variant at the end of "Turn, Turn, Turn", I like when they manipulate the logo to fit the theme of the episode. The Yellow Ant posted:She trained under Luke Skywalker! Makes sense, since she is a Star Wars fan. 
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Zaggitz posted:I watched a cherry picked list of episodes from S1 and just caught up to all of S2. Pretty good show! I'm happy Talbot seems to finally be cooperating. I've been thinking about giving this another try, but don't know if I can stand a whole season as bad as the first 2-3 episodes - what's this cherry picked list of episodes?
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