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Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Paul MaudDib posted:

You don't know the half of it.

I pair it with the Gibus, Mercenary, Machina, and Danger Shield. Taunt-Every-Kill F2P sniper. Bodyshots only naturally.

Pussy. I do the same but replacing the machina with my strange specialized killstreak sydney sleeper. Nothing pisses people off more than the sleeper.

Edit: The sleeper is named "Skill"

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Jusupov
May 24, 2007
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no bodyshots please

Actual pubbie tonight.

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


Fossilized Rappy posted:


As long as these Halloween events let me continue to make abominations against man and God, I'm content.

I will send my condolences to your kangaroo wife!

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Jusupov posted:

no bodyshots please

Actual pubbie tonight.

If someone actually said that to me my sole mission would become body shotting them and nothing else. Plus I'd try to get teammates to do it too.

I mean really they're basically begging for it at that point.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
Look at these fuckin amateurs with their "freeze cam taunts" or whatever.

:smug:

Prenton
Feb 17, 2011

Ner nerr-nerrr ner
I don't understand how they've managed to make this so dull and boring.

Pickle dicker
May 25, 2014

by XyloJW

IronicDongz posted:

there's a person who lives on planet earth who does not like "HEAVY IS COMING TO LAY EGGS IN YOUR MOUTH" :smith:

"The secret to pony magic: bullets :manning:"

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
The Larval Lid is the best item in the game and I'll fight anyone who disagrees with that(it's definitely the most adorable item in my opinion)

Petiso
Apr 30, 2012



I'm getting the VAC error too, I wonder what's up.

By the way, if there's anyone still struggling with the achievements I'll let you know that the "Hat trick" one (score 3 times in the soccer minigame) counts when you score in your own goal as well :devil:

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

If anyone is still struggling with the achievements you can use the Steam Achievement Manager to unlock them and get your second cauldron + hammer :angel:

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

oddium posted:

If anyone is still struggling with the achievements you can use the Steam Achievement Manager to unlock them and get your second cauldron + hammer :angel:

Do not talk about the devil's power in this thread.

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

Um excuse me I am extremely honorable and holy, as indicated by the Cheater's Lament I was eventually awarded despite losing my first two hats for idling externally. There is no dishonor in SAM

El Burbo
Oct 10, 2012

I used SAM. I regret nothing.

Telarra
Oct 9, 2012

You haters are missing out on a great Halloween this year. :colbert:

rednecked_crake
Mar 17, 2012

srsly who wants to play this lamer?
Demoman takes skill.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

HoboWithAShotgun posted:

Demoman takes skill.

I was trying to teach a friend Demoman and his reaction to doing well was "well that doesn't count, of course I'm going to do well if they just run on top of my obvious traps!"

Yes. Yes you do. :allears:

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Well within a few hours I got all of the achievements I needed to get items from this year's Halloween map, so I'll probably not play it for awhile.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

FlamingLiberal posted:

Well within a few hours I got all of the achievements I needed to get items from this year's Halloween map, so I'll probably not play it for awhile.

Play lakeside or helltower instead. Those are the best two.

Ditocoaf
Jun 1, 2011

I played Helltower for the first time last night. WOW, that's so much more fun than this year's offering. It feels like it had the same amount of effort put into it as doomsday_event, but somehow it works so much better.

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

Helltower is sweet because so many of the changes actually address what's wrong with Hightower. Removing the backslide on the ramp helps make sure you actually reach a conclusion. The spells give some good options for busting sentries or heavymedic combos. The Witching Hour makes a metagame around gathering enough firepower to push up the final stretch (e.g. unless your team is just wildly outclassing the other, you usually need Monoculus cover to drive up the tower.)

Most of the stuff added to Doomsday doesn't fix any of its problems, and the spell summon actually makes sentries even more of a problem.

I felt like Harvest_Event and Helltower did a lot to rehabilitate those maps and add cool extra strategic dimensions. With Doomsday, I'm left wondering if Valve even understands what's wrong with the map.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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RPATDO_LAMD posted:

Play lakeside or helltower instead. Those are the best two.
I have been for awhile...I'm still going to visit those maps to get more items.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Nehru the Damaja posted:

Helltower is sweet because so many of the changes actually address what's wrong with Hightower. Removing the backslide on the ramp helps make sure you actually reach a conclusion. The spells give some good options for busting sentries or heavymedic combos. The Witching Hour makes a metagame around gathering enough firepower to push up the final stretch (e.g. unless your team is just wildly outclassing the other, you usually need Monoculus cover to drive up the tower.)

Most of the stuff added to Doomsday doesn't fix any of its problems, and the spell summon actually makes sentries even more of a problem.

I felt like Harvest_Event and Helltower did a lot to rehabilitate those maps and add cool extra strategic dimensions. With Doomsday, I'm left wondering if Valve even understands what's wrong with the map.

Helltower would have been great if it dropped the arena section, or the tower part mattered in the slightest (also if they tweaked respawns because everyone is more lethal and looked at Sniper sight lines around some of the goofier high jump/teleport areas, but that's nitpicking). Then they took all the worst parts of that and made this year.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Sometimes I wonder how some of y'all ever liked any Halloween update.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Nehru the Damaja posted:

Helltower is sweet because so many of the changes actually address what's wrong with Hightower. Removing the backslide on the ramp helps make sure you actually reach a conclusion. The spells give some good options for busting sentries or heavymedic combos. The Witching Hour makes a metagame around gathering enough firepower to push up the final stretch (e.g. unless your team is just wildly outclassing the other, you usually need Monoculus cover to drive up the tower.)

Most of the stuff added to Doomsday doesn't fix any of its problems, and the spell summon actually makes sentries even more of a problem.

I felt like Harvest_Event and Helltower did a lot to rehabilitate those maps and add cool extra strategic dimensions. With Doomsday, I'm left wondering if Valve even understands what's wrong with the map.

The respawn timer on the tickets does feel like it's shorter than on regular Doomsday, which is definitely an improvement. The underwater curse would also do a lot to fix the sentry problem since it lets you swim up and shoot down on sentries on the point, if it wasn't for the fact that the curse setup gives sentries a chance to mow down an entire team.

Holepunchio
May 31, 2011

Fojar38 posted:

Sometimes I wonder how some of y'all ever liked any Halloween update.
Not playing doomsday helps considerably.

That and every single Merasmus spell teleports everyone to the middle where in Lakeside it was just the one. No idea why they thought that was a good change.

IncendiaC
Sep 25, 2011
The last 3 scream fortress maps (viaduct_event, lakeside_event, Helltower) were amazing, mostly because hightower and KOTH maps in general are naturally good deathmatchy maps. Add in all the random bosses, Wheel mods, and player spells and you've got a fantastic map for casual goofing off. Sure, the maps get ruined by sentries too but they're not as annoying to deal with.

I'd put this year's map on par with the Mann Manor map (items are another matter but I don't care about those). It's not the worst event ever IMO, but I think a lot of people were especially disappointed this year since it feels like a 'step back' from Helltower.

pisshead
Oct 24, 2007

Ditocoaf posted:

I played Helltower for the first time last night. WOW, that's so much more fun than this year's offering. It feels like it had the same amount of effort put into it as doomsday_event, but somehow it works so much better.

Helltower works because it's a fun map people like playing on anyways. Valve obviously wanted to bring back doomsday, not realising that there's a reason people don't play it.

Magypsy
Apr 2, 2010

People call me Pine! (Pine!)
Eastern Venus Space Police.
If there's slime, (There's slime!)
Involved in a crime, (Bad crime!)
We'll clean them up on the beat! (The beat!)
They obviously heard that people wanted them to do more with Special Delivery and brought back the only map instead of making a new, actually fun one. :v:

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


I'm not even sure how a non-doomsday Special Delivery map would work. And http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/cats/7406 doesn't give me much hope, either!

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

I don't like the new map because it pulls you away from playing the actual game too much. It feels like every other minute you're in a third-person melee only mode, and the rounds end very quickly sending you into the bumper car mode that lasts forever.

It was a fun gimmick at first, but now I just play the other maps.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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I thought they patched out spells occurring during the bumper car segments, but on at least two servers today I've already run into that happening with the underwater spell.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

It's kindof unbelievable that spells don't clear out stickies and disable sentries for a bit, that seems like such an obvious fix.

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

Oh yeah, I forgot that there's already code in the game for disabling sentries without destroying them. There's really no excuse.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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Fojar38 posted:

Sometimes I wonder how some of y'all ever liked any Halloween update.

not playing on an egregiously lovely map tends to help. it's almost like there's commonly accepted opinions on things!!

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

Otacon posted:

I'm not even sure how a non-doomsday Special Delivery map would work. And http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/cats/7406 doesn't give me much hope, either!

I checked out sd_badwater and Badwater without the cart track is like stumbling through a familiar place in a nightmare

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

oddium posted:

I checked out sd_badwater and Badwater without the cart track is like stumbling through a familiar place in a nightmare

Actually, now I want to try Doomsday but with a cart. Replace the rocket with, say, the spire from Badlands. In fact, replace whole chunks of it with the spire from Badlands...what if there was a map that was just five copies of the spire from Badlands, arranged in a wagon wheel around a giant version of the spire from Badlands, and it's the Process gametype. Call it Badspires (Spireland is a little on the nose). Not even kidding I'd play the poo poo out of that.

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

What if sd_doomsday was koth_doomsday with the spire from Badlands

Ditocoaf
Jun 1, 2011

I'm sure we all know this deep down, but I'm gonna state it clearly: the greatness of the spire is inexorably coupled with its context in Badlands. You can't take it out of its surrounding landscape, plop it down somewhere else, and expect it to be even half as fun. It needs that balcony nearby, which needs the general structure of the base feeding into it. You can't understate the importance of its position relative to the choke point, or the bridge which is flanked by the other route, or the yard (which is where great scout deathmatches live), or the ramp. (I'm sure I'm getting the unofficial-official names of some of these locations wrong, but you know what I mean.)

Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Nov 1, 2014

Jusupov
May 24, 2007
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drat that's 3 times now that joining helltower mid-hell has caused any gifts to either not spawn or if they do spawn they have nothing inside. You can't see if the map is on hell before joining a team and you can't spawn after you've joined one :(

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FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Jusupov posted:

drat that's 3 times now that joining helltower mid-hell has caused any gifts to either not spawn or if they do spawn they have nothing inside. You can't see if the map is on hell before joining a team and you can't spawn after you've joined one :(
Yeah that happened to be twice.

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