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Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

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fenix down
Jan 12, 2005

The Shortest Path posted:

Wow. That's even worse and somehow more depressing than what I thought happened.

The "FC hosed them and ended up with two castles" thing came from a friend who has a friend in Sugoi, though, so I'm not surprised it's kind of entirely wrong.

Definitely glad I wasn't there for any of that, though. Now I probably don't even want to start playing again.
FC doesn't exactly have much competition.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

The Shortest Path posted:

Now I probably don't even want to start playing again.

If there is a good time to play Archeage with goons it's probably now. I went pirate which is fun but everyone who is still in Goon Squad has said it's got a lot better since the splinter just by virtue of the people who splintered being gone.

DarkStryke
Jun 7, 2006

The Shortest Path posted:

Wow. That's even worse and somehow more depressing than what I thought happened.

The "FC hosed them and ended up with two castles" thing came from a friend who has a friend in Sugoi, though, so I'm not surprised it's kind of entirely wrong.

Definitely glad I wasn't there for any of that, though. Now I probably don't even want to start playing again.

It's pretty much standard for goons in many MMO's; the cliques that migrate from game to game all attempt to be kings of the castle "because it worked so well last time", and it all ends up going to poo poo.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
The shadow council never had such issues.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




The Shortest Path posted:

Wow. That's even worse and somehow more depressing than what I thought happened.

The "FC hosed them and ended up with two castles" thing came from a friend who has a friend in Sugoi, though, so I'm not surprised it's kind of entirely wrong.

Definitely glad I wasn't there for any of that, though. Now I probably don't even want to start playing again.


There was some atrocious bitter drama for a few days, but everything seems good now. We're splintered all to hell and will never be a Political Force in this game (at least not in the near future) but that means we don't have to gently caress around with diplomacy at all. I think we still have the freedich deal with FC for running tradepacks, but that seems to be about it.

If you are in a guild with "goon" in the name, then you are KOS at all fishing holes, so goons that love to fish have all left. No more fishing drama. Not having a goon castle means we don't need a guild bank or to channel anything to anyone, so no more drama about guild finances.

We don't have huge numbers, but even with the splintering Goon Squad still has 75 people logged in right this minute. There are things going on. Some people are pirating. Some people are doing thing in Auroria. Some people are griping about Hasla. Some people are off doing their own thing. No stress anymore, just do what you want, whatever is fun for you.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




DirtyFalcon posted:

Iceland is actually a pretty neat place. Some of the clearest water in the world.




I found some of your stone bricks ^^

Please send me the stone bricks. I need them for a thing.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Angela Christine posted:

Please send me the stone bricks. I need them for a thing.

he can probably provide them to you in chum, which you could then transfer back to stone bricks

Antaris
Feb 18, 2011

The story about what happened gets more and more distorted from both parties, every time someone retells it. There needs to be some nazis or dinosaurs in it next time. Why can't people just play video games and have fun doing it? :smith:

Antaris fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Nov 6, 2014

Arcade
Sep 10, 2007

30.5 Days posted:

robbing people who are fishing is just as effective at making money as fishing yourself and is also cheaper,

Just pointing out that this is very very wrong. Maybe if you have a lot of fishing boats, and are constantly running into fishing fleets. But when pirating, most just stick to using clippers, merchants, or cutters. You also have to hope you catch them at the right time, with a full hold. It's often a short trip back to safe waters as well. Pirating is fun, but it's far from profitable. If you do it with a small enough group, it may work out better money wise, but going out with a 20-50 people, you'd do better just going to Freedich or searching out popular trade routes at opportune times. It's also why goons are still running around in quest/gha gear without buffs and getting crushed when fighting people with fish on their backs. I can make the same kind of money as they're making by running a Solzreed pack by clipper to Dewstone, ffs.

Arcade fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Nov 6, 2014

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Tairon posted:

The story about what happened gets more and more distorted from both parties, every time someone retells it. There needs to be some nazis or dinosaurs in it next time. Why can't people just play video games and have fun doing it? :smith:

whats distorted about what 30.5 days said

Antaris
Feb 18, 2011

Eonwe posted:

whats distorted about what 30.5 days said

The part about why Glug, PrepH and others quit. Jerkjerk reinvited everyone who wanted an invite. He then kicked Arrg specifically. Not questioning his reasons for doing so, since I don't know/didn't pay attention to the whole story. PrepH asked why, over the span of several hours and then left eventually. Grithok confirmed that Arrg was not coming back so the remainder of that family left. I don't know if that stance changed since then and it doesn't matter to me but claiming people left and hosed over the guild because they were "impatient" is dishonest. The part about taking the guild bank is understandably lovely though and is reason enough, no reason to make up further character flaws on top of that.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
Arrg had the option to come back, I told him about it, he said no. This was like right after he got kicked.

Arcade
Sep 10, 2007

Third World Reggin posted:

Arrg had the option to come back, I told him about it, he said no. This was like right after he got kicked.

I imagine he was pissed after coming into channel and asking jerkjerk repeatedly why he was kicked and was ignored (he was apparently muted).

Antaris
Feb 18, 2011

I remember you said it was not happening shortly after he was kicked and that whole drama started. If there was an offer to come back afterwards, then I stand corrected and misinformed. My bad.

LegionAreI
Nov 14, 2006
Lurk
Have an art that was posted in IRC. I think we can all appreciate this, fishers or non-fishers!

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
I was going to make dickbutt but since I am level 1, I have no money. No one would mail me seeds.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



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Third World Reggin posted:

I was going to make dickbutt but since I am level 1, I have no money. No one would mail me seeds.

i can send you like 50 gold if you want

Bait and Swatch
Sep 5, 2012

Join me, Comrades
In the Star Citizen D&D thread
So I will be very surprised if there is ever a seige in this game. The seige system seems similar to Global Agenda's AVA in that the guilds who own castles can just funnel money to an alt guild and buy-out their own bid to avoid the threat of losing. This is even easier since they make extra money off castle taxes, but hilarious in that they won't even lose gold once they "beat" their alt guild, since the pot goes to the victor.

I guess it continues the libertarian utopia theme, so there's that. I'm looking forward to the pubby anger that will flow once they realize they will be screwed out of a castle yet again. Valor#1

Deutsch Nozzle
Mar 29, 2008

#1 Macklemore fan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wes3XFIt1Is

Atown
Aug 10, 2011

Rip Goonfleet

ragnoxiii
Aug 24, 2006

Bait and Swatch posted:

So I will be very surprised if there is ever a seige in this game. The seige system seems similar to Global Agenda's AVA in that the guilds who own castles can just funnel money to an alt guild and buy-out their own bid to avoid the threat of losing. This is even easier since they make extra money off castle taxes, but hilarious in that they won't even lose gold once they "beat" their alt guild, since the pot goes to the victor.

I guess it continues the libertarian utopia theme, so there's that. I'm looking forward to the pubby anger that will flow once they realize they will be screwed out of a castle yet again. Valor#1

No, we were told we will not be buying our own siege tickets and to get ready in six weeks for FC, unless of course Valor really really wants a shot at us or something.

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



Third World Reggin posted:

Arrg had the option to come back, I told him about it, he said no. This was like right after he got kicked.

Arcade posted:

I imagine he was pissed after coming into channel and asking jerkjerk repeatedly why he was kicked and was ignored (he was apparently muted).

Yeah, jerkjerk was a huge rear end about the whole thing, kicking me without warning, and ignoring me both in game and on mumble about it. 3WR found out why I was kicked, and offered to let me back in, but gently caress being in a guild where it's kick first be a douche about it later and the second in command has to clean up your poo poo.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The SOP seems to be kick first then figure it out unless you bang minors. It's happened to many people before you and its another reason why its a poo poo guild and will remain so without gutting the leadership. Splintering was the best thing to happen for everyone that left.

Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Nov 6, 2014

Ran Mad Dog
Aug 15, 2006
Algeapea and noodles - I will take your udon!
Not being a racist rear end in a top hat or a scumbag cheater helps in not getting kicked from guilds I hear.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ran Mad Dog posted:

Not being a racist rear end in a top hat or a scumbag cheater helps in not getting kicked from guilds I hear.

wow uncalled for, i havent cheated in a week. Im still a racist tho

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


Fauxtool posted:

its another reason why its a poo poo guild and will remain so without gutting the leadership

whats even left to gut at this point, jeez

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.

Ran Mad Dog posted:

Not being a racist rear end in a top hat or a scumbag cheater helps in not getting kicked from guilds I hear.

You know the racist thing I understand but people seem to get awfully butthurt over other people cheating. Personally I liked the bots and cheaters in this game mostly they bought the poo poo I sold and sold the poo poo I bought, kept APEX and labor potions down.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Flavahbeast posted:

whats even left to gut at this point, jeez

The track record has shown them to be willfully corrupt and incompetent to the core. Anyone who was trying to do it right was not in any real position of power if they could still be kicked. At this point the name itself is poison and isnt salvageable. Lots of splinters in an alliance is best for everyone.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Morglon posted:

You know the racist thing I understand but people seem to get awfully butthurt over other people cheating. Personally I liked the bots and cheaters in this game mostly they bought the poo poo I sold and sold the poo poo I bought, kept APEX and labor potions down.

Its about devaluing their hard work. It pains people to feel like their effort towards being good at something can be trumped by someone not even trying. A real pro gamerz wants to win by the largest margin and will use every advantage they can get away with.
"Wow this guy easily made 1000g in one hour that it took me a month of daily playing to make, gently caress that dude."
Its a perfectly reasonable but futile reaction.

The most fun I ever had was hacking in BF3 because the hacks were out of control and it became a hacking arms race as the different cheat packages escalated the absurdity. It ended with a tool that just kicked people you killed.

Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Nov 6, 2014

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


Fauxtool posted:

At this point the name itself is poison and isnt salvageable

im pretty sure that's been the state of <Goon Squad> for like, over a decade now

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Fauxtool posted:

The track record has shown them to be willfully corrupt and incompetent to the core. Anyone who was trying to do it right was not in any real position of power if they could still be kicked. At this point the name itself is poison and isnt salvageable. Lots of splinters in an alliance is best for everyone.

Didn't the splinter involve all of the old leaders leaving? It sounds like everyone is having fun with jerkjerk and reggin.

And oh no, pubbies in an mmo don't like goons. Whatever will we do.

Ran Mad Dog
Aug 15, 2006
Algeapea and noodles - I will take your udon!

Fauxtool posted:

Its about devaluing their hard work. It pains people to feel like their effort towards being good at something can be trumped by someone not even trying. A real pro gamerz wants to win by the largest margin and will use every advantage they can get away with.
"Wow this guy easily made 1000g in one hour that it took me a month of daily playing to make, gently caress that dude."
Its a perfectly reasonable but futile reaction.

The most fun I ever had was hacking in BF3 because the hacks were out of control and it became a hacking arms race as the different cheat packages escalated the absurdity. It ended with a tool that just kicked people you killed.

:qqsay:I can't cheat in online games without consequences:qqsay:

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ran Mad Dog posted:

:qqsay:I can't cheat in online games without consequences:qqsay:

my 50 is still unbanned and I made several thousand US dollars, :qqsay:

Ran Mad Dog
Aug 15, 2006
Algeapea and noodles - I will take your udon!

Fauxtool posted:

my 50 is still unbanned and I made several thousand US dollars, :qqsay:

Funny thing is, you didn't even get kicked from the guild for cheating, but for admitting to jerking off daily to anime kiddie porn and than "sharing" your collection with everyone.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ran Mad Dog posted:

Funny thing is, you didn't even get kicked from the guild for cheating, but for admitting to jerking off daily to anime kiddie porn and than "sharing" your collection with everyone.

thats exactly what happened, I was that person and imp zone can corroborate the story

im not actually still in GS

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005

:siren: ANIME KIDDIE PORN!! :siren:

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

fenix down posted:

:siren: ANIME KIDDIE PORN!! :siren:

2 of those words are redundant when used in the context of "anime" btw. It's pretty much all porn and no one is of legal age in anime.
Its okay because she's actually a 9000 year old Icelandic witch. She just has sex in a body that looks 16

these are the 2 images that got me banned.
:siren: WARNING NSFW :siren:
Do Not Click at Work or YOU WILL BE FIRED
http://i.imgur.com/3J4ZGvg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ocDyZM1.gif

brb gonna commit a victimless crime (jackin' it to anime)

Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Nov 6, 2014

Mr. Owl
Jan 24, 2008
Just used a bunch of charcoal that I'd set aside to make a piano, plopped it down in my house and started playing the hawaii 5-0 theme. One of my neighbors who had been tending to his farm started freaking out about someone playing "bad piano" and ran inside my house and started jumping up and down on it as I played. I gave him a short concert, then did the mature thing and shut the door with him inside and logged out. I'd say it was a worthwhile investment.

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Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
Someone asked me to find an old quote in one of the AA threads, and I couldn't, but instead I found this.

Please enjoy.

HyC posted:

Which will come first? One of the "main crafters" quitting/leaving the guild with everything or 90 day patron status.

Eonwe posted:

This one could turn out pretty good. The two planetside 2 outfits run by Goons have been successful, and obviously EVE. Whoever ends up leading AA mostly needs to stay active and come up with poo poo to do. The main reason I've seen goon guilds break up is because everyone is bored or there is dumb drama.

Early September was such a magical time.

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