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Sickening posted:You really are certifiably insane.
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bhsman posted:Since when is it still funny if it refers to rape, sexual abuse, etc.? What the gently caress is wrong with you? That's what the term initially meant, but it's kind of been co-opted by tumblr to refer to literally anything you find objectionable in any way, which is presumably the usage he's mocking.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:26
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a dozen swans posted:What do you all play, and why? Legacy I played Reanimator, Stoneblade, Dredge, Nic Fit, Goblins, and Omnitell. Modern I played UWR, 4 colour Gifts and Pod. My brother in law started playing well before I did and had a big collection of old duals and stuff, so I bought whatever cards I could afford (on a student budget and all :v) to complement the cards he had. Reanimator was the first thing I built (turned out the deck was mostly kinda cheap after you take Forces, Fetches, and Seas out of the equation), and generally I'd go look at starcity to see decks that placed, whether or not he or I had a lot of cards for it and get the rest from there. He let me know last week he's selling his collection though, so that number's probably getting pared down by a lot since there's no way in hell I can afford duals. 
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Nov 6, 2014 22:29
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Ableist Kinkshamer posted:That's what the term initially meant, but it's kind of been co-opted by tumblr to refer to literally anything you find objectionable in any way, which is presumably the usage he's mocking. Yeah and I can even see that argument, but if you want folks to look charitably and in good spirits on your usage of it as a joke, the time to do so probably isn't when you're trying to shut down the mention of legitimate issues in the MTG community.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:31
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Zoness posted:Dredge because Dread Return is the single best magic card ever made. I play vintage goblins because I cracked a lotus and the next most expensive cards were food chain, two moxen and a grip of wastelands. Creature based combo that turns dudes sideways is the coolest. I might branch out into legacy goblins but the deck is a little underpowered in that format.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:33
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Lancelot posted:Um, the very second example given there is about rape. The first one is about racism. Which one where you making a joke about? Its like you read only what you wanted to read and totally ignored the rest. Equilibrium posted:If you don't double sleeve, Ultra Pros are the best. Best seal, best shuffle, and the most consistent cut. Some of them will split but whatever, they're cheap, just replace the bad ones. That mass drop is a good deal but if you prefer the clears you can get 200 for $10 on Amazon. I have been wanting to try something new out because I need new sleeves. My biggest issue is that especially in standard I have decks that share cards between them and its usually so much easier to do when they are all in the same sleeves but expensive as gently caress to keep everything in the same sleeves if I want to change. JerryLee posted:Yeah and I can even see that argument, but if you want folks to look charitably and in good spirits on your usage of it as a joke, the time to do so probably isn't when you're trying to shut down the mention of legitimate issues in the MTG community. If you can't mock someone for posting "Oh and you're ashamed of your gender because guys intrinsically have power and often want to pretend they don't while abusing it to the fullest" in a magic the gathering thread then I am ashamed of the states of things. Sickening fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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Nov 6, 2014 22:34
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TheKingofSprings posted:Legacy I played Reanimator, Stoneblade, Dredge, Nic Fit, Goblins, and Omnitell. Whats the gifts list you played? I've started grabbing pieces for a gifts deck thinking I might try one, U/W gifts tron being the most common one I see mentioned online.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:37
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a bunch of jerks posted:... So... how about that next set? What do you guys hope to see in it? The set's only going to have 1 Planeswalker. Will it be Ugin or will it be someone new? Or maybe it'll be a returning character with a new card? I want there to be a cycle of lands in the style of Murmuring Bosk but that might be a bit too strong for Wizard's intentions of Standard because Fetches. Unless they can only enter tapped. That might be OK. Maybe?
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Nov 6, 2014 22:38
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Cernunnos posted:
UR CHANDRA COME ON  Or maybe Bolas. I dunno. Ugin is probably going to be alive in Dragons which seems like the best place to put his walker card.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:42
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JerryLee posted:Yeah and I can even see that argument, but if you want folks to look charitably and in good spirits on your usage of it as a joke, the time to do so probably isn't when you're trying to shut down the mention of legitimate issues in the MTG community. Actually it's probably the perfect time because it effectively conveys the opinion that the people involved are being sanctimonious assholes engaging in a masturbatory political thread derailment rather than people who are genuinely interested in discussing a legitimate issue in good faith. You can question the validity of that opinion, but given that the response was to immediately begin shrieking about how the comment was disrespectful to rape victims and demanding that anyone who would voice such an offensive opinion justify themselves, I think the evidence points toward it having some degree of accuracy. You have no idea how badly I wanted to use the word "hysterical" repeatedly but trolling isn't going to help edit: a dozen swans posted:Okay, here's a question for the thread that isn't about misogyny: for those of you who play non-rotating formats, how did you end up playing the deck you play now? Was it the first deck you started with? Did you switch over time, possibly dramatically? What about it appealed to you? LGD fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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Nov 6, 2014 22:43
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Cernunnos posted:I want there to be a cycle of lands in the style of Murmuring Bosk but that might be a bit too strong for Wizard's intentions of Standard because Fetches. Unless they can only enter tapped. That might be OK. Maybe? I like Bosk, but Khans isn't having a strong tribal theme, outside of Dragons, so far, so I doubt we'll see the cycle this block. Next one maybe? And we'll still have fetches I presume. Count Bleck posted:Ugin is probably going to be alive in Dragons which seems like the best place to put his walker card. That seems the most likely outcome, although I can't help but feel that we'll be getting Ugin hype in Fate Reforged.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:44
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Cernunnos posted:... So... how about that next set? What do you guys hope to see in it? Failing that, the template for temur khan could lead to some really cool cards.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:45
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...What the gently caress did I just read?! You all are nuts, I tell you! On a weak attempt at getting this back on topic - I need some semi-serious and fun casual format to inflict upon my friends, since Commander and Modern are starting to grow a bit stale for me. Cube was fun, but it's surprisingly hard to find enough people at the store willing to draft. Maybe I'll give Type 4 another try, that was some fun insanity right there.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:45
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Whats the gifts list you played? I've started grabbing pieces for a gifts deck thinking I might try one, U/W gifts tron being the most common one I see mentioned online. https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=5176&d=229848&f=MO something like this list, the last time I played it was right before the Deathrite ban, I think it's still around, just switched Deathrite out for Birds.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:45
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I'm not trying to roll my eyes or pretend its unimportant. It's just such a waste of energy. If having a good community is something you care about please join us in the Judge Program http://apps.magicjudges.org/ It's not all rules and running tournaments, there is a big focus on improving the community, inclusivity has been a topic covered at every Judge conference I've been to. You don't have to pass any tests or need anything other than an interest in making a positive contribution to get started and start helping your local community be better in a lot of ways. Please don't waste your time arguing on a tiny corner of the internet.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:47
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Cernunnos posted:... So... how about that next set? What do you guys hope to see in it? We're getting a Bolas, if not in that set then before the end of this block and I'd  on that.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:47
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Picking up this conversation:Lottery of Babylon posted:When is that aspect of black reflected in the cards, though? Lottery of Babylon posted:What do black cards look like at common? Do they look like investors, or vampires? Madmarker posted:The Cabal is the closest thing to the whole mercantile thing. They were a money making organization, for the benefit of a god baby, that used demons, and dementia summoners, and just about anyone to make money through the "Pit Fights". The various Pit Fighters are all represented. You can see it on some onslaught/odyssey flavor text as well. Albeit minimally. Lancelot posted:I think it's the same deal as with red — they both have a "nice" side, but when you're depicting a battle between two all-powerful wizards, you tend to represent the more aggressive and powerful side of the colour. Representations of Black's interaction with commerce in the past three expert sets: C: Grey Merchant of Asphodel Treasure Cruise (as part of the Black clan, including their mechanic and watermark) Bane Alley Blackguard 5 creatures with Extort (see e.g. and particularly Syndic of Tithes) UC: Underworld Coinsmith Opulent Palace Cartel Aristocrat Bane Alley Broker Debt to the Deathless Profit // Loss Treasured Find Tavern Swindler 3 creatures with Extort (see e.g. and particularly Knight of Obligation) R: Villainous Wealth Alms Beast Soul Ransom 4 permanents with Extort (see e.g. and particularly Treasury Thrull) It's not overwhelming by any means, but it is a noticeable little subtheme, especially since they actually gave it its own mechanic. On that note, the Orzhov are a very good demonstration of Black's concern with wealth, probably better than the Cabal. Like Red being the colour of artistry, creativity, and love, there's only so much you can represent it in the fighty-cards-game, but they are making an effort to do so. It's quite verifiably more than just MaRo cursorily spouting off stuff to make Black seem deeper than assumed.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:51
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Count Bleck posted:UR CHANDRA COME ON I think they want to keep some of the main 'walkers mono colored just so they can have them be defining characters of that color. I'd be hugely surprised if we get a multicolor Chandra, Jace or Liliana any time soon. Then again they made GB Garruk and WR / WG Ajani, so who knows? I think everyone is expecting Ugin and Bolas planeswalker cards this block. The safe money's on Ugin, Bolas, and one or two random new characters like they like to throw in every block a la Domri / Tamiyo / Tibalt / Ashiok / Kiora / etc.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:51
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The thing is that Ajani is still the posterboy white walker. After having two multicolored cards. Chandra seems like a smart girl, she'll probably find a way to incorporate burn into blue. Mind Bomb as a - ability seems like a good start.
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Nov 6, 2014 22:55
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When we played in the 90s there wasn't decks like there are now per se, but I played a preacher/hell's caretaker/crown of the ages/control magic deck that basically stole your creatures and sacrificed them to bring my big creatures from the graveyard. It was basically reanimator before it was actually a thing. When I got back in right after scars of mirrodin I played legacy Affinity. Then moved over to legacy jund with RTR release. In modern I put together Martyr Proc and Meliera Pod. Now I just play Jund and commander. Although I am probably going to put together a home brew I call Mardu Gras for standard this time around to take a legacy break. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mardu-gras/ This is Mardu Gras. Errant Gin Monks fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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Nov 6, 2014 22:58
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Lancelot posted:Um, the very second example given there is about rape. The first one is about racism. Which one where you making a joke about? most likely he was making a joke involving the increasingly ridiculous ways that 'trigger' is being used by tumblr et al but sure let's all preen and show that "no, it is me that is the most against rape" re colorchat: i think the best way to use black as a good guy is to show it as representing death as the natural way of things. this was briefly touched upon in theros and is best represented by the golgari recently. you could definitely get some mileage out of the rest of the colors in a setting trying to overcome or subvert death at any cost and causing all sort of hosed up poo poo while black is all off smoking a bowl and going "yo we all gonna die eventually so why don't we just chill and enjoy ourselves till it comes" A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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Nov 6, 2014 23:03
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Sickening posted:I have always been burned on ultra pro, are the mattes actually useable? They have cheaper lines which I think is where they get most of their reputation from, but the Pro-Mat series is actually quite nice. My buddy uses them for his cube and after many sessions with tons of shuffling they still feel incredibly nice and I don't think a single one has split.
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Nov 6, 2014 23:06
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Errant Gin Monks posted:http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mardu-gras/ Why are you running Brave the Sands?
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Nov 6, 2014 23:07
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Entropic posted:I think everyone is expecting Ugin and Bolas planeswalker cards this block. The safe money's on Ugin, Bolas, and one or two random new characters like they like to throw in every block a la Domri / Tamiyo / Tibalt / Ashiok / Kiora / etc. If they do Ugin and Bolas in this block then there's only room for 1 new character since they want to stick to 5 Walkers per block.
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Nov 6, 2014 23:08
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I'm guessing just Ugin in Fate Reforged, then Bolas and Random McOtherguy in Dragons o' Tarkir.
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Nov 6, 2014 23:10
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I'd like to see them give U/W control some better tools in the next set, but without printing stupid cards like Supreme Verdict or Sphinx's Revelation. It's a tough line to walk. Bring back Deprive.
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Nov 6, 2014 23:12
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Entropic posted:Why are you running Brave the Sands? Vigilance block a bunch of stuff. It has done work for me in certain games and it counts as a non creature spell for the prowess guys.
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Nov 6, 2014 23:13
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Ableist Kinkshamer posted:That's what the term initially meant, but it's kind of been co-opted by tumblr to refer to literally anything you find objectionable in any way, which is presumably the usage he's mocking.
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Nov 6, 2014 23:14
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Entropic posted:I'm guessing just Ugin in Fate Reforged, then Bolas and Random McOtherguy in Dragons o' Tarkir. Could they do another Sarkhan, one that is sane and doesn't have voices in his head all the time? Has there ever been a walker that had two versions in one block?
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Nov 6, 2014 23:15
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Vigilance block a bunch of stuff. It has done work for me in certain games and it counts as a non creature spell for the prowess guys. If you just replaced them with removal spells you'd still be triggering prowess and wouldn't need to worry about blocking and would be getting more damage through. Equilibrium posted:I'd like to see them give U/W control some better tools in the next set, but without printing stupid cards like Supreme Verdict or Sphinx's Revelation. It's a tough line to walk. Bring back Deprive. A Wall of Omens or Spreading Seas reprint would go a long way.
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Nov 6, 2014 23:16
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Could they do another Sarkhan, one that is sane and doesn't have voices in his head all the time? Has there ever been a walker that had two versions in one block? Xenagos
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Nov 6, 2014 23:20
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Why are people so keen on Chandra becoming UR? We already have two UR walkers, one of which also has some burn in his arsenal, and Chandra's persistently and defiantly not-Blue whenever we see her. "Not everything has to make sense" is a pretty good way of declaring yourself unimpressed by that colour.
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Nov 6, 2014 23:21
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http://magic.wizards.com/en/content/magic-online-known-issues Wizards made a known issues list that they're going to update weekly. Related! How the gently caress did they break Carnophage?
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Nov 6, 2014 23:21
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Chorocojo posted:Related! How the gently caress did they break Carnophage? Turns out when you're competing with Microsoft and Amazon and poo poo the only programmers you can get that accept their pay half in cash, half in cheetohs are real bad and not good.
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Nov 6, 2014 23:23
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Sickening posted:I have always been burned on ultra pro, are the mattes actually useable? Nibble posted:They have cheaper lines which I think is where they get most of their reputation from, but the Pro-Mat series is actually quite nice. My buddy uses them for his cube and after many sessions with tons of shuffling they still feel incredibly nice and I don't think a single one has split. Pro Mattes are the best of Ultra Pro's sleeve offerings, but in my experience the level of quality is different depending on what color you get. I use the black ones for limited and can get maybe 3-4 months out of a set of 100 (I bring 50 sleeved lands with me) playing ~6 events per month before they start falling apart and/or become too gross with LGS goop and they're cheap enough for that not to be a big deal. I tried orange and some other color when my store was having a shortage on black and the orange ones were splitting day one and only lasted me like two weeks and the other color (neon green?) only lasted about a month. I vastly prefer KMC Hyper Mattes and will probably switch over to them for limited once I get around to buying a case of them from Potomac Distribution. I already use them with KMC Perfect Fits on all my constructed decks and they last forever without getting all marked up on the back. I think I've split 2 of them out of 2 100 card decks and 4 60 card decks and the really old ones clean up fairly nice once they get really grimy.
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Nov 6, 2014 23:23
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Chorocojo posted:Related! How the gently caress did they break Carnophage?
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Nov 6, 2014 23:23
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Turns out when you're competing with Microsoft and Amazon and poo poo the only programmers you can get that accept their pay half in cash, half in cheetohs are real bad and not good. It was working fine previously and it hasn't received errata since Sixth Edition! They literally had to NOT TOUCH IT. Did adding it to Vintage Masters somehow break it? I really wish I could see the backend of stuff and see how cards are individually handled. This is on the level of only the Modern Masters version of Blinding Beam being broken but not the Duel Decks or Mirrodin versions.
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Nov 6, 2014 23:27
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Entropic posted:I've stopped being surprised at the random poo poo they break in their updates. It has gotten bad lately though, I mean the Fate Spinner bug was basically reproduced twice recently?
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Nov 6, 2014 23:27
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Sickening posted:I have always been burned on ultra pro, are the mattes actually useable? They are better than the other ultra pros but still not as good KMC's imo. After I had 5 UPM's break at a ptq and a couple cards got damaged I'm never useing them again. KMC Mattes are the best. Lottery of Babylon posted:Ravnica's storyline in both cases was also "Dimir does dickish evil things that don't benefit them in any way just for the sake of being evil." For everyone like Sorin or Umezawa, there are several dozen like Liliana, black-Garruk, Bolas, Ob Nixilis, Griselbrand, Yawgmoth, Lazav, Szadek. And that's just looking at the big, named characters. What do black cards look like at common? Do they look like investors, or vampires? Wasn't Dimir's role in original ravnica defined by the guildpact as the ones trying to break the guildpact?
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"General | Blinding Beam can't be cast with entwine —fixed 11/5" WAIT, DID IT BREAK AGAIN? I wonder if that "Cancel acts like hitting OK" bug being fixed is what broke Carnophage. 
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