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jivjov posted:The tone is perfectly understandable...Ed/Nicalis sold a half-baked, buggy, untested game, and did so with promises that are turning out to be inaccurate. The game is not "half-baked" or untested and every piece of software in the world has bugs.
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Someone forgot that Intel Graphics still didn't support years old standards in the year of our lord two thousand ten. Probably forgot that Intel even does graphics because their first decent offering is barely 2 years old. Good luck getting someone to rewrite their graphics engine to accommodate one manufacturer's 4+ year old hardware in less than a week.
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Nov 8, 2014 09:17
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Read posted:The game is not "half-baked" or untested and every piece of software in the world has bugs. don't even bother engaging with jivjov, this is roughly the average quality of their posting
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Nov 8, 2014 09:18
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anyways I think that Proptosis+mom's knife may be even more powerful than polyphemus/mom's knife https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MukbxFaPfiE I'd love to get all three at once sometime.
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Nov 8, 2014 09:19
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Tollymain posted:don't even bother engaging with jivjov, this is roughly the average quality of their posting What, am I not entitled to being a bit upset when something I've paid money for straight up doesn't function, and even when it does, causes faults with other computer hardware?
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Nov 8, 2014 09:19
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The more I play Eve the more I like her. Sell all your hearts to the Devil -> Become Danger Mario -> Destroy everything.
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Nov 8, 2014 09:20
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IronicDongz posted:That's probably because they might genuinely not be able to fix it. And let's face it , overshooting the system requirements on obsolete hardware is pretty low on the Reynaud scale
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Nov 8, 2014 09:21
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Zeron posted:Honestly I think that as "reward" characters go, Eden is kind of lovely. You only get to play once every mom's heart kill, and while I'm sure you can get completely OP starting builds all I've gotten is complete poo poo so far. Like I'm sure that his stats can go above 1, but that's not something I've ever seen. I've felt obligated to play him every time I get a token but so far I'd rather have been playing anyone else. From what I remember of Ed's posts before-release, the token system is more to prevent scumming for OP starts than it is to act as a reward. I kind of agree though, I don't feel much impetus to play Eden other than to get unlocks. Rocketlex posted:The more I play Eve the more I like her. Sell all your hearts to the Devil -> Become Danger Mario -> Destroy everything. Yeah, Eve gets really good later... it's just that I loathe playing potentially multiple floors with 1 damage stat 
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Nov 8, 2014 09:23
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jivjov posted:What, am I not entitled to being a bit upset when something I've paid money for straight up doesn't function, and even when it does, causes faults with other computer hardware? Being this angry when it hasn't even been a week and the devs are quickly and actively hunting down those problems does make you sound entitled and oversensitive yes.
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Nov 8, 2014 09:23
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You can be annoyed, obviously, but acting as if the game was just shat out in an awful state is just not true. Basically just-dis astranagant posted:Someone forgot that Intel Graphics still didn't support years old standards in the year of our lord two thousand ten. Probably forgot that Intel even does graphics because their first decent offering is barely 2 years old. Good luck getting someone to rewrite their graphics engine to accommodate one manufacturer's 4+ year old hardware in less than a week.
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Nov 8, 2014 09:23
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Rocketlex posted:The more I play Eve the more I like her. Sell all your hearts to the Devil -> Become Danger Mario -> Destroy everything. she really does reward playing well, because if you're able to dodge fairly well you can safely sell every bit of yourself for cool demonic poo poo and also turn into a badass demon on top of that which lets you poo poo out damage
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Nov 8, 2014 09:24
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Read posted:From what I remember of Ed's posts before-release, the token system is more to prevent scumming for OP starts than it is to act as a reward. I kind of agree though, I don't feel much impetus to play Eden other than to get unlocks. Other ways to get Tokens would be nice. I'd pay 15 cents for one at a shop. Hell, I'd love to pay a heart to the Devil for one if I was playing as Eve. EDIT: Actually, what'd be rad is if you got an Eden Token for every...say...30 coins you put in a Donation box. That way you'd also have a more steady reward system for the box.
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Nov 8, 2014 09:25
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IronicDongz posted:That's probably because they might genuinely not be able to fix it. Exactly. They knew they were working with OpenGL 3, so they should've been able to guess that there might be troubles with older systems not supporting that. If they had simply put that in the system requirements and not make the promise that this game'd run on any system that could run the original, I wouldn't have had a reason to be angry. I'm very happy the devs are still working on it, but Tyrone is already coming back on their promises, and that is where the problem lies. The fact that you folks are going "haha I can play it, you're hosed, should've known to have a better system" isn't helping either. I understand that's easy to say for you. But first of all, lots of people are suffering from this issue, it isn't just me. And secondly, I'm not a game developer. If anything, they (i.e. Nicalis) should've known and warned us in advance, so I hadn't spent money on pre-release. Them not doing that, is where the main problem lies. By the way, some good news: a few people with OpenGL 3 are reporting the same white-out problem. This suggests that it's at least partially a programming problem, which can be solved more easily. Carbon dioxide fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Nov 8, 2014 |
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Nov 8, 2014 09:31
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Carbon dioxide posted:Exactly. They knew they were working with OpenGL 3, so they should've been able to guess that there might be troubles with older systems not supporting that. If they had simply put that in the system requirements and not make the promise that this game'd run on any system that could run the original, I wouldn't have had a reason to be angry. They thought the cutoff for hardware was going to be around 6 years, which is really going out of their way. They didn't account for one company's barely office grade offering pushing that forward a couple years in rare cases, or for people to still be trying to game with that piece of poo poo.
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Nov 8, 2014 09:35
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Why won't this game run on Windows 95?  The minimum requirements state 'Discreet Graphics Card.' You're complaining that the developers didn't catch the fact this game cannot run on certain configurations of literally ancient hardware and software interface standards. PC gaming has always been a bit 'buyer beware' because the possible hardware combinations are astronomical, and it's on the end-user to determine if they meet the specs. Like back in the day EB Games wouldn't even entertain a return request if your reasoning was 'Oh yeah my system doesn't meet the minimum requirements'. I get that you're upset, Carbon Dioxide. I know you wanted to play and enjoy the game and were possibly waiting forever for it. I'd be upset too. But stop acting like you were egregiously wronged or this was some conspiracy to gently caress the end-user, or that they deliberately released a buggy product. Try to get your refund. It sucks but there very well be nothing they can do to support an API standard from 2004-2006 that was completely superseded by 2008. PoizenJam fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Nov 8, 2014 |
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Nov 8, 2014 09:44
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Not to wade into drama or anything but I just got Lil Haunt and it is the most amazing upgrade ever. Hunting, damage AND fear!
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Nov 8, 2014 09:49
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Note that also the game has had as much as 65k concurrent players so what you might be seeing as "lots of people having these issues" is more likely just "a handful of really vocal people having the issue." e: oh, does it even list a dedicated graphics card as a minimum requirement? well, there goes your argument for "I wasn't warned before release!!"
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Nov 8, 2014 09:49
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To be fair, I won't actually get a refund. Technical issues aside, I bought this game because, well, I really like it. I'm still hoping for a fix. If that doesn't happen, I'm hoping I can afford to buy a new system some point next year. I've got some other games sitting in my library that won't run on this thing, anyway.
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Nov 8, 2014 09:52
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500 million dollar AAA titles have had way worse release bugs than this has. I still can't open Call of Duty: Ghosts I bought a year ago.
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Nov 8, 2014 09:56
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I'm on Steam and I just got a 2MB patch. Apparently a bunch of bugfixes: http://steamcommunity.com/app/250900/discussions/0/613941122666978458/ I didn't even know about the save game bug, that would be awful. edit: Oh this is 7 hours old? super-edit: The 1.01 patch actually caused my game to sit there and hang in the Steam launcher and never open, so if anyone reads this and has the same issue try restarting your computer because for some reason that worked for me! skull wall fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Nov 8, 2014 |
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Nov 8, 2014 09:58
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THERE IS A FIX. I'm going to update my larger post soon, but let me first post it here. This fix solves the 'white textures' problem for now. There is a working beta available, and I'll tell you here how to unlock it. As it is a beta, it's possible that the next full update will delete your save file, use at own risk! In Steam, right click on the game, and choose properties. Go to the 'betas' tab and enter the access code "whitetextures" (without the quote marks). It'll unlock the beta. Enable it in the same screen, close that screen, and wait a minute while the game gets updated. Carbon dioxide fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Nov 8, 2014 |
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Nov 8, 2014 09:59
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Read posted:Yeah, Eve gets really good later... it's just that I loathe playing potentially multiple floors with 1 damage stat Slam your face into the first enemy you see. Twice. Now you're all set for a proper Eve run.
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Carbon dioxide posted:THERE IS A FIX. Though SOME of the flack you're getting is somewhat deserved everybody should appreciate your effort in finding every scrap of info out there. Also: downplaying the ability of repairing something is vital in maintenance duty. You always must present the client with the most doomsday scenario possible so in the end they'll be somewhat better disposed. I usually enjoy saying someone they might have to change some 1000€ piece of equipment, changing a blown fuse and getting treated like a wizard Tafferling fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Nov 8, 2014 |
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Nov 8, 2014 10:14
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If anyone wants to try a run where you get epic fetus early, 9RE3 BY6R has it on the second floor treasure room which is one square to the right. Unlike the normal fetus, air strikes are seemingly stronger than before.
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Nov 8, 2014 10:22
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Goddamnit Super Greed. When I'm maxed out on cash because I got a dollar bill is exactly when I DON'T want to see you in a shop. Edit: I just got explosive thoughts in two rooms in a row. 
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Nov 8, 2014 10:36
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AbbadonOfHell posted:Anybody ever gotten the Black Candle with Cursed Eye? The text on Black Candle makes me think it might make the eye kinda cool... I really do like the burst fire of it. I just got black candle too.. what in the world does it do? "Curse immunity + evil". Not many 'curses' I can think of, and if it really does just make the extremely small number items with 'cursed' in the name or description work better that'd be pretty awful.
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Nov 8, 2014 10:58
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^^^^ Black candle makes you immune to 'Curse of the Blind, Curse of Darkness, Curse of the Labyrinth, etc' and increases your chance of devil deals. I think. Necropolis has some seriously assholish floors when you can't fly. The room with the 1-tile wide bridge that requires you to stop on a single tile between timed spikes can go gently caress itself. I bought the BFF item that makes larger (better?) familiars because I had a train of 6 followers. I don't know if the item helped in terms of damage, but the large followers all over the screen made it impossible to see and nearly lost me the run because of all the damage I'd take. The visual clutter is a massive detriment.
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Sanctum posted:^^^^ It also gives you a single sin-heart so if you've got the money and aren't trying to avoid sin, go ahead and grab it for the health.
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Nov 8, 2014 11:05
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So I got up to Isaac (barely beat him) thanks to the I AM ERROR room. Thing is, I haven't even unlocked It Lives yet so that shouldn't be possible.
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Testekill posted:So I got up to Isaac (barely beat him) thanks to the I AM ERROR room. Thing is, I haven't even unlocked It Lives yet so that shouldn't be possible. i killed isaac a couple of times before i even got It Lives it happens and is an accepted thing due to how the portals after beating the heart work
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Agent Kool-Aid posted:i killed isaac a couple of times before i even got It Lives Really? You can go to the Cathedral before unlocking It Lives? I've only ever had a trapdoor to Sheol appear.
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Nov 8, 2014 11:16
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So I found a crazy new room going down through one of those Zelda sidescrolling bits: Is this the new I AM ERROR, or something else?
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wyoming posted:So I found a crazy new room going down through one of those Zelda sidescrolling bits: I just found that room too. It was in a ladder down, only the secret room lead to a second secret room. Giant pile of items being sold for a single heart with key and devil beggers in the corner. And no, I AM ERROR is still in, I got it earlier today.
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wyoming posted:So I found a crazy new room going down through one of those Zelda sidescrolling bits: Just a fun new thing that shows up.
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Ok I unlocked Azazel... and proceeded to use the Bible and an army of spiders to get all the way to the end of Mom's Heart with barely a flinch. I love Azazel! There's no way to make his breath range increase, is there? strangemusic fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Nov 8, 2014 |
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Nov 8, 2014 11:46
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Careless play lead to having to fight ??? with Ipecac, Chocolate Milk and only one red heart and nothing else helpful. That was scary but taking my time and focusing on dodging and distance worked well. If you get that combo, don't be stupid like me and just indiscriminately shoot explosive tears everywhere at a high rate.
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jivjov posted:Well, I can actually run the game now...but I'm now getting the delightful "keyboard gets stuck on a single input forever" bug that persists even after the game is closed. I had this bug, apparently because my Logitech G110 keyboard didn't play nice with one of the settings. If you check the options config file in the binding of isaac folder (in My Documents\My Games\) Change ControllerHotplug=1 to =0 and you'll be fine. I'm not 100% sure if that's the exact name as I'm not at my PC to check but it's something like that.
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After a 10+ losing streak on the blue baby I took a look at the main menu. What's this? I'm on hard mode? 2 runs later on normal mode I finally get the D6. Moral of the story, make sure you're on normal mode if you're getting stomped. I don't know what all hard mode does, but it certainly felt as though once I switched over to normal mode I was melting things in comparison. I definitely saw a huge difference in item drops too.
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strangemusic posted:Ok I unlocked Azazel... and proceeded to use the Bible and an army of spiders to get all the way to the end of Mom's Heart with barely a flinch. I love Azazel! I found out that getting the actual brimstone makes his breath normal but other than that I don't think so.
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strangemusic posted:Ok I unlocked Azazel... and proceeded to use the Bible and an army of spiders to get all the way to the end of Mom's Heart with barely a flinch. I love Azazel! Get the normal Brimstone. Also, be glad you waited until now to play as him. Before the Brimstone noise was 10x as loud.
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