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Like most of Slott's ideas Silk will probably be fantastic under somebody else. Dude would make a brilliant editor and it's a shame he's hung up on being a mediocre writer for some "wrote Spider-man the longest" No Prize.
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Nov 8, 2014 21:25
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SirDan3k posted:Like most of Slott's ideas Silk will probably be fantastic under somebody else. Not for Spider-Girl, he wouldn't. But then according to Frenz every editor wanted to kill off Spider-Girl's parents. hiddenriverninja posted:Already counting down until they send her to Hong Kong to be "the Spider-Man of Asia." Don't be ridiculous. Cass Cain was a good character that fans loved and editorial hated. Silk is a bad character fans hate and the editors love.
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Nov 8, 2014 22:04
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what's hilarious is that she's been at the spider hero game for about a week and she tells Peter she can handle New York. go away Peter, I got this.
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Nov 9, 2014 01:00
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hiddenriverninja posted:what's hilarious is that she's been at the spider hero game for about a week and she tells Peter she can handle New York. go away Peter, I got this. But she's watched him on TV, that counts as experience, right? Anyway, I feel that perhaps there's a wee bit too much hostility towards Slott in this thread. As a counter to this, I feel I should praise one facet of Spider-Verse. He took Spider-Girl back to her short hair and got rid of her piercings, which seems logical since I can't imagine those would be comfortable with her mask anyway (see also: round head Spider-Man from the ultimate universe). And frankly I think it looks better.  Bravo! Also: the Spider-Man & Human Torch miniseries was pretty great.
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Nov 9, 2014 02:57
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Dan Slott didn't draw Mayday like that. That's all Coipel.
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Nov 9, 2014 03:09
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Yvonmukluk posted:He took Spider-Girl back to her short hair and got rid of her piercings, which seems logical since I can't imagine those would be comfortable with her mask anyway (see also: round head Spider-Man from the ultimate universe). And frankly I think it looks better. He made her hair better! He killed her parents and boyfriend, but he made her hair better!
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Nov 9, 2014 03:16
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Spider-Girl didn't have editors, it was just Tom DeFalco getting to do whatever he wanted. If it did someone likely would have looked at Amazing Spider-Girl and went "holy poo poo what the gently caress am I reading Tom" and then he'd just burn them with a cigar
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Nov 9, 2014 05:21
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Codependent Poster posted:Dan Slott didn't draw Mayday like that. That's all Coipel. Oh. I guess that Slott has done absolutely nothing positive for Spider-Girl then. WickedHate posted:He made her hair better! He killed her parents and boyfriend, but he made her hair better! I don't get why you think I condone what Slott did to Spider-Girl in general. I was merely playing Devil's advocate. That's the only positive thing I could find. And it turns out that wasn't even him. So yeah, Dan Slott is a hack. Blockhouse posted:Spider-Girl didn't have editors, it was just Tom DeFalco getting to do whatever he wanted. If it did someone likely would have looked at Amazing Spider-Girl and went "holy poo poo what the gently caress am I reading Tom" and then he'd just burn them with a cigar According to Frenz it did, but DeFalco and Frenz kindly kept telling them to shut the gently caress up about killing the Parkers, seriously you guys gently caress off. It was a simpler time, when the creative staff could tell editorial to stop loving around and let the guys whose job it is tell the stories.
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Nov 9, 2014 11:09
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I am glad that creative freedom was given. What would the comics world be without Wild Thing, Angry Eagle, Darkdevil, Sabreclaw or the greatest Spider character since creation J2. Unfortunately we must only now put up with the hack Dan Slott.
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Nov 9, 2014 11:22
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Waterhaul posted:I am glad that creative freedom was given. What would the comics world be without Wild Thing, Angry Eagle, Darkdevil, Sabreclaw or the greatest Spider character since creation J2. Who hurt you, friend Waterhaul?
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Nov 9, 2014 12:04
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Waterhaul posted:I am glad that creative freedom was given. What would the comics world be without Wild Thing, Angry Eagle, Darkdevil, Sabreclaw or the greatest Spider character since creation J2. I'm sorry you rather seem to misunderstand my point. Part of the reason Spider-Girl was so beloved (at least by myself, I can't pretend to speak for anybody else) was that it actually allowed the main character to have a mostly happy life. Yes, some of the new characters were hokey, but no more ridiculous than a lot of the other characters created in the 90s with stupid names. The dialogue was oftentimes rather out of touch. But at the end of the day, although there were often struggles involved with being a superhero, it was ultimately a worthwhile endeavor. Compare to the vast majority of today's comics, where DC literally has an editorial policy that heroes can't have happy personal lives. So yes, MC2 had its share of ridiculousness and silly names. But you know what? I don't care about that. the MC2 was a place I wanted to keep coming back to, so I kept reading the comics. I sure as heck don't want to see the line's flagship character 'reduced to the panic stricken survivor of a cheap slasher movie'. Maybe Slott's trying to make a point with the avatars of grimdarkness marching into happy canons (Amazing Friends, MC2, and even the fruit-pie-advertisments aren't safe) and wrecking the place. But quite frankly I don't care about what he's got to say.
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Nov 9, 2014 12:21
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Waterhaul posted:I am glad that creative freedom was given. What would the comics world be without Wild Thing, Angry Eagle, Darkdevil, Sabreclaw or the greatest Spider character since creation J2. You know you talk about our hatred of Dan Slott but it is like Spider-girl killed your parents or something.
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Nov 9, 2014 15:25
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So what issue did Toei Spider-Man show up in?
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Nov 9, 2014 15:35
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Schneider Heim posted:So what issue did Toei Spider-Man show up in? And by what level of bullshit did Morloun overpower a thirty story robot?
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Nov 9, 2014 15:48
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He's just seen in a splash page image of different universes in #9 minus his giant robot. Though he also isn't the only Spider person with a giant robot hanging around.
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Nov 9, 2014 16:21
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Waterhaul posted:or the greatest Spider character since creation J2. I unironically feel this way.
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Nov 9, 2014 16:43
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Waterhaul posted:I am glad that creative freedom was given. What would the comics world be without Wild Thing, Angry Eagle, Darkdevil, Sabreclaw or the greatest Spider character since creation J2. This but unironically. (Honestly, I've never read anything about the MC2 characters outside their Wikipedia pages but they seem like the best kind of stupid fun.)
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Nov 9, 2014 18:06
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Waterhaul posted:He's just seen in a splash page image of different universes in #9 minus his giant robot. Though he also isn't the only Spider person with a giant robot hanging around. There better be a spider-verse team-up issue where every spider-prson with a mech team up and combine
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Nov 9, 2014 18:16
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:There better be a spider-verse team-up issue where every spider-prson with a mech team up and combine "Form feet and legs and legs and legs and legs..."
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Nov 9, 2014 18:19
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JohnnyCanuck posted:"Form feet and legs and legs and legs and legs..." I AM MORLUN UNSTOPABLE SPIDER-MAN DRACULA BLAH BLAH BLAH! *stomp* *stomp* *stomp* *stomp* *stomp* *stomp* *stomp* *stomp*
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Nov 9, 2014 19:47
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JohnnyCanuck posted:"Form feet and legs and legs and legs and legs..." "And I'll form the web-shooters!"
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So we know Captain Universe Spidey will probably die because that'll be the old "oh poo poo we're doomed!" moment, but I'd really laugh if then Spider-Phoenix came out and wiped out Morlun and company in one panel. Then brings every Spider back to life.
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Nov 9, 2014 20:19
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Codependent Poster posted:So we know Captain Universe Spidey will probably die because that'll be the old "oh poo poo we're doomed!" moment, but I'd really laugh if then Spider-Phoenix came out and wiped out Morlun and company in one panel. That or his universe will get Incursion'd and he'll be brought down to regular Spidey levels. I'm guessing the Master Weaver will be the official reset button of the crossover, if it has one.
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Yvonmukluk posted:That or his universe will get Incursion'd and he'll be brought down to regular Spidey levels.
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Nov 9, 2014 23:09
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Suben posted:Black sheep Inheritor is Karn, the guy with diving helmet. Old Man Spider-Man is probably going to be Uncle Ben if they're keeping his identity a secret. I thought Old Man Spider was explicitly a variation on Peter Parker, wasn't he? Fake Edit: http://marvel.wikia.com/Peter_Parker_%28Earth-312500%29
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Schneider Heim posted:So what issue did Toei Spider-Man show up in? I'm sort of glad that I'm not writing this series because I don't think I could resist just having toei spider man beat the poo poo out of morlun in leopardon. My love of giant robots is too strong.
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Nov 10, 2014 05:50
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That's who we thought it was, but Slott is throwing a CURVE BALL and saying his identity is a secret. Which means it's Uncle Ben and his death will spurn our Peter on to victory.
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Codependent Poster posted:That's who we thought it was, but Slott is throwing a CURVE BALL and saying his identity is a secret. That Uncle Ben's death should make Peter go all gurren lagann on the Leopardon and make it galaxy-sized to defeat Morlun.
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Monaghan posted:I'm sort of glad that I'm not writing this series because I don't think I could resist just having toei spider man beat the poo poo out of morlun in leopardon. My love of giant robots is too strong. Hey, there are a bunch of morluns this time. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt the overall plot if one or two of them got squashed by leopardon. Too bad this is a very serious event, which precludes fun and/or good writing.
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Nov 10, 2014 06:40
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Leopardon will be saved for an almost direct ripoff of the scene in Avengers when Hulk slams Loki into the floor of Stark Tower.
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Captain Q posted:I thought Old Man Spider was explicitly a variation on Peter Parker, wasn't he? Monaghan posted:I'm sort of glad that I'm not writing this series because I don't think I could resist just having toei spider man beat the poo poo out of morlun in leopardon. My love of giant robots is too strong.
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Nov 10, 2014 10:18
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It's what should happen considering Morlun's original defeat is through the science of shooting radioactive waste into yourself to counter his mumbo-jumbo. Giant robot is the next tier of science.
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Nov 10, 2014 10:41
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So does Spider-Phoenix have a world? I thought he was our Peter. I don't really get the multiverse sometimes.
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Almost none of the Spider-Men from alternate worlds are the ORIGNALS from alternate worlds. Ultimate Universe designation is 1610. But in Spider-Verse, it is identified as 610. The Amazing Friends TV show is Earth-8107. In Amazing #7, the Amazing Friends is Earth-1983. These are mostly, if not entirely, alternate realities so that the original universes these characters come from can still be used in the future. Or hell Slott will probably have everything wrapped up in a neat little bow by the end of the story. Hell the Spider-Man 2099 stuck in 616 isn't even from the original 2099-verse. He's like the the third one. Original, the one from Exiles, and the current guy.
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Waterhaul posted:He's just seen in a splash page image of different universes in #9 minus his giant robot. Though he also isn't the only Spider person with a giant robot hanging around. Who are the others? Come to think, I hope Toei Spidey gets to interact with SP//DR at some point. TwoPair posted:Leopardon will be saved for an almost direct ripoff of the scene in Avengers when Hulk slams Loki into the floor of Stark Tower. See, we're all hoping for a balls-to-the-wall awesome moment where the giant robot(s?) comes in to save the day, but we all know what's likelier to happen is it'll appear for two panels and then get chumped by one of the Morluns so they can further establish how eeeeeevil and serious a threat they are. Then that particular Morlun will be defeated one-on-one by Silk.
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TwoPair posted:Leopardon will be saved for an almost direct ripoff of the scene in Avengers when Hulk slams Loki into the floor of Stark Tower. I'll take back every bad thing I ever said about this event if that actually happens, I don't even care if it's unoriginal.
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I'm just hoping we get a moment like this from Endhiran, but with a spider: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGl0KYjIawk
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Angry Walrus posted:Who hurt you, friend Waterhaul? He's probably read an MC2 comic within the last few years (That said J2 is the only thing from that universe I like too) Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Nov 11, 2014 |
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notthegoatseguy posted:Almost none of the Spider-Men from alternate worlds are the ORIGNALS from alternate worlds. Ultimate Universe designation is 1610. But in Spider-Verse, it is identified as 610. The Amazing Friends TV show is Earth-8107. In Amazing #7, the Amazing Friends is Earth-1983. These are mostly, if not entirely, alternate realities so that the original universes these characters come from can still be used in the future. Or hell Slott will probably have everything wrapped up in a neat little bow by the end of the story. He's stated that Earth-610 was a typo. Also, that doesn't change that it's quite clearly intended to invoke a reaction from fans of those universes, whether the misnumbering was deliberate or not. And despite all the mistakes made by Slott regarding Spider-Girl continuity, he actually got the MC2 designation right. Blockhouse posted:He's probably read an MC2 comic within the last few years Man, what is with all the MC2 hate?
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