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RonJeremysBalzac
Jul 29, 2004

Broken Cog posted:

So I just unlocked the Lost through the method posted in the Reddit puzzle piece thread.

For the record I:

1. Restarted as Isaac until I got a big room with mullibooms next to the starting room.
2. Bombed myself as Maggy in the first room of Caves 1.
3. Got killed by Moms foot in the Depths mom fight as Judas.
4. Got killed by Satan when he flies around and shoots lasers and bullets as Azael.

I did no restarts after getting killed by a Mulliboom, and I didn't die(before I had to) in any of the runs.

Had one of the best runs to Mom as Judas I've ever had too, heh.


If you're on the PC press left control.

I unlocked the Lost about an hour ago, and had to restart once as Azealwhatever, but it took. It seems to work as long as you die in the right way, in the right sequence, with restarting being fine if you have to do so to avoid dying.

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Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Is there a list of all various character item unlocks, ie: Beating Satan with Isaac unlocks Moms Knife?

Also, for unlocking The Lost, do you need to have beaten Mega Satan/Have the Missing Poster, or do you just need to do the death sequence stuff?

Flergatron 3000
May 8, 2008

you look like a fool with those buns!
Finally unlocked the D6. Got the boss rush as well thanks to Double Shot and Ipecac.

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp
Gun Saliva
Does The Tank always have stompy-Mom? Because it did for me and it made the fight a joke.

Cuntpunch
Oct 3, 2003

A monkey in a long line of kings
Am I just rusty after having been on Isaac break for a year or two, because Rebirth's enemies seem *much better* at leading their shots than I remember. But Rebirth has given me a reason to start dumping hours into Isaac again and it's been amazing, if not just for some of the crazy poo poo the game does now. Some other specific notes/questions I have:

It seems like Infamy blocks only shots that are coming pretty much in from *perfectly* the angle Isaac is facing and that any sort of angle to them will bypass it?

In the original game you could kind of force building a complete Meat Boy by carrying around the Book of Revelations to force Horsemen to spawn. Is there something similar for getting Bandage Girl? Because I notice the starting Bandage Ball also appears to be on Horseman loot tables now.

How do some of the more obscure weapon/tear item buff interactions work(quad shot + technology 2?) Is it just a wash, or does it actually increase damage output?

Meanwhile, however, Azazel is goddamn OP as hell and fantastic fun to boot. He's probably also the only way to make Tiny Planet actually useful without already having Brimstone/Technology - since it turns his basic attack into a 360-degree


Edit: One other weird thing I can't quite find documentation on: What does the upper-left page with the symbols mean on the Character Select screen? I suspect it's endings-gotten, but I'm not sure how to decipher it.

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012



Cuntpunch posted:

Am I just rusty after having been on Isaac break for a year or two, because Rebirth's enemies seem *much better* at leading their shots than I remember. But Rebirth has given me a reason to start dumping hours into Isaac again and it's been amazing, if not just for some of the crazy poo poo the game does now. Some other specific notes/questions I have:

It seems like Infamy blocks only shots that are coming pretty much in from *perfectly* the angle Isaac is facing and that any sort of angle to them will bypass it?

In the original game you could kind of force building a complete Meat Boy by carrying around the Book of Revelations to force Horsemen to spawn. Is there something similar for getting Bandage Girl? Because I notice the starting Bandage Ball also appears to be on Horseman loot tables now.

How do some of the more obscure weapon/tear item buff interactions work(quad shot + technology 2?) Is it just a wash, or does it actually increase damage output?

Meanwhile, however, Azazel is goddamn OP as hell and fantastic fun to boot. He's probably also the only way to make Tiny Planet actually useful without already having Brimstone/Technology - since it turns his basic attack into a 360-degree


Edit: One other weird thing I can't quite find documentation on: What does the upper-left page with the symbols mean on the Character Select screen? I suspect it's endings-gotten, but I'm not sure how to decipher it.

The symbols correspond to boss kills. A heart for Mom's heart (duh) a star for boss rush I think? And a few others in the same vein.

GenericGirlName
Apr 10, 2012

Why did you post that?
:( For the challenge that is "Computer Savvy" has anyone else run into some problems with getting damage pick ups? Whenever I try that challenge and I pick up something like Meat it reduces my damage on the pause screen, and I definitely don't feel like I'm doing any more damage.

Wugga
Oct 30, 2006

I BEAT MEAT
Argh, made it to Mega Satan with Eve and Fetus in a jar. By some miracle I made it to the second Black Angel before one of my bombs pushed another back in my face and took me down.

That is one hell of a boss.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
What does the Jump book does?

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

Kurtofan posted:

What does the Jump book does?
There are a ton of items in the game where the function is not immediately obvious.

This is not one of those.

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012



Kurtofan posted:

What does the Jump book does?

It lets you jump. Press a direction + space and go crazy.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Kaethela posted:

It lets you jump. Press a direction + space and go crazy.

I have flight :v: no wonder pressing space didn't do anything

Heran Bago
Aug 18, 2006



Are there any items that straight-up do nothing?

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Heran Bago posted:

Are there any items that straight-up do nothing?

Well, the Missing Poster and Mysterious paper doesn't seem to have any other use than what was required for the lost puzzle.

HGH
Dec 20, 2011

Kurtofan posted:

I have flight :v: no wonder pressing space didn't do anything

It actually gives a cool, dodge roll like invincibility period when using it too, which is a shame it doen't work.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

A4YD - 669N

This run with Samson was way too fun. Got to the boss rush for the first time and absolutely slaughtered it. My Reflection and Anti-Grav tears is the best, it literally just gives you the bubble gun from cave story.

Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012



How does the breath of life, or whatever it's called, work? It claims invincibility, but I can hold down the space bar and still get hurt before the energy bar runs out. Is there more to it that I don't understand or what?

Lets Pickle
Jul 9, 2007

I just got my first Sacred heart, from an Angel room!

....during the Cat Got your Tongue challenge.


At least it powered up my attack flies.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


Tollymain posted:

honestly i just feel kind of bad for those two dorks who are playing around the clock, that sounds like the worst loving idea you could have regarding a game you enjoy, especially out the loving gate

I dunno, they've brought in a considerable amount of money in subs and donations so I think they'll manage.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

I dunno, they've brought in a considerable amount of money in subs and donations so I think they'll manage.

They'll just probably be utterly sick of all things Isaac related for a month or two. That and probably have PTSD trying to do Lost runs.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽
The dude plays isaac like 8 hours a day as it is. It's his job. I doubt an extra 4 has any effect on that.

Oh and yeah, big payout so why not.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Someone tell me how to make a lot of money pretending to be mad at bad things that happen to me in a video game

edit: Do I have to grow an awful pubey beard first?

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
Determined to have a good run with the blue baby. Sitting here hung over pumping away at it and every run has been just god awful.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Kaethela posted:

How does the breath of life, or whatever it's called, work? It claims invincibility, but I can hold down the space bar and still get hurt before the energy bar runs out. Is there more to it that I don't understand or what?
As far as I can tell once the bar is fully empty you have about a second of invincibility before the item starts hurting you (you can release spacebar before this happens to avoid the damage). Once you've used this invincibility you have to wait for it to recharge fully before you can start suffocating yourself again.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!

Alkydere posted:

They'll just probably be utterly sick of all things Isaac related for a month or two. That and probably have PTSD trying to do Lost runs.

Cobalt spent literally thousands of hours playing the original game. Dude's not going to get sick of playing the new game, especially when he keeps making a bunch of money off of it.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽

CJacobs posted:

Someone tell me how to make a lot of money pretending to be mad at bad things that happen to me in a video game

edit: Do I have to grow an awful pubey beard first?

Seems like you got the angry part down already so just play game?

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

Lasher posted:

Determined to have a good run with the blue baby. Sitting here hung over pumping away at it and every run has been just god awful.

I've had the same issue, minus the hangover part today. I can get demon begger and more spirit hearts than I know what to do with on any other character but goddamn it blue baby just keeps loving me over every time :argh:

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Harminoff posted:

Seems like you got the angry part down already so just play game?

Yes but the beard question still stands.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Did the challenge where you have a single huge piercing tear and you can only fire one at a time. I thought it was a slog to get through but not all that bad. Got to the boss rush with it and "hey why not."

Then forgot that you don't get anything for beating the boss rush rooms during challenges :downs:

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



VDay posted:

Cobalt spent literally thousands of hours playing the original game. Dude's not going to get sick of playing the new game, especially when he keeps making a bunch of money off of it.

Oh, I'm sure he's not in the long run. In the short run the fact that due to his challenge he's unable to step back and take a break with other games and playing extra hours each day probably means he's going to have at least a little short-term burnout.

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!
Mulliboom just will not spawn for me, is it super rare or something? This is going to take forever.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

13/f/cali posted:

Mulliboom just will not spawn for me, is it super rare or something? This is going to take forever.

I used VDays advice and just kept restarting until I got a celler floor with a 2x2 room next to the starting room, since they seem to be most commonly found there.

Still took about 5-10 minutes, though.

Thanks Internet
May 27, 2012

This poster just flew all the way from Caketown just to make this post!

Now THAT'S desperate!
Did you know Brimstone works with sheilding tears? I also really like how the limit for how many attack flies you can take between rooms has seriously increased, it makes guppy's head and cat mode that much better.

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe
I've beaten the heart twice now. Where do i go from here?

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


Darth Windu posted:

I've beaten the heart twice now. Where do i go from here?

Keep killing the heart. Sometimes you'll get lucky and Satan will open his door after the fight and you can go down there too. Once you kill the heart 10(?) or so times, two paths will open up from there permanently. (Unless they changed it in this one, which it doesn't sound like they did?)

Darth Windu
Mar 17, 2009

by Smythe

Color Printer posted:

Keep killing the heart. Sometimes you'll get lucky and Satan will open his door after the fight and you can go down there too. Once you kill the heart 10(?) or so times, two different paths will open up from there permanently. (Unless they changed it in this one, which it doesn't sound like they did?)

Ten times?? Jeez Louise.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Darth Windu posted:

Ten times?? Jeez Louise.

Just relax and play the game honestly, don't worry too much about unlocks. Maybe play some of the challenges before everything gets worse better.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

So what does The Lost...like, do

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Dies in one hit to everything

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Relyssa
Jul 29, 2012



Toxxupation posted:

So what does The Lost...like, do

Die in one hit like a chump.

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