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Charles Bukowski posted:I've been playing games with goons since 2003, this has definitely been the most anger and drama I've seen so far. I didn't play Darkfall though, I hear that one wasn't pleasant either. I agree with a lot of these points, especially speculation about an overall attitude shift on the internet, but maybe that's just the coloring of old-tinted glasses looking back on the Golden Age when petty nerd drama was fresher, funnier, and being hashed up the first time around which made it seem fresher, funnier, and less like a tired internet meme/trope/honkhonk-whatever. It is nice that there are still people welcoming new players and finding enjoyment in the game. Charles Bukowski posted:Having given it some thought, I know why everyone was angry and Goon Squad imploded. The answer is fishing. Widestancer posted:Fish 
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Well, finally hit 22/0 on thunderstruck trees. I have turned this into my personal battle, a war to out-Korea Korea. Neither side is giving up. I will continue to plant rumbling trees and they will continue to not give me lightning strikes. ArcheAge balance will be maintained.
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Experienced our first scrubbed Fun Run today. Fittingly, it happened because we were super, super greedy and testing the limits of what we could do in a single run. This time we attempted to load not one but two merchant boats, giving people enough hold space to make and load five packs each. Turns out the difference between loading 2-3 packs and 5 packs each is huge. When you loiter that long on site, you attract an actual fighting force. Over 30 Genocide rickrolled us right as we pulled out to leave - they had had sufficient time to stage, spec for stealth, ball up, and jump us right as we finished loading. Was still great fun overall, though, and since we got intercepted on-site, now they have to deal with having a bunch of packs in their hands to turn in. If they're smart, they'll turn them into Cinderstone peace for gilda, but if they turn them into money or resources, I'm completely okay with this - Mahadevi packs are so goddamned criminally cheap to make that I'll take the 20% crafter's cut and not feel too bad about it. Back-to-back Fun Runs are definitely still a thing, though. Everyone assumes that once the ship sails, that's the end of it, right, alarms off, they're gone already, right?
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atlas of bugs posted:is this the typical experience for goons in online video games? No and a little yes. The leadership issues/changes at the launch = not typical. Normally the leadership burns out a couple of months in. The Thread making GBS threads and stupid goons that couldn't resist taking the troll bait = not typical. Normally a game thread has players that play the game bitching and theory crafting, this one was full of people playing Somethingawful. The tryhards vs the "watch the world burn" goons = typical. Usually the goon leadership keeps a lid on this, or tries to focus the energy of the two groups to some constructive end. Since there was a leadership vacuum this got a little out of control. Asian grind game burnout = typical. Any game that has a ever increasing grind to the get the next +1 hat, will result in a lot of goons going off to the next thing once they hit the wall. The amount of butthurt in this game = not typical. Normally skins are a little thicker, not sure why so many people "raged" over stupid poo poo. I always try to play with goons in most games, and I always have fun. Even with all the drama in this game I am still having a good time. It's just a video game. Digits on the internets.
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Dahn posted:It's just a video game. i dont buy it, wicked guy 
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I'm way more casual with MMOs than I used to be, thanks to having 2 kids home with me all day. But the pattern I think I see is that the same leadership will get recycled from one MMO to the next, when we should instead be considering new leadership in the weeks prior to a game's release. Have you been playing another game with a guy that's not in a leadership role, but puts in more than his fair share of work for the benefit of a goon guild while showing no signs of burnout? Recommend him for a leadership role in an upcoming MMO. Perhaps the same people getting power and the best gear/items handed to them first in several games isn't the right way to go. If we hadn't gone with a guild leader to begin with that swept pedo poo poo under the rug to allow his friend in, maybe the guild would be in better shape today. All of the threadshitting was what people deserved for allowing certain people to become leaders in this game. Also, the amount of whining from fishing goons about getting engaged in PvP in a PvP game was just loving ridiculous. They all left the guild and probably get killed even more while fishing now (if they're even playing the game).
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ruffz posted:All of the threadshitting was what people deserved for allowing certain people to become leaders in this game. strong yes
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Charles Bukowski posted:With an increase in goons, a lot of us lose that "tight-knit" feel we used to feel in goon guilds. "We can't be a huge racist sexist anti-semitic misogynist and generally hugely casually bigoted circlejerk anymore  "If you're one of those gamers that uses the words "bitch", "human being", or "rape" casually you are the worst thing about online gaming and should stop playing entirely until you can grow up past a 12 year old boy's level of edginess. Maybe there wouldn't be so much drama if people could stop being abusive creepy shitheels over the internet constantly. puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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I read about this game in the eve-o thread, and figured I'd come and see what all the fuss isruffz posted:guild leader to begin with that swept pedo poo poo under the rug  I wanted to know more. I don't want to any longer. Thanks thread, voted 5.
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I miss the days of Goontangclan in Wushu, that was a good Goon group.
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angerbot posted:I miss the days of Goontangclan in Wushu, that was a good Goon group. That was the most fun terrible game I've ever played
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Eonwe posted:im pretty sure he wasn't saying that tho Well that's what SA was back then so?
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Eonwe posted:That was the most fun terrible game I've ever played Easily exploited air dash mechanics, a puke skill that makes people drunk, the ability to learn other classes' skills, hidden quests with more obscure requirements than Pokemon hoaxes. Good times, shame Snail was so bad at managing it.
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Extra posted:Well that's what SA was back then so? im pretty sure he was just saying that in past goon guilds he has been in there has been more of a feeling of being at least civil to other goons that definitely wasnt the case in archeage
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Widestancer posted:I've met some really cool gamers here from the AA thread. I didn't get to post in the thread before it went gold, but congratulations on your marriage, my wife (soundboard on SA) and I wish you two all the best. The world needs more gamer couples.
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BBG & Widestancer for cutest forum couple
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Eonwe posted:BBG & Widestancer for cutest forum couple
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Eonwe posted:BFM & Widestancer for cutest forum couple
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Are there any European players in any of the goon guilds? I've been playing the game on an EU server and having fun but maybe playing with goons would be even more fun. Also why are so many people bitching about this game? The forums and reddit are almost exclusively complaints, but the game seems pretty laid back and fun to me.
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Is there an good guides on the ships in this game, I can't find a good one. Also, is it worth it to go pirate?
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Eonwe posted:im pretty sure he was just saying that in past goon guilds he has been in there has been more of a feeling of being at least civil to other goons past tense.... but i still have thousands of funbux left to spend... 
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Eruonen posted:Also why are so many people bitching about this game? The forums and reddit are almost exclusively complaints, but the game seems pretty laid back and fun to me. This is normal. Probably doubly so for an MMO. I've been playing guild wars 2 on and off since release and a lot of eve-o back in the day, and in during my time playing there's not one time I remember where someone isn't complaining about the game dying or whatever, because of something they don't like about it. If you're having fun, play. It's as simple as that. My prediction is that in about a year or so AA will be a glorious game to play (it's new, some things don't work perfectly yet, go figure), and a year of headstart in an MMO is huge 
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The best part about Hasla is shoving out a group that both outnumbers and outgears you by first forcing them to purple up on you because they're non-Hierophant scrubs (Hierophant = master tagger race, win every mob and enrage the zergs), then repeatedly report their bloodstains as "BREAKING THE FISHING PACT" "STEALING FISH" "FISH THIEF" until they go to jail.
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Yeah that wasn't too bad today. Hasla is never as bad as I remember it, it just takes a while. Whisper Bukowski in game for all your tailoring needs.
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Truga posted:My prediction is that in about a year or so AA will be a glorious game to play (it's new, some things don't work perfectly yet, go figure), and a year of headstart in an MMO is huge That'd be nice, but it's hard to look into the future when all a lot of us can see is the login count going down every single day. We've dropped from nearly 200 people online on weekday mornings shortly after launch to barely above 30 right now. The population numbers were bleeding prior to the Auroria release last week, but the Auroria/Thunderstruck debacle seemed to open the floodgates for people quitting. The new WoW expansion coming out today is certainly another blow, since I recall seeing several goons saying AA was just something to do until the WoD launch. I've experienced so many MMO collapses over the years and I hope this game recovers, but poor decisions made by XL/Trion aren't helping right now.
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I was all for thunderstrucks being more common, but putting saplings in an RNG lockbox was just loving dumb and an obvious cash grab
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ruffz posted:poor decisions made by XL/Trion aren't helping right now. Eonwe posted:I was all for thunderstrucks being more common, but putting saplings in an RNG lockbox was just loving dumb and an obvious cash grab e: Well, I've never played an MMO that has not enough players before, but I can imagine that would suck.
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Unguided posted:Easily exploited air dash mechanics, a puke skill that makes people drunk, the ability to learn other classes' skills, hidden quests with more obscure requirements than Pokemon hoaxes. Good times, shame Snail was so bad at managing it. Check the wushu thread for info on the new mmo, wushu 3.0
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Eonwe posted:I was all for thunderstrucks being more common, but putting saplings in an RNG lockbox was just loving dumb and an obvious cash grab I was growing over 40 trees at a time, and it was kind of a shock to hear that suddenly thunderstrucks were going to be worth 20% of what they had been. So then I had a moment where I said to myself "I have no loving idea what to do with my land now, should I even keep playing?" I ended up choosing to keep playing and now I use the land for grapevines, chicken coops and honey larders for trade packs that I run once or twice a day with my wagon. I still log in daily, but that'll probably change as soon as some new MMO catches my eye.
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ruffz posted:I was growing over 40 trees at a time, and it was kind of a shock to hear that suddenly thunderstrucks were going to be worth 20% of what they had been. So then I had a moment where I said to myself "I have no loving idea what to do with my land now, should I even keep playing?" I ended up choosing to keep playing and now I use the land for grapevines, chicken coops and honey larders for trade packs that I run once or twice a day with my wagon. I still log in daily, but that'll probably change as soon as some new MMO catches my eye. Yeah, I think I stopped logging in as soon as I heard about this. Again, I'm all for ways to make thunderstrucks more common, but for them to just trash the already existing economy in the game for a quick buck kind of ruined the experience for me. Some players were holding on to their thunderstrucks for Auroria because new plans called for them. Thats a really good idea and should be encouraged in the economy. Then suddenly without warning they just add in items that make them far cheaper and easier to get. It makes me wonder what other currently expensive item they are just going to add to the game for purchase and just trash the price on. I'm not mad about it and I got my money's worth, but I probably won't be buying anything from Trion in the future because the way they are handling the game has left a bad taste in my mouth.
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ruffz posted:That'd be nice, but it's hard to look into the future when all a lot of us can see is the login count going down every single day. We've dropped from nearly 200 people online on weekday mornings shortly after launch to barely above 30 right now. The population numbers were bleeding prior to the Auroria release last week, but the Auroria/Thunderstruck debacle seemed to open the floodgates for people quitting. The new WoW expansion coming out today is certainly another blow, since I recall seeing several goons saying AA was just something to do until the WoD launch. I've experienced so many MMO collapses over the years and I hope this game recovers, but poor decisions made by XL/Trion aren't helping right now. (CAVEAT EMPTOR: I AM A "NUBLET") This isn't my area of expertise but... From just playing on the most populous server(Aranzeb), my "business relevant" observations are:
I'm going to stop now because that is already more words on MMORPGs than I ever thought I would write, and I can't imagine it is at all insightful given my naivete here, but looking at this product as a layman from only a month in...what is left to keep players on the edge of their seats? What is there to inspire players to stick around and strive for (and keep the subscriptions going)?
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Widestancer posted:The Repopulation is where it's at. goon love is the best love
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