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fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

Away all Goats posted:

Just once I would like to throw a sticky grenade through a window and not have it stick TO the window :negative:

Just once I'd like to get the 5+ kills with a frag grenade that I see other people get all the time. I can throw one into the middle of a group of people and I might get one assist out of it if I'm lucky :smith:

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Xae
Jan 19, 2005

fknlo posted:

Just once I'd like to get the 5+ kills with a frag grenade that I see other people get all the time. I can throw one into the middle of a group of people and I might get one assist out of it if I'm lucky :smith:

Use Sticky Grenades, not Frags.

Sticky grenades do more damage, have a larger blast radius and have less hosed up physics.

Broose
Oct 28, 2007
GD7F is for when you absolutely have to kill the guy infront of you right now. It's drat good at that. But yes, the most you will likely kill in one magazine is two people, and that reload is loooooooong. I like it cause I love absurd rate of fire, but accurate guns. ACX11 is a good all purpose gun if the default Mercenary isn't to your liking. It is what I use most often nowadays.

fknlo posted:

Just once I'd like to get the 5+ kills with a frag grenade that I see other people get all the time. I can throw one into the middle of a group of people and I might get one assist out of it if I'm lucky :smith:

Probably cause grenades are actually super bouncy balls on a timed fuse.

Evilreaver
Feb 26, 2007

GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!
Dinosaur Gum
All I know is when I was getting the Fortuna (the one true carbine), I breezed through the GD7F and slogged through the ACX11, Merc, and some boring thing I can't remember. The Razor did right by me so :shrug:

I very frequently fired insane hail-mary shots that had no business hitting anything, and they kept scoring me kills. But that's luck/random chance talking.

E: Looked it up, Compact S, auraxed when the UBGL was king

Evilreaver fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Nov 14, 2014

o muerte
Dec 13, 2008

Tempest_56 posted:

Counter-opinion: the GD-7F is highly overrated. It has one of the worst uptimes of an infantry weapon in the game and no real benefits beyond the mythical 'good DPS'. Aside from maybe the Gauss Compact Burst it's the worst NC carbine.

There's a reason all the skilled NC LA shitters use the 7f. Hint: it's because it's good.

Evilreaver posted:

I very frequently fired insane hail-mary shots that had no business hitting anything, and they kept scoring me kills. But that's luck/random chance talking.

I do this with the 7F and the Lynx all the time. It shouldn't work but jesus does it ever.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

o muerte posted:

There's a reason all the skilled NC LA shitters use the 7f. Hint: it's because it's good.


I do this with the 7F and the Lynx all the time. It shouldn't work but jesus does it ever.

Same, but with the VX6-7 and Jaguar.

The Pulsar C however throws the concept of "you shouldn't be taking this shot" out the loving window because there are is no shot you shouldn't take with it.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

The GD-7F is amazing for close/med-range LA shittery and kind of bad at everything else.

It doesn't matter that you can only kill one guy before the world's longest loving reload if you're jumping down to kill a guy then flying away anyway.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



7F is a butt, and the best LA players all just stomp towers all day so guns like the 7F and VX67 are perfect because >20m will never come up. Flying around bases and coming up on a variety of engagement ranges like a normal player means you'll want a more versatile gun with better uptime than none at all.

The X11 or Razor are the true kings of the NC carbine lineup. Fortuna is really nice as well

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

I like the GD7-F because it nullifies a HA's "press F to win" ability.

treizebee
Dec 30, 2011

Stage 3 oil injection

sitchelin posted:

I like the GD7-F because it nullifies a HA's "press F to win" ability.

Was just about to mention this.
I can't react to the gd7f with my skillshield, headshots or no.

Polyakov
Mar 22, 2012


Epic High Five posted:

7F is a butt,

You are a butt.

7F is an absolutely great weapon if like any weapon you play to its strengths and seek out ways to use it, its like shotguns; it by no means is the be all and end all of carbines for the NC and for engineers it certainly isnt the choice you want because it really needs the LA's pack to shine.

Glass of Milk posted:

I just started playing this, and I'm pretty bad, but as an engineer I've been able to repair enough stuff to level up a bit. What's a good weapon for an engineer? I like the idea of battle rifles- that and C4 seem like they'll let me relive my glory days as an engineer in Battlefield 1942.

Wardens a pretty cool weapon for the engineer, its not the most on paper effective choice most of the time but its a real ball to use, i use it a fair bit on my engi, other choices include the Cyclone SMG which is a really good weapon for everyone, or the Razor/ACX if you want a carbine that's a little better at range than the basic one, the razor and warden have the significant advantage of not being 1000 certs.

Try out some of the carbines in VR to see what you like, there really aren't many bad choices for NC carbines.

Arghy
Nov 15, 2012

7f is an awesome gun that absolutely murders at close range but sucks at long range--up time is a concept that only NC can subscribe to since they get retarded DPM carbines. In reality your going to be seeing 1-2 enemys at a time as an LA and the 7f will ensure that atleast 1 of those guys will be loving destroyed. Its pretty much the flagship LA gun because it will win you those LA vs LA fights when you run into each other where no one is supposed to be.

o muerte
Dec 13, 2008

Polyakov posted:

Try out some of the carbines in VR to see what you like, there really aren't many bad choices for NC carbines.

NC guns in general are pretty awesome. If you can think of a class and a situation the NC has a gun that's perfect for it.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Glass of Milk posted:

I just started playing this, and I'm pretty bad, but as an engineer I've been able to repair enough stuff to level up a bit. What's a good weapon for an engineer? I like the idea of battle rifles- that and C4 seem like they'll let me relive my glory days as an engineer in Battlefield 1942.

Battle rifles are very useful for an engineer when you're hanging out near an armoured column or high up on a tower manning/repairing the big base turrets, but they're fairly specialised long-range weaponry - they're not worthless up close, far from it, but they aren't great.

Probably the best all-around weapon for an engineer is the AC-X11, which is a great carbine up close and also punches harder and farther away than any other carbine, and only suffers a bit on the mobility/mid-range front which is the least important to you. (Also, hat tip to the Compact S just because, as an engineer, you can drop an ammo pack and be a massive trolling nuisance to everybody by filling the battlefield with nonstop smoke.)

Ignore the people talking about the GD-7F - not necessarily because they're wrong, but they're talking about a very, very Light Assault-oriented gun. An Engineer doesn't have the luxury of getting up close, dumping a mag, and flying away to reload - instead, he needs a reliable weapon that allows him to keep a safe distance from tougher enemies (i.e. everybody).

But if you want the real-real answer? The default Mercenary is such a good gun that I would never spend 250 of my precious early-game certs (actually ~500 after attachments) on a exciting sidegrade like the AC-X11. Kit yourself out with more critical stuff like sticky grenades, mines, the Universal Cert Generator (Sunderer with AMS and Deployment Shield 1), and several ranks of repair tool and flak armour.

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

I treat Battle/Scout Rifles like Slug Shotguns. 2x sights, bust heads. If I wanted to snipe, I'd use a loving sniper rifle.

Davethulhu
Aug 12, 2003

Morbid Hound

Synnr posted:

I remember someone posting an image of the grenade stuff, but did that get changed for the VS at some point recently? Because AV grenades have been bouncing like poo poo since they made them sticky.

I think all AV grenades use the same model (the cylinder "can" looking thing). However, each faction's frag (and sticky) grenades have a slightly different appearance.

VS:

TR:

Tempest_56
Mar 14, 2009

o muerte posted:

There's a reason all the skilled NC LA shitters use the 7f. Hint: it's because it's good.

As others have said, it does one thing very well. It's great when you're a nut-kicking range and need to kill one dude and can then disengage reliably. Take away any part of that - put it out to short-mid range, put more people around, make it so you can't break away at will - and it's average to poor. And bluntly in the situations where it's strong? That's where you would be using a shotgun instead. Or the Cyclone, the Cyclone is insane.

o muerte
Dec 13, 2008

Tempest_56 posted:

As others have said, it does one thing very well. It's great when you're a nut-kicking range and need to kill one dude and can then disengage reliably. Take away any part of that - put it out to short-mid range, put more people around, make it so you can't break away at will - and it's average to poor. And bluntly in the situations where it's strong? That's where you would be using a shotgun instead. Or the Cyclone, the Cyclone is insane.

I find the 7f a lot more versatile than you seem to :colbert:

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

Tempest_56 posted:

As others have said, it does one thing very well. It's great when you're a nut-kicking range and need to kill one dude and can then disengage reliably. Take away any part of that - put it out to short-mid range, put more people around, make it so you can't break away at will - and it's average to poor. And bluntly in the situations where it's strong? That's where you would be using a shotgun instead. Or the Cyclone, the Cyclone is insane.

Yeah this is mostly it. A shotgun or cyclone will win the same fights a 7F will win but with generally more useful uptime and less reliance on aim. There's some value in having A Carbine over a shotgun/SMG for when you're taking longer range potshots, sure, but if you're taking a 7F you're already committing to close range LA making GBS threads and shouldn't need the versatility.

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

Davethulhu posted:

I think all AV grenades use the same model (the cylinder "can" looking thing). However, each faction's frag (and sticky) grenades have a slightly different appearance.

VS:

TR:

Stickies and frags look the same


If you can aim the Bandit is better than the 7F. The ttk difference is like .2 seconds within 10m, the Bandit has a better ttk past 10m a shorter short reload and .75 ADS :madmax:

Fart Car '97 fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Nov 14, 2014

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

Don't stickies still look like pumpkins currently?

Ass_Burgerer
Dec 3, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0dWjsuNXhU&t=464s

AKA; Medical kits and how they are balanced.

e: Also great shame for goku and holding still omg

Fierce Brosnan
Feb 16, 2010

I have seen into the future
Everyone is slightly older
Nov 14
Daily sale: Light Assault Bravo MHS / GD Titan 113 / Protos Helmet
Members sale: TS2 Inquisitor / LA3 Desperado / Cerberus

Ass_Burgerer
Dec 3, 2010

Just found a potential performance boost for frames-poors: Triggers: :reddit:

This could massively improve your FPS if have a CPU with multiple cores and tried unparking cores and whatnot, or it wont change anything. Try it out and see if it works for you! First you need to make sure that your CPUs are unparked using some CPU unparking program, of course. Then:


1) Open up task manager
2) Right click planetside and click Set Affinity
3) Uncheck "core 0"

Some people are reporting +20-30 fps.

Fina
Feb 27, 2006

Shazbot!
I just tried this but nothing is going on right now so I couldn't tell if it made any difference. I get massive framerate dumps down to 20fps in large battles but when nothing is going on I hold at 60.

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica

Ass_Burgerer posted:

Just found a potential performance boost for frames-poors: Triggers: :reddit:

This could massively improve your FPS if have a CPU with multiple cores and tried unparking cores and whatnot, or it wont change anything. Try it out and see if it works for you! First you need to make sure that your CPUs are unparked using some CPU unparking program, of course. Then:


1) Open up task manager
2) Right click planetside and click Set Affinity
3) Uncheck "core 0"

Some people are reporting +20-30 fps.

seems to be a marked improvement but ill have to wait for some server pop to know the truth

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Are there any decent choices for VS carbines? I picked up the Pulsar C, but it pisses bullets in an outline around the target each and every time I try taking a shot down the sights. <:gonk:>

ndub
Jun 9, 2007

Lovely Senorita posted:

Are there any decent choices for VS carbines? I picked up the Pulsar C, but it pisses bullets in an outline around the target each and every time I try taking a shot down the sights. <:gonk:>

I prefer the serpent over the pulsar (fight me nerds) and the vx6-7 is a serpent that recoils in the other direction and costs 4x as much. Neither have super long range but you can still tap fire a bullet at a time.

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011

Lovely Senorita posted:

Are there any decent choices for VS carbines? I picked up the Pulsar C, but it pisses bullets in an outline around the target each and every time I try taking a shot down the sights. <:gonk:>

If you're missing while using the Pulsar C then the problem is with your aim, not the gun.

Arghy
Nov 15, 2012

Lovely Senorita posted:

Are there any decent choices for VS carbines? I picked up the Pulsar C, but it pisses bullets in an outline around the target each and every time I try taking a shot down the sights. <:gonk:>

Slap comp+grip+2x and treat it like an NC gun, stand still while aiming! The pulsar C taught me how to aim at heads, its easily the top 3 carbines in the game(cyclone is #1). Up close never ADS, its got great carbine damage and 3 rounds+knife will kill dudes so up close dance around spraying then move in and knife. The key to being a good LA is knowing how many bullets it takes to bring someone into knife damage.

Westy543
Apr 18, 2013

GINYU FORCE RULES


I like the solstice on VS, it's really nice with a laser if you fire in bursts because then it can panic hip fire like a champ. It's one of the few VS guns that really embraces the VS uptime/reload trait, as it is almost never not firing.

The Pulsar C is very solid though, if you aren't able to hit things with it after putting a grip on, I don't know what to tell you.

Zsinjeh
Jun 11, 2007

:shoboobs:

Ass_Burgerer posted:

Just found a potential performance boost for frames-poors: Triggers: :reddit:

This could massively improve your FPS if have a CPU with multiple cores and tried unparking cores and whatnot, or it wont change anything. Try it out and see if it works for you! First you need to make sure that your CPUs are unparked using some CPU unparking program, of course. Then:


1) Open up task manager
2) Right click planetside and click Set Affinity
3) Uncheck "core 0"

Some people are reporting +20-30 fps.
Åbn Filplacering

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

Lovely Senorita posted:

Are there any decent choices for VS carbines? I picked up the Pulsar C, but it pisses bullets in an outline around the target each and every time I try taking a shot down the sights. <:gonk:>

The default VS carbine is loving good, it has TTKs identical to the Mercenary across the board and much better accuracy and recoil.

But you know, VS guns bad and all.

MuffinMan
Oct 1, 2001

roger that sir, you're good to go.

Lovely Senorita posted:

Are there any decent choices for VS carbines? I picked up the Pulsar C, but it pisses bullets in an outline around the target each and every time I try taking a shot down the sights. <:gonk:>

I have the same issue with the Pulsar C and I have top ~5 outfit accuracy on 4 other carbines, but everyone will storm out the gates to say you're bad if you can't use it.

I went VE3, Serpent, Xenith and VX6-7. Toss the NS on at the end if you're just doing it for directives otherwise if you're just looking for your go-to I would bank on VX6-7.

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction
Holy poo poo, pressed Control+F while trying to get my FPS to display and realized this feature had been in all the time and I never knew.



So if your asked to go to a base you don't know the location of hit Control+F on the map or just click the Spyglass and type it in.

Also the core thing's give me an extra 30-40 fps. :aaaaa:

treizebee
Dec 30, 2011

Stage 3 oil injection
And a cpu unparking tool I've had since I don't even remember :

http://www.coderbag.com/programming-c/disable-cpu-core-parking-utility

I think he made a newer one at the bottom of the page.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Fart Car '97 posted:

The default VS carbine is loving good, it has TTKs identical to the Mercenary across the board and much better accuracy and recoil.

But you know, VS guns bad and all.

To be fair it's really just our AR's that are complete poo poo. (Does not apply to the CME or Terminus)

I use to not like the Solstice since I used the Pulsar C and VX6-7 before I really gave it a chance but it's an incredibly solid gun that's built around popping in and out of cover between reloading. The only thing really "wrong" with it is a lack of great attachments like ALS or SPA. Other than that it's basically an Eridani with one tier lower ROF for better accuracy and Carbine damage dropoff, and I love the Eridani on my LA to the point of grinding the Skorpios along with the Eclipse for maximum LA shitter fun.

A Winner is Jew fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Nov 14, 2014

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Ass_Burgerer posted:

Just found a potential performance boost for frames-poors: Triggers: :reddit:

This could massively improve your FPS if have a CPU with multiple cores and tried unparking cores and whatnot, or it wont change anything. Try it out and see if it works for you! First you need to make sure that your CPUs are unparked using some CPU unparking program, of course. Then:


1) Open up task manager
2) Right click planetside and click Set Affinity
3) Uncheck "core 0"

Some people are reporting +20-30 fps.
I just tested this for a few minutes and this improves my idle/low load FPS by a lot (what the gently caress, SOE) but high load / action FPS stays roughly the same (well, about ~2fps lower). I figure this game is still really first cpu locked during idle periods and your first cpu is doing a lot of other poo poo but it actually ends up using the other cores when you're actually fighting.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Here's the list for armorsmash as of right now:

CONFIRMED ABLE TO MAKE THE SUNDAY, 11/16 MATCH
DoubleAgent
Periphery
FartCar
Nook^3
Ralith
Jurrasik
Fina
Periphery
Butterbears
YoursTruly (maybe)
Treesareop
IGROWWEARYOFTHISWORLD
Fans
Segfault (maybe)
Murphey
Tryzzub
JohntheRussian
Mivko
Lesgoon
Terminal03
Evilreaver
TartanTory
PrettyPrincess
Vernii

Reserve:
Keeshhound
Lenin
Muffinman




Need 1 more to complete the team! And doubtless reserves for last minute bails. Anybody who is comfy with vehicles or gunning is welcome! I want to help test this new format so this can become a thing because it seems really fun.


v v v added v v v

Epic High Five fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Nov 14, 2014

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General Probe
Dec 28, 2004
Has this been done before?
Soiled Meat
I think I can make it. Sign me up, I play as PrettyPrincess.

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