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Coming back to try Head Trauma again after unlocking The Cellar is probably the worst thing you can do to yourself in this game, FYI. Spiders of all variety are an absolute pain in the rear end with that build.
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I found a bizarrely good tanking synergy on an Eve run with razor blade + charm of the vampire + virgo. Razor blade consumes red hearts before spirit hearts, so I could always use it to keep whore of babylon active and doing so gave me a damage buff for that room as well. The best part was polaroid + virgo which meant I got free polaroid invincibility at the start of the room and the wafer damage resistance thanks to virgo. So by continuing to pick up red hearts or gain them with charm of the vampire, I essentially had a red heart charged book of belial, book of shadows, and wafer all packed into one.
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Nov 14, 2014 07:57
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I have Epic Fetus and the ability to take Mom's Knife from Satan. Do they play well together now or is this a super bad idea?
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Nov 14, 2014 08:07
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Um....I just killed ??? as Judas for the first time and I got no unlock or achievement. What gives?
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Nov 14, 2014 08:09
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Sanctum posted:I found a bizarrely good tanking synergy on an Eve run with razor blade + charm of the vampire + virgo. It would be even better with the negative. Instead of temporary invincibility, you'd just instakill everything in the room.
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Nov 14, 2014 08:12
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First time I've gotten Pyromania and wow it kind of trivializes any boss that uses bombs or stomps or explosive projectiles huh? That plus Placenta and a shitton of red health are what carried the entirety of my Lazarus run.
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Nov 14, 2014 08:16
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Welp, Ipecac and Pyromaniac is certainly a game breaking combo.  Seriously, that and going to the dark room with 99 everything, found a key beggar and thankfully I picked up Guppy's tail on the last floor because suddenly I had 50+ items and suddenly The Lamb died in like a couple hits while there were exploding tears everywhere fully healing me. This game is just fantastic.
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Nov 14, 2014 08:18
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:I have Epic Fetus and the ability to take Mom's Knife from Satan. Do they play well together now or is this a super bad idea? Sadly it doesn't do anything. It might affect the damage but it doesn't change how Epic Fetus works at all.
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Nov 14, 2014 08:18
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bat duck posted:When activated there's a chance you get a fully developed meatboy Wait, really? I thought it leveled it up one at a time so I haven't been using it and just trying to get it the hard way. Can I hope to just get it by random chance even if I can't find the sharp plug?
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Nov 14, 2014 08:21
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Waffleopolis posted:Um....I just killed ??? as Judas for the first time and I got no unlock or achievement. What gives? This unlocks the left hand, so if you've already beaten Ultra Pride, you won't get anything new.
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Nov 14, 2014 08:24
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13/f/cali posted:Wait, really? I thought it leveled it up one at a time so I haven't been using it and just trying to get it the hard way. Can I hope to just get it by random chance even if I can't find the sharp plug? habit/9volt should make it pretty fast
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Nov 14, 2014 08:25
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Haven't been able to play for the last few days, did the latest patch get rid of The Lost invincibility bug or does it still work?
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Nov 14, 2014 08:28
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Wugga posted:Haven't been able to play for the last few days, did the latest patch get rid of The Lost invincibility bug or does it still work? It's "lost"
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Nov 14, 2014 08:29
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bat duck posted:It's "lost" Still around on PS4/Vita but God Hand doesn't pop.I'm going to assume it'll just show up whenever the 1.22b or whatever patch drops down to PS4/Vita. Honestly if that glitch didn't exist I would never have touched that char. Anyone that can do it legit I'll tip my hat to but gently caress that nonsense.
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Nov 14, 2014 08:36
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RatHat posted:Sadly it doesn't do anything. It might affect the damage but it doesn't change how Epic Fetus works at all. I ended up taking it anyway before reading this. I was actually pretty relieved that it didn't seem to change how it worked.
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Nov 14, 2014 08:36
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gently caress the Darkness Falls challenge! So glad I beat it, the RNG is specifically out to screw you over as much as possible.
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Nov 14, 2014 08:37
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I just had the best run with an early tanooki leaf and mom's knife. Killed every boss after basement 2 by moving to the middle and standing perfectly still.
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Nov 14, 2014 08:38
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flyboi posted:Still around on PS4/Vita but God Hand doesn't pop.I'm going to assume it'll just show up whenever the 1.22b or whatever patch drops down to PS4/Vita. Honestly if that glitch didn't exist I would never have touched that char. Anyone that can do it legit I'll tip my hat to but gently caress that nonsense. Even if you did it all with glitch you'll have to do dark room, Chest or boss rush on hard. Personally that character is the worst part of the entire game, way to many bullshit rooms and enemies
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Nov 14, 2014 08:39
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bat duck posted:Even if you did it all with glitch you'll have to do dark room, Chest or boss rush on hard. Yeah no God Hand for me then. gently caress that.
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Nov 14, 2014 08:46
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Nov 14, 2014 09:05
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The Lost's "thing" is that he can fly and take devil deals for free (since he's got no health). The downside is of course that you can never ever get hit which is hard, but some items can make it absolutely 100% trivial (shielded tears, brimstone, ludovico etc).
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Nov 14, 2014 09:18
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I don't think you can realistically call never getting hit a single time "absolutely 100% trivial" regardless of what you have.
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Nov 14, 2014 09:24
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Holy Mantle at least gives you 1 free hit per room and isn't "glitched"
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Nov 14, 2014 09:27
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Kanfy posted:I don't think you can realistically call never getting hit a single time "absolutely 100% trivial" regardless of what you have. Even if you have the most amazing items possible, you'll eventually get that one room in the womb with red poop right in front of the door and die before you notice it.
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Nov 14, 2014 09:36
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Even if you have the most amazing items possible, you'll eventually get that one room in the womb with red poop right in front of the door and die before you notice it. Holy Mantle 
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Magres posted:Holy Mantle You'd have to find it first, though. Out of an item pool of 350+ items.
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Nov 14, 2014 09:42
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Is there a general consensus on strategy re: early-floor shops? I've so far tended to avoid shops until I had ~10+ coins on-hand because the keys seemed more valuable to me, but it strikes me that it may be causing the issue I'm seeing where I keep running into Greed/SuperGreed in the Depths, dropping cash and steam sales too late to be used. I mostly just hate hitting the second or third floor and having to skip the treasure room because I either didn't find, or used up, the only key I found on Basement 1.
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CJacobs posted:The Lost's "thing" is that he can fly and take devil deals for free (since he's got no health). The downside is of course that you can never ever get hit which is hard, but some items can make it absolutely 100% trivial (shielded tears, brimstone, ludovico etc). none of those items by themselves even come close to trivializing a lost playthrough. you need an ungodly powerful setup to do that. like, "kill everything in the room before i can even register what enemies were in it" powerful.
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Explosions and brimstone shots are still a problem so perhaps 100% trivial was a bit of an overstatement. MOSTLY trivial. I disagree when it comes to shielded tears though, you can win the game very easily with them if you have a moderately fast firerate. edit: Unless you run into The Bloat. gently caress that guy as any character, especially The Lost.
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Nov 14, 2014 09:50
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I think this is the most evil version of THAT room I have seen so far. Just, what the gently caress man?
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Nov 14, 2014 09:53
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holy mantle+dead cat and a halfway decent tears setup would honestly be the easiest way to win as the lost.
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Nov 14, 2014 09:54
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Alkydere posted:
First time I saw this room I thought I HAD it, but my timing was off and the poop respawned by the time I tried to walk over it. 
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Cuntpunch posted:Is there a general consensus on strategy re: early-floor shops? I've so far tended to avoid shops until I had ~10+ coins on-hand because the keys seemed more valuable to me, but it strikes me that it may be causing the issue I'm seeing where I keep running into Greed/SuperGreed in the Depths, dropping cash and steam sales too late to be used. I mostly just hate hitting the second or third floor and having to skip the treasure room because I either didn't find, or used up, the only key I found on Basement 1. Also if you have spare bombs remember to scan for secret rooms that are next to treasure rooms and shops, it seems to happen a lot.
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Nov 14, 2014 09:59
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TheRagamuffin posted:First time I saw this room I thought I HAD it, but my timing was off and the poop respawned by the time I tried to walk over it. Thankfully the boss room was in the opposite direction so I didn't have to deal with it.
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Nov 14, 2014 10:00
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bat duck posted:When activated there's a chance you get a fully developed meatboy Are you sure about this? When I did it by abusing sharp plug+pyromaniac+loadsabombs, I definitely saw my meat boy and bandage girl being built up from levels 1 to 4. Considering I had a follower train of at least 50 random things it seems weird that I just happened to get level 1 meat cubes/bandages 4 times to build them up like that instead of getting them in one go.
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Nov 14, 2014 10:15
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why does phd not get rid of paralysis? that's pretty obviously a negative pill effect, albeit not as bad as tears or hp down.
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Nov 14, 2014 10:35
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Alkydere posted:
gently caress this room.
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AnonSpore posted:Are you sure about this? When I did it by abusing sharp plug+pyromaniac+loadsabombs, I definitely saw my meat boy and bandage girl being built up from levels 1 to 4. Considering I had a follower train of at least 50 random things it seems weird that I just happened to get level 1 meat cubes/bandages 4 times to build them up like that instead of getting them in one go. Maybe i'm wrong, had the pyro ipecac and habit, dont think I used it enough times to get all upgrades. Did they add the curse that doesent let you see what items you pick up just to say "gently caress you" or because they figured the whole game shouldn't be skill based but purely based on luck? Picked up mirror with bomb and completely ruined a good build. I might have played too much in to short a time, but I'm getting really sick of all the bullshit randomness in this game. So many rooms where I know they were just thinking "haha this is gonna piss them off!" And I can barely get a run going now because I'm so sick of the first few floors using forever on every single room with the starting stats.
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ShadeofDante posted:Welp, Ipecac and Pyromaniac is certainly a game breaking combo. I was afraid of picking up anti-gravity tears, but anti-gravity tears + IPECAC is actually quite nice. Taking 2 range down pills certainly helped.
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Sanctum posted:What does it do? I have both as well as mr. mega right now, the bombs are just normal. Pyromaniac makes explosions heal you.
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