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wow, just had a run where I really regretted having almost two full bars worth of Max HP -- I was playing Eve and kept getting HP Ups but never really got the chance to trade them away (Krampus room, a couple devil rooms that only had a single 1-heart item) and THEN in the womb I picked up Devil Bum which would normally be the best Eve item ever but since my max HP was so high I only had room for 2 soul hearts and it made it really risky keeping up the Whore of Babylon bonus. Never really suffered before from the new Rebirth limit on maximum max health but it made things a lot harder for me here
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Nov 14, 2014 19:20
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Holy crap do I hate the Cursed Eye. Completely ruined my Eve run by teleporting me to random rooms whenever I got hit. At least it made for good practice for any upcoming Lost runs...
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Nov 14, 2014 19:35
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Wugga posted:Holy crap do I hate the Cursed Eye. Completely ruined my Eve run by teleporting me to random rooms whenever I got hit. At least it made for good practice for any upcoming Lost runs... I've had some bad items but the Cursed Eye is super awful. Unless it's early on Dead Cat is basically run-over for me. Sure I'd love to only have one health and nine lives. That way if I can't beat the heart on 1 HP I get to lose 8 more times. It'll be fun!
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Nov 14, 2014 19:38
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someone put 'the cursed eye won't teleport you if you're not charging a shot when you get hit' in the OP in big red flashing letters
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Nov 14, 2014 19:40
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So, I think Mongo Baby is only, like, half bugged? I had an Eden run where I started with Demon Baby, and then on the first floor, I got Mongo Baby. Demon Baby disappeared. But later on, I picked up Ghost Baby, and then Demon Baby came back. So I had the three familiars I was supposed to have. I still think I'll avoid Mongo Baby in the future.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:42
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Agent Kool-Aid posted:someone put 'the cursed eye won't teleport you if you're not charging a shot when you get hit' in the OP in big red flashing letters Oh wow, that really almost helps. If I knew that then I could probably beat mom by just never shooting.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:43
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Agent Kool-Aid posted:someone put 'the cursed eye won't teleport you if you're not charging a shot when you get hit' in the OP in big red flashing letters TMYK, wow. Also, does anyone have tips on getting more angel rooms? Or even devil rooms on the first couple levels? I'm trying to get two angel rooms in a run for well known reasons, but I'll be damned if they ever show up when I have a loadout worth bringing to the endgame.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:44
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Heran Bago posted:I've had some bad items but the Cursed Eye is super awful. Does guppy's collar work the same way? Reviving with 1 heart is a pathetically dumb idea for an item unless it's like Lazarus where you revive immediately in the room.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:45
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Cheekio posted:TMYK, wow. Don't take damage on the floor or the boss to improve your chances of a devil/angel room. You can't get a devil room on Basement/Cellar 1. Taking a devil deal pretty much guarantees you won't get an angel room the rest of the run.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:46
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Alkydere posted:
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Nov 14, 2014 19:49
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If you don't kill the heart and skip to Sheol then it doesn't count as a heart kill. If you do kill the heart but then continue to the next level instead of opening the chest does it count towards the unlockable levels, or do you have to get the things out of the chest X number of times for that to happen?
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Nov 14, 2014 19:50
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Ghost Head posted:Does guppy's collar work the same way? Reviving with 1 heart is a pathetically dumb idea for an item unless it's like Lazarus where you revive immediately in the room. I believe you revive with 1/2 heart filled but all of your heart containers.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:50
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Heran Bago posted:If you don't kill the heart and skip to Sheol then it doesn't count as a heart kill. If you kill the heart and get sheol or cathedral to pop pre it lives it gives you the unlock even if you die in the next level. It won't count toward a win streak, though.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:52
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Wugga posted:Holy crap do I hate the Cursed Eye. Completely ruined my Eve run by teleporting me to random rooms whenever I got hit. At least it made for good practice for any upcoming Lost runs... Yes, that. Never gonna pick that up again. It does no good. Unless maybe you play as The Lost, I guess. People whine about Bob's Brain but as long as you adjust your playstyle it can be very useful, the cursed eye is only ever good if you're already good enough to never get it.
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Nov 14, 2014 19:52
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Oh my god that giant room with the walking skulls and the cross room spitting heads sucks so much
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Nov 14, 2014 19:59
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FAT WORM OF ERROR posted:Oh my god that giant room with the walking skulls and the cross room spitting heads sucks so much Are you talking about the ones that you can't damage until they pop up, but still walk around? Those are easily one of my most hated enemies. I was doing the challenge earlier where you start with epic fetus and I ended up just bombing out of the room and leaving because I couldn't get a shot off in time to kill one before it went back into invulnerable mode.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:05
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Kaethela posted:Don't take damage on the floor or the boss to improve your chances of a devil/angel room. You can't get a devil room on Basement/Cellar 1. Taking a devil deal pretty much guarantees you won't get an angel room the rest of the run. I'm so tempted to just not even bother going for Angel Rooms anymore, I almost always get garbage Angel Rooms.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:07
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FAT WORM OF ERROR posted:Oh my god that giant room with the walking skulls and the cross room spitting heads sucks so much Variations of this room are in Sheol with rotating eyeball turrets. You have to hope the walking skull decides to open up while it slowly plods towards you. If it doesn't, you're taking a full heart of damage from running into it or the eyeball turrets.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:21
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Mental note: Do not use reroll room when doing challenge where default items are set up to complement your inability to shoot.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:22
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CJacobs posted:
Wrong! Libra + Ipecac is awesome.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:24
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FAT WORM OF ERROR posted:Oh my god that giant room with the walking skulls and the cross room spitting heads sucks so much Another one of my "favorites" is the normal-sized one with a bunch of rocks, three Masks and their Hearts which are on the other side of a pit you can't reach unless you have flying.
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So today I learned that Tech 2 plus Ipecac makes every tick of your Tech 2 laser deal Ipecac damage. Coincidentally, today I also got through the boss rush as ???. I didn't get through the Dark Room, though, because it turns out that Mom's Contact plus Ipecac means that whenever you enter a room and start firing, you shoot a bomb backwards into the wall and blow yourself up!
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wocobob posted:So today I learned that Tech 2 plus Ipecac makes every tick of your Tech 2 laser deal Ipecac damage. Coincidentally, today I also got through the boss rush as ???. That's a pretty cool interaction. Also that's Mom's Eye. Mom's Contact adds a freezing effect to your shots.
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Nov 14, 2014 20:57
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Kurtofan posted:gently caress that, I beat the demo man challenge but since I went in the Cathedral and died there, it doesn't count. Doesent the challange end after you beat isaac?
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Somebody posted that duplicate guppy items don't give you the transform but I had a run where I got dead cat twice and then the mongo baby which turned me into guppy Also charm of the vampire just saved my hard mode chest run, of all things. Had an okay tiny planet build that managed to stay alive by killing all of the flies the boss was spawning.
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Kurtofan posted:but I lost I feel you man. I died there too. I died exactly when Isaac died, even saw the chest pop up.
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So is there no way to abuse the dead cat anymore? It used to be the best item in the game for that reason, now I've only really found it useful as a stepping-stone to guppy-mode.
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Nov 14, 2014 21:10
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bat duck posted:When activated there's a chance you get a fully developed meatboy It doesn't do that. When you use it it gives you a random pet, which can be a cube of meat/ball of bandages. I got them with the Sharp Plug, The Wafer, and the Fanny Pack with full health pills coming in a bunch. It was a pain in the rear end but it did seem easier than getting them normally.
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Morholt posted:So is there no way to abuse the dead cat anymore? It used to be the best item in the game for that reason, now I've only really found it useful as a stepping-stone to guppy-mode. You sound a little sad that they fixed a bug. Don't worry, the cat always was poo poo in Isaac, all it did was raise your death counter.
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FAT WORM OF ERROR posted:Oh my god that giant room with the walking skulls and the cross room spitting heads sucks so much Those guys wouldn't annoy me so much if they weren't 110% immune to everything besides (maybe) DOT damage when they were hidden. Attack buddies lay off them and even piercing won't damage them. It's just "we're motherfucking invincible until WE let you attack". I wouldn't mind if it say piercing attacks could still damage them, but nope.
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Samuel Clemens posted:Does the Guillotine have an actual use besides giving you a headache and making you an easier target?
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Agent Kool-Aid posted:someone put 'the cursed eye won't teleport you if you're not charging a shot when you get hit' in the OP in big red flashing letters
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IronicDongz posted:seriously cursed eye is legitimately a good item if you know this and have the wherewithal to remove your fingers from the arrow keys once in a while Wait, really? It only teleports during a charge? Well that makes it still obnoxious but not game ending.
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Doesn't make much of a difference because you should always have a charged shot ready with chargeable weapons so you can actually defend yourself. Sure, you could just release a charge if you know you're about to be hit, but if you know you're about to be hit you may as well just dodge unless you know it's impossible somehow. Unless you can just mash your cursor/face buttons to spam tears like with chocolate milk, in that case cursed eye would be fantastic. But I'm pretty sure that's not the case.
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IGgy IGsen posted:You sound a little sad that they fixed a bug. Dead cat + fallen in original was always great to break the hell out of the game
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IronicDongz posted:seriously cursed eye is legitimately a good item if you know this and have the wherewithal to remove your fingers from the arrow keys once in a while Oh geez I didn't realize that. I thought it was completely random on hit.
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