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Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Oh, so that's where the pic came from.

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Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

How Rude posted:

Is that Mega64 himself in the flesh?

...did they lose a bet or something?

That's like... what Mega64 got famous for doing, have you never watched their older videos? The one with the merchant from RE4 was the best.

The GIG
Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, I say "Shit" a shit-ton of times. What of it, shithead?
My favorite thing about lame fanservice games is finding that one dude that defends his favorite to death and gushes about it's systems without realizing they're either really crap and convoluted or the kind of poo poo RPGs left behind 2 generations ago.

The GIG
Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, I say "Shit" a shit-ton of times. What of it, shithead?

Sakurazuka posted:

That's like... what Mega64 got famous for doing, have you never watched their older videos? The one with the merchant from RE4 was the best.

Also is not the same as the Forums Poster Mega64.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

to be fair even if theyre overly complicated theyre gonna hit the right points in someone's brain

and i mean, come on, fellow soul nomad name haver, that game had you cycling through rooms for 10+ minutes at a time

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Argarest War is ridiculously poo poo with the some of the most retarded and convoluted systems outside of a SaGa game, even if you love fanservice and dating waifu's and boy do I ever.

The GIG
Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, I say "Shit" a shit-ton of times. What of it, shithead?
Jokes on you I never played soul nomad.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

The GIG posted:

Jokes on you I never played soul nomad.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

The GIG posted:

My favorite thing about lame fanservice games is finding that one dude that defends his favorite to death and gushes about it's systems without realizing they're either really crap and convoluted or the kind of poo poo RPGs left behind 2 generations ago.

This is Xenogears, right?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Beef Waifu posted:

This is Xenogears, right?

Don't you say anything bad about 80 hours of Evangelion fanfiction the latter half of which is spewed to you by a dude in a chair

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Endorph posted:

honestly the fanservice isnt even that bad. like its there and its dumb but it's not the worst about that

what makes it bad is gigantic amounts of grinding and completely weird game balance

still not the worst game ever like some people act like it is though.

edit: also the writing in agarest is extremely bad but the gen with the two foppish kids is the best

"We truly are unequaled, aren't we?"
"We are indeed, brother."

*10+ characters including characters who aren't even there and the giant plant monster get a '...' dialogue box*

Pretty much this, I beat Zero because... well I will see that poo poo to the loving end, and Zero contains basically Game 1 in Digest form (All the plot events, none of the random battles, good end only.) and it was just... I can't imagine doing that without all the grinding and extra poo poo cut out.

Part 3 though did feature a legitimately likable protagonist, not that any of them are particularly 'bad' it's just that most of them are bland as hell.

Now the fact that the games combat system is just... you know what?

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/kusoge/kusoge01.htm

It's all summed up there but as a teaser

quote:

Firstly, let's get one thing straight: Agarest has little to do with salacious imagery. Most places are eager to show the game's scantily clad women, but these scenes are so rare, and in some cases so difficult to achieve, that you might as well assume they don't exist. Secondly, after showcasing the non-existent porn, most places are likely to talk about the game's brutally difficult strategy battles. Except, while they do technically exist, most of your time will be spent unravelling the feverish nightmare that is the guild system. In reality Agarest is all about administration.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

you'd think they could at least get the naked anime girls right

i feel like that would be the easiest part

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



kirbysuperstar posted:

Don't you say anything bad about 80 hours of Evangelion fanfiction the latter half of which is spewed to you by a dude in a chair

You're being insulting to Xenogears by comparing it to garbage like Eva.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Cake Attack posted:

you'd think they could at least get the naked anime girls right

i feel like that would be the easiest part

To shed some light, there's a LOT of DLC in the "Have 1 million GP, 10,000 TP, and all these powerful items." variety in the games. Agarest 1 is worse in this regard because it's loving TIMED. the PC release at least made it so you could grind out in the dungeons but good loving god the game is ridiculously cruel and is DLC hell.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
Look at all these goons arguing about SRPGs and tactical games and not one of them actually named the best strategy game ever made:
http://www.gog.com/game/master_of_magic

Go drop $3 on it and forget about the other games people have mentioned (ok some Fire Emblem games aren't completely tedious bullshit (sometimes)).

kirbysuperstar posted:

Not really, unless you look at XCOM or Valkyria Chronicles.

Or, God fuckin' help your soul, Agarest War. Don't play Agarest War.

Alternately: Get shitfaced and play Record of Anime Dating Sim War.
Don't play Agarest War

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



The limited edition for Agarest War 2 comes with an mini inflatable elf girl, a hand towel and a porn mag disguised as a book of heroic tales.

Don't play Agarest War

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

TARDISman posted:

mini inflatable elf girl, a hand towel and a porn mag disguised as a book of heroic tales.

hahaha this has to be bullshit.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


I'm pretty sure that's the best joke christmas gift ever.

Attitude Indicator
Apr 3, 2009

Vandal Hearts for the ps1 is good, fairly similar to FFT.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Attitude Indicator posted:

Vandal Hearts for the ps1 is good, fairly similar to FFT.

Especially if you skeletons that gush fire-hose pressure geysers of blood.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Attitude Indicator posted:

Vandal Hearts for the ps1 is good, fairly similar to FFT.

How can any game with a resemblance to Final Fantasy be good?

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Roobanguy posted:

hahaha this has to be bullshit.



My bad, it was an inflatable furry, the elf girl was on the hand towel.

Attitude Indicator
Apr 3, 2009

Aurain posted:

How can any game with a resemblance to Final Fantasy be good?

kirbysuperstar posted:

Especially if you skeletons that gush fire-hose pressure geysers of blood.



but seriously, it doesn't have as much customization as FFt but tactics are more important, having the highground, where to position your characters, which caracthere fights which enemy, different goals to winning a battle. it's good poo poo.

Attitude Indicator fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Nov 14, 2014

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

TARDISman posted:



My bad, it was an inflatable furry, the elf girl was on the hand towel.

burn it all to the ground

Looper
Mar 1, 2012

The GIG posted:

Also is not the same as the Forums Poster Mega64.

Wait hold on what the gently caress

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Sakurazuka posted:

That's like... what Mega64 got famous for doing, have you never watched their older videos? The one with the merchant from RE4 was the best.

It was good, but this was better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToCANOyg-tY

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
I recommend Hoshigami which is an excellent game for excellent dudes.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!

Pureauthor posted:

I recommend Hoshigami which is an excellent game for excellent dudes.

Why would you say this? Someone might believe you. Could you live with that on your conscience?

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Looper posted:

Wait hold on what the gently caress

For the record, I'm not one of the guys from Mega64. I was online friends with Rocco for a long time back in the late 90's/early 00's, and he decided to use my name for the show because I'm a wonderful person. Poque (who also posts on these forums) and Marcus on the show were also named after online friends of ours.

I eagerly await the inevitable FF15 road trip video from them.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Attitude Indicator posted:



but seriously, it doesn't have as much customization as FFt but tactics are more important, having the highground, where to position your characters, which caracthere fights which enemy, different goals to winning a battle. it's good poo poo.

Vandal Hearts is great an probably the first SRPG I ever played, hardest part is dealing with there being no random battles so you have to work at your tactics and trying to make sure that people don't fall behind the levelling curve at the same time.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

NikkolasKing posted:

You're being insulting to Xenogears by comparing it to garbage like Eva.

I am going to kick your rear end bub

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon
I don't know how you guys can talk about tactical CRPG's and not mention Banner Saga. It's not nearly as deep gameplay-wise as FFT or Tactics Ogre (or even Front Mission) but it's beautifully presented and has a cool non-linear story.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

bloodychill posted:

I don't know how you guys can talk about tactical CRPG's and not mention Banner Saga. It's not nearly as deep gameplay-wise as FFT or Tactics Ogre (or even Front Mission) but it's beautifully presented and has a cool non-linear story.

The game has to be done, first.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Onmi posted:

Pretty much this, I beat Zero because... well I will see that poo poo to the loving end, and Zero contains basically Game 1 in Digest form (All the plot events, none of the random battles, good end only.) and it was just... I can't imagine doing that without all the grinding and extra poo poo cut out.

Part 3 though did feature a legitimately likable protagonist, not that any of them are particularly 'bad' it's just that most of them are bland as hell.

Now the fact that the games combat system is just... you know what?

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/kusoge/kusoge01.htm

It's all summed up there but as a teaser

Sylphid's LP of Agarest 2 made the game tolerable, but I could not watch the boss fight videos from beginning to end. Like you know how most optional bosses boil down too a test of endurance once you learn to not get insta-gibbed? You just have to patiently follow a pattern, whittle down their HP and win? In Agarest 2, EVERY loving BOSS is that sort of boss.
Speaking of that LP, since Goons Are Assholes, and Idiot Fuckers can't do game design to save their life, the thread selected that the MC should be punching and gun based. The best weapon in the game, weldable only by the MC's lineage is a Greatsword.

The game had some good moments and fun characters, but the hoops it makes people jump through is ridiculous. When Ar Tonelico is better than your game in pretty much every way, while being less skeevy to boot...well I guess you work at IF. Goondolences.

TARDISman posted:



My bad, it was an inflatable furry, the elf girl was on the hand towel.

This is hilarious and has a degree of self-awareness. The game itself has neither of those things.

Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Nov 14, 2014

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon

Tae posted:

The game has to be done, first.

Eh, the first story works on its own provided you know there will be two sequels.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

My friend bought Agarest War and his wife just kept taking the hugpillow out and laughing at it constantly and showing it to all her friends.

What I'm saying is Agarest War is the secret to a long and healthy marriage.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

bloodychill posted:

Eh, the first story works on its own provided you know there will be two sequels.

So it doesn't work on its own at all then. Cool.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Endorph posted:

My friend bought Agarest War and his wife just kept taking the hugpillow out and laughing at it constantly and showing it to all her friends.

What I'm saying is Agarest War is the secret to a long and healthy marriage.

and yet when i go out in public with my dakimakura all I get are stares and derision

unfair

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Aurain posted:

I'm pretty sure that's the best joke christmas gift ever.

Nothing can top the Agarest War limited edition for the 360:
http://www.amazon.com/Record-Agarest-Limited-Edition-360-Xbox/dp/B00354NBF4

Just let those physical goods register in your mind.

Yes, that's a mouse pad with gel breasts for your wrist to sit on. (I suspect most people who bought it had other ideas :stonk:)

Sakurazuka posted:

Vandal Hearts is great an probably the first SRPG I ever played, hardest part is dealing with there being no random battles so you have to work at your tactics and trying to make sure that people don't fall behind the levelling curve at the same time.

I thought Vandal Hearts had random battles, and that it was Vagrant Story that didn't?

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Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Evil Fluffy posted:

Yes, that's a mouse pad with gel breasts for your wrist to sit on. (I suspect most people who bought it had other ideas :stonk:)

To be fair, that's probably considerably more enjoyable than the game itself.


Cake Attack posted:

and yet when i go out in public with my dakimakura all I get are stares and derision

unfair

And I learned a new word today. Thank you forum user Cake Attack. Now I too can disgust my friends and disappoint my parents.

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