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If you want to be truly depressed try listening to the commentary for the Half-Life games sometime. They're basically full of 'Well, we had a much more elaborate setup here, but playtesters got confused so we made it more streamlined'
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Ddraig posted:We have a generation of people defeated by a barrel. I wouldn't get your hopes up that they're capable of the kind of things you're on about, sadly. Defeated by a barrel? What game is this?
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Nov 16, 2014 01:38
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Evil Mastermind posted:Defeated by a barrel? What game is this?
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Nov 16, 2014 01:39
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Deakul posted:But, I want to be a dragon. There's always the option of helping me greenlight this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=187281725  Though to be fair, it's more "stoner simulator" than "dragon simulator"
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Nov 16, 2014 01:41
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Ddraig posted:If you want to be truly depressed try listening to the commentary for the Half-Life games sometime. They're basically full of 'Well, we had a much more elaborate setup here, but playtesters got confused so we made it more streamlined' the average person is really bad at games. just watch someone play a video game that isnt a huge internet nerd like us. i've seen guys die repeatedly against single enemies in assassins creed
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Nov 16, 2014 01:43
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Dragonite was a pretty cool Pokemon. I like dragons. My favorite dragon is the Sean Connery dragon.
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Evil Mastermind posted:Defeated by a barrel? What game is this? In Sonic 3 you will find a barrel. This immovable object is defeated by pressing and holding down. Generations of nerds never, ever got past this because they lacked the basic faculties to think "Why don't I try all the buttons here and see if anything works?' There are stories of people repeatedly jumping in time to force the barrel down etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRpHwR-Gi94
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Nov 16, 2014 01:45
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Pretty much anyone who plays games has a story like that though, something that's easy in retrospect but just never occurred to you. Are you really going to claim you never once missed something obvious while playing a game
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:It's great because it encourages you to explore not just the environment, but the game itself. Accordion Man posted:Casino Night Zone in Sonic 2. To be fair I'm not sure much else in Sonic 3 works the way it does. IIRC you have to just stand on it and move with the d-pad, whereas jumping doesn't work but feels like it does. edit: this will teach me not to watch the video before posting
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Ddraig posted:If you want to be truly depressed try listening to the commentary for the Half-Life games sometime. They're basically full of 'Well, we had a much more elaborate setup here, but playtesters got confused so we made it more streamlined' My favorite is the tester who got stuck in a level by continuously turning left, over and over again, basically running around in a circle for thirty minutes
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Hog Inspector posted:Pretty much anyone who plays games has a story like that though, something that's easy in retrospect but just never occurred to you. Are you really going to claim you never once missed something obvious while playing a game I admit that there have been certain mechanics in games that I never really bothered using or even know existed (the mako cannon zoom in Mass Effect is one of them) but these were largely things that were completely unnecessary to begin with. I can't fathom how people could be stumped by the barrel. There's what, 12 inputs max on a genesis pad? You could try all of them in less than a minute maybe.
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Nov 16, 2014 01:51
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Ddraig posted:I can't fathom how people could be stumped by the barrel. There's what, 12 inputs max on a genesis pad? You could try all of them in less than a minute maybe. I constantly see videos of people playing games going "WHY CAN'T I SHOOT, HOW DO I SHOOT" when it's literally one of the face buttons. Some people, man.
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Nov 16, 2014 01:53
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Ddraig posted:If you want to be truly depressed try listening to the commentary for the Half-Life games sometime. They're basically full of 'Well, we had a much more elaborate setup here, but playtesters got confused so we made it more streamlined' The best was a commentary in the first Portal where the dev claimed that a play tester got a fuckin' nosebleed because of a head on block collision in game. Or the trash can in HL2 that spits your grenades back at you.
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I played an hour or so of Sleeping Dogs, and you gotta have a controller for this. I don't. Also, its super easy to get killed by punches, which annoys me.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:The last DBZ fighting game I played was Burst Limit 2 on the 360 and that was a refinement of the Tenkaichi formula. You could customize the moves each individual character could have, so theortically you could do a mirror match with someone and both characters can be completely different. I loved that game. Pretty much the last two DBZ games have been lovely. Ultimate Tenkaichi was a massive letdown since it was rock-paper-scissors the game and the character creation let you be a saiyan and nothing else. I've yet to play Battle of Z but I've heard it sucked. But still Raging Blast 2 was a good fighting game in the style of the Budokai Tenkaichi series and that was only three games ago, no reason why those last two games were an aberration.
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HogX posted:I played an hour or so of Sleeping Dogs, and you gotta have a controller for this. I don't. Also, its super easy to get killed by punches, which annoys me. Well, you're no Batman. But who is?
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Well, you're no Batman. But who is? Batman, probably.
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HogX posted:I played an hour or so of Sleeping Dogs, and you gotta have a controller for this. I don't. Also, its super easy to get killed by punches, which annoys me. The thing about Sleeping Dogs combat is that it's a lot slower than you think it should be. I had to really slow down my button pressing and watch the animations in order to get the combos and actually kill people effectively.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Well, you're no Batman. But who is?
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Drifter posted:The thing about Sleeping Dogs combat is that it's a lot slower than you think it should be. I had to really slow down my button pressing and watch the animations in order to get the combos and actually kill people effectively. Accordion Man fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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HogX posted:Batman, probably. Batman is the Goddamn Batman. I'm not sure there is a regular Batman.
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Ddraig posted:In Sonic 3 you will find a barrel. This immovable object is defeated by pressing and holding down. This one isn't quite fair because of the way the barrel reacts to an incorrect strategy -- you jump on the thing, it sinks down. You jump up higher, it sinks down further when you land. I remember it felt like if we just got the timing or the jump height down, the barrel would fall down far enough to get to the next part of the stage. Why would you try pressing other buttons when you're presented with what seems like a jumping puzzle?
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Speaking of Batman, I'm really one the fence of this Batman/Marvel Lego game bundle, but I've never played a Lego game before. Just not sure how well they'd hold my interest.
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If after 5 minutes it wasn't working I might try to adapt a different strategy. Probably after two minutes, really. Some people mentioned them trying for hours
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Speaking of Batman, I'm really one the fence of this Batman/Marvel Lego game bundle, but I've never played a Lego game before. Just not sure how well they'd hold my interest. Marvel Superheroes is great fun. I enjoyed the original Batman but I haven't put much into Batman 2. Batman is from when they only had the one small hub instead of a large city to explore so it's much smaller scale.
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Ddraig posted:If after 5 minutes it wasn't working I might try to adapt a different strategy. Probably after two minutes, really. Some people mentioned them trying for hours Whoever did that needs this done to them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EglOsfErtaE
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Tutorials are a good thing in games. The best tutorials are intuitive and invisible, the sort that don't let you continue unless you learn the concept at hand. This is good game design. I'll always take a very visible tutorial over an unintuitive and unexplained game mechanic that you can only learn by reading a wiki. That is bad game design.
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I appreciate a quick tutorial if the game does something different with the control scheme or to point out stuff that's not immediately obvious.
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I've never played Super Metroid until recently and got stuck on the noob bridge. I felt pretty cool when I googled it and found out I had to sprint to get across, and that I had a sprint button at all. I've beaten hundreds of games in my life.
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That Humble Jumbo Bundle has shown me the untold pleasures of Euro Truck Simulator 2. There is no going back now. Especially after missing my ramp and turning into it at 90kmh to stay on the path.
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Znae posted:I've never played Super Metroid until recently and got stuck on the noob bridge. I felt pretty cool when I googled it and found out I had to sprint to get across, and that I had a sprint button at all. It's never too late to play Super Metroid
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Nov 16, 2014 03:12
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How's This War Of Mine, looks really cool?
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Jamfrost posted:That Humble Jumbo Bundle has shown me the untold pleasures of Euro Truck Simulator 2. There is no going back now. Especially after missing my ramp and turning into it at 90kmh to stay on the path. I would've bet money against someone telling me that I would spend at least 6 hours video game trucking for no good reason. I would've lost that bet. 
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Mr. Crow posted:How's This War Of Mine, looks really cool? I think it's pretty awesome, personally. We talked about it a bit at the bottom of the last page, which somehow segued into the discussion about tutorials.
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Mr. Crow posted:How's This War Of Mine, looks really cool? I just finished playing it for hours and actually wrote my first ever steam review because it's so great. You really feel like you're surviving and not just upgrading things until you're some sort of badass, it's got genuine tough choices that emerge from what you're doing, like the ever more enticing prospect of just bullying and robbing the defenceless as you slowly starve or die from cold, also it's depressing as gently caress and bleak and that's cool. I really felt pushed to doing terrible things as the situation got more desperate, it's the first survival game that I feel has gotten it right and there's not a zombie in sight.
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The White Dragon posted:There's always the option of helping me greenlight this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=187281725 this didnt get greenlit yet?  rude
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Nov 16, 2014 04:27
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Morter posted:I would've bet money against someone telling me that I would spend at least 6 hours video game trucking for no good reason. The hardest part about it is that I tell people how awesome that game is and they all think I'm trolling them. Though the few friends I have gotten to play it enjoy it.
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WYA posted:Is Valkyria Chronicles good at all? As in the quality of the port or just as a game? Because it's good on both accounts. There's a fair bit of tonal dissonance at times but the game is a fun strategy title that there aren't very many like out there on the market.
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If I have Shadowrun Returns with the Dragonfall expansion installed, do I need to download the Director's Cut of Dragonfall separately or will the one I have installed update itself to the new version?
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