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Internet Kraken posted:Why do people hate Pin? He's so easy and doesn't take long to beat either. Right? This is the first I'm hearing of people not thinking Pin is the easiest boss in the game. You literally just stand at the bottom and he criss cross jumps at 5 miles per hour while you shoot him.
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drunken officeparty posted:Right? This is the first I'm hearing of people not thinking Pin is the easiest boss in the game. You literally just stand at the bottom and he criss cross jumps at 5 miles per hour while you shoot him. And then he explodes when he's not even to the end of his life bar.
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drunken officeparty posted:Right? This is the first I'm hearing of people not thinking Pin is the easiest boss in the game. You literally just stand at the bottom and he criss cross jumps at 5 miles per hour while you shoot him. I didn't realize it was possible to have trouble with Scolex or Pin. The Haunt is pretty easy too if you just pay attention to his tells.
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Nov 16, 2014 05:34
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Manatee Cannon posted:The bosses that worry me are the Dark one and the Adversary. Whenever I get a double trouble of either I die a little inside. The Dark One isnt so bad, but the Adversary is a bitch. Double him up and good luck sucker. But he doesnt annoy me as much as the Bloat, like if I die to him I'm like ok, he's just a tough boss. But the Bloat I'm tearing my hair out because I should have seen it coming. I did just beat the Chest with the Lost though, legit. It was a bitch of a time and I died in the boss rush, but dead cat from a random red chest in cellar 2 was the reason I won basically.
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Nov 16, 2014 05:36
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Alabaster White posted:I didn't realize it was possible to have trouble with Scolex or Pin. The Haunt is pretty easy too if you just pay attention to his tells. Haunt has a tell for when he spits a dozen bullets in a fan pattern? That's the only part that gives me any issue unless I don't have any kind of offense and the double ghosts gently caress me over.
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Nov 16, 2014 05:38
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I can't figure out why "R U A Wizard" is considered a good pill, it blows. Just ruined a good run because I popped a random pill and it turned out to be that one...
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Nov 16, 2014 05:38
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Diabetes By Sundown posted:I can't figure out why "R U A Wizard" is considered a good pill, it blows. Just ruined a good run because I popped a random pill and it turned out to be that one... It's considered a neutral pill, like puberty.
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Nov 16, 2014 05:39
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Diabetes By Sundown posted:I can't figure out why "R U A Wizard" is considered a good pill, it blows. Just ruined a good run because I popped a random pill and it turned out to be that one... On the bright side, it does wear off so unless it immediately got you killed it shouldn't really be a run ruiner.
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Nov 16, 2014 05:40
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Alabaster White posted:I didn't realize it was possible to have trouble with Scolex or Pin. The Haunt is pretty easy too if you just pay attention to his tells. Scolex is a pain since you can only harm his tail, which makes it take forever to kill him, especially if he doesn't stick it up very often.
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Diabetes By Sundown posted:I can't figure out why "R U A Wizard" is considered a good pill, it blows. Just ruined a good run because I popped a random pill and it turned out to be that one... It's temporary
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Diabetes By Sundown posted:I can't figure out why "R U A Wizard" is considered a good pill, it blows. Just ruined a good run because I popped a random pill and it turned out to be that one... FYI it times out after like 30 seconds or something, so just sit in a room and wait for it to expire. dis astranagant posted:Haunt has a tell for when he spits a dozen bullets in a fan pattern? That's the only part that gives me any issue unless I don't have any kind of offense and the double ghosts gently caress me over. If you just strafe back and forth at the back of the room you can outrun the bullets. The only thing you need to watch out for is running too close to the wall and getting hit by his brimstone. Either way he's a fucker that takes way too long to kill and can really punish you if you slip up. I think the Widow is more likely to damage me but Widow is actually fun to fight so I don't hate him. Haunt is a waste of my time.
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drunken officeparty posted:Right? This is the first I'm hearing of people not thinking Pin is the easiest boss in the game. You literally just stand at the bottom and he criss cross jumps at 5 miles per hour while you shoot him. The other thing that makes Pin easy is when he stands up forever to launch a single exploding bullet. After that, he's guaranteed to jump toward you from that spot, so all told you get a huge window to pelt him with a ton of tears.
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The Cellar just kinda sucks because it takes way longer.
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i had the worst run of my life today. doing the dead cat lost glitch, first i had to restart at least 100 times (i started tracking after a while) without finding a cat. when i finally find one i do not get a single damage item the whole run. i also get only a single key, which i promptly lose to one of those key blocks that was right next to the door, before sheol. during sheol 12 keys drop, and after that 3 key doubling cards and i ended up with 56 keys and nothing to use them on. the whole run took me 1 long, painful hour. next time i try boss rush and the chest...
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Nov 16, 2014 05:46
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13/f/cali posted:On the bright side, it does wear off so unless it immediately got you killed it shouldn't really be a run ruiner. Does it wear off over a set period of time, or is it by rooms cleared? Logan 5 posted:The Dark One isnt so bad, but the Adversary is a bitch. Double him up and good luck sucker. But he doesnt annoy me as much as the Bloat, like if I die to him I'm like ok, he's just a tough boss. But the Bloat I'm tearing my hair out because I should have seen it coming. I can't even see the Dark One when he dims the lights. Have the same problem with spiders during the curse of darkness.
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Nov 16, 2014 05:56
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Manatee Cannon posted:Does it wear off over a set period of time, or is it by rooms cleared? I've had it wear off in the middle of a room and I believe without having cleared any rooms so you should be able to just wait it out. It wouldn't surprise me if it were related to shots fired but I believe it is timed.
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Nov 16, 2014 06:00
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Davincie posted:i had the worst run of my life today. doing the dead cat lost glitch, first i had to restart at least 100 times (i started tracking after a while) without finding a cat. when i finally find one i do not get a single damage item the whole run. i also get only a single key, which i promptly lose to one of those key blocks that was right next to the door, before sheol. during sheol 12 keys drop, and after that 3 key doubling cards and i ended up with 56 keys and nothing to use them on. the whole run took me 1 long, painful hour. next time i try boss rush and the chest... Didn't that glitch get patched?
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Full Battle Rattle posted:
This happened to me today. I held down r asap. Manatee Cannon posted:Does it wear off over a set period of time, or is it by rooms cleared? I just had a good Lost run end from a Dark One. I blame the punching bag I had though, he had been focusing on that so I was lil'brimstoning him away and then bam, he fire straight at me instead. I turned my gamma way up, I got sick of not actually seeing anything Logan 5 fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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Full Battle Rattle posted:
Man you might have had a good run there. Krampus' head as Lost is pretty huge letting you obliterate bosses and troublesome rooms, plus you get Krampus out of the way early and all future devil deals will be the real thing. Krampus really doesn't have that much HP so beating him with base damage is feasible.
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Nov 16, 2014 06:13
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Beat Suicide King on my first try. No big deal, smirk smirk smug smug. Ok but seriously, I got three Guppy items and Dark Bum and still barely scraped through. Isaac is really not a good boss to fight with that loadout.
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Nov 16, 2014 06:13
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Manatee Cannon posted:Just found Abaddon in a devil room for the first time and holy poo poo is it a fantastic item for Azazel. Abaddon's great for Azazel, but it's perfect for Eve.
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Head Trauma challenge + Dr Fetus  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VpY7o2mX7s
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Full Battle Rattle posted:
Why would you quit over a chance to get a damage boost or one of the best spacebar items in the game? 
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Manatee Cannon posted:I can't even see the Dark One when he dims the lights. Have the same problem with spiders during the curse of darkness. I can see him no problem, but that's probably because I turned the brightness up to 130 due to darkness curses. And, yeah, the Cellar's big issue is that everything is way to strong for being the first or second level especially the spiders. You can do near-perfectly and then still take damage because it takes way too long to work though big spiders. I better have some really good item that can potentially carry a run or some floor-nuking item I will reset if I get a 2x2 room of spiders because gently caress that poo poo. Cellar bosses are a joke though. Pin's fine because I quickly figured out "stand at bottom, dodge left or right" and he hits me maybe once for three fights. Scolex is just an annoying Pin due to the whole "only his tail is vulnerable" but the same trick works on him. The Haunt I only have two problems with: the double 'Lil Haunt and the way he snaps/pops around when you hit him with a status effect. Other than that it's just "sit, wait, win" for me. The Cellar bosses are annoying, but I don't mind them. The boss I really hate is Mask of Infamy. There are bosses I find harder and I respect or fear them. Mask? I simply hate him with a searing passion.
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13/f/cali posted:I've had it wear off in the middle of a room and I believe without having cleared any rooms so you should be able to just wait it out. It wouldn't surprise me if it were related to shots fired but I believe it is timed. the wizard pill is definitely just time-based. has nothing to do with shots or rooms cleared.
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Alabaster White posted:The Haunt is pretty easy too if you just pay attention to his tells. The real boss fight is the two little ghosts at once phase. The thing that comes after that is just a victory lap.
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Internet Kraken posted:Why would you quit over a chance to get a damage boost or one of the best spacebar items in the game? I didn't really 'let' him so much as that's what 'happened immediately', should have clarified
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Is there any site out there that has exact number values for the HP all the enemies/bosses have, even if it's just for the original version of the game?
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AnonSpore posted:The real boss fight is the two little ghosts at once phase. The thing that comes after that is just a victory lap. A victory lap that takes too much time and can still chip away at your health. But yeah, the two-haunt stage is the real dangerous part. Absolutely magical when you see him on later rooms when you can just nuke the fucker. Ditto with Pin. One of my favorite moments was the Slow Roll challenge when I watched an attack fly one-shot Pin.
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Alkydere posted:The boss I really hate is Mask of Infamy. There are bosses I find harder and I respect or fear them. Mask? I simply hate him with a searing passion. Mask of Infamy is the worst. Just the absolute worst. Either you don't have piercing tears and you have to chase his second form around forever or you do and he's a complete pushover. Neither outcome is satisfying. He's just a completely terrible boss and I hate seeing him.
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Oxxidation posted:Beat Suicide King on my first try. No big deal, smirk smirk smug smug. Oh Christ, that one goes all the way to the Cathedral? I guess the best hope is getting Mom's Knife or Brimstone early. It'd certainly speed things along, anyway. I'm glad Solar System only went to the Heart, but if I hadn't gotten a Bible before the Depths, I don't think I would've ever beaten it. I think I must've fought about 30 god drat mini Masks of Infamy. 
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I think it's pretty telling that the Dark Room, which has potentially heinous rooms like 2x Cage, 2x Adversary, and all four horsemen at once, can have just a single Haunt in the room instead. gently caress the Haunt, my hatred it for burns like a nuclear fire.
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Kooriken posted:Bloat is just an rear end in a top hat no matter what. Not your fault you got hit by one of the 500 bullshit ways he could kill you. Now that I've done the boss rush with most of the characters I'm pretty used to fighting the Bloat in that room. I found that it works really well to stay behind the 2x2 rock formation north of where he spawns. He can't jump over rocks so it is possible to keep him stuck on those rocks and just whittle him down, watching out for his 8-way shots and flying eyes. Unfortunately if you get Champion Bloat he might destroy the rocks with his ipecac shots.
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Kooriken posted:Mask of Infamy is the worst. Just the absolute worst. Either you don't have piercing tears and you have to chase his second form around forever or you do and he's a complete pushover. Neither outcome is satisfying. He's just a completely terrible boss and I hate seeing him. It's really subtle but Mask of Infamy's speed is slightly higher when it is in chase mode, and if you get out of the way of its chase then it has to keep going until it hits an obstacle. Making sure to be in its line of sight when it does so and turns around practically guarantees it will immediately launch another chase, enabling you to keep pounding it with tears risk-free so long as you get the setup started and don't slip up and let it out of the loop.
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well, another good The Lost run failed but this time due to mega fatty's instant buttstomp i had like 5 speed up pills on me and i was circling yet i still couldn't avoid him
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His stomp doesn't seem to care about how fast you are because its basically instant. You just have to be far enough away from him that he can't use it, otherwise you're always at risk of getting hit. So of course there are rooms filled with multiple mega fatties later on and not enough space between them to avoid the slams.
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Just had a run where I immediately got burning laser orbiting tears. Pretty cool I thought! Yeah I'm set! Then I got Curse of Darkness and the game just loving broke. For whatever reason with that combination the Vita is unable to render my shots so the only way I could tell if I was hitting anything was if fire procced. And while the darkness on a Vita is tough enough that combination also made the screen flash a crazy combination of orange and white every other shot. I stumbled into a room packed with rocks, explosives, and those heart & mask things and I could't tell what the gently caress was going on. Dead.
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AnonSpore posted:The real boss fight is the two little ghosts at once phase. The thing that comes after that is just a victory lap. They are incredibly obnoxious with base damage as anyone other than Azazel, who chumps them (and most other things). So long as you have bombs, the Haunt itself is a breeze since it gets stuck on them and can't avoid the damage.
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