Avshalom posted:

leather fedora posted:

And coincidentally, ZUN just tweeted about his contribution to the Caravan, "Danmaku Amanojaku (ISC) Gold Rush": https://twitter.com/korindo/status/533502892678733824

It'll feature a 10th cheat item that "destroys bullets" so it'll probably be heavy on bullet-cancelling. Also, he says it was meant to be an easy game made purely for score attacking.

WarpedNaba posted:

It's got Marisa front and centre and it's focused on ghosts.

Bones, feeling, etc.

WarpedNaba posted:

Too many nerds preferred Byakuren's idle animation the gripping single-player plot, methinks.

a cartoon duck posted:

Either way I'm glad toilet hand ghosts will finally be represented in 2hu

HGH posted:

Basically HM killed Touhou netplay. What was left of it anyway.

Terry van Feleday posted:

How good are the fighting games, anyway? Like, from both a casual and a competitive perspective. I've been kinda interested in them because their button inputs seem easier to understand than most examples of the genre.

animatorZed posted:

Checking in with the monthly reminder that IaMP is better than <insert currently discussed game here>.

Short combos, pressure strings with bullet cancels and high jump cancels are open ended and varied, the best dash input scheme, one of the best / most interesting meter systems with the spirit bar (recharges quickly, opponents can do direct damage too it, is utilized by nearly everything) that forces a really interesting pacing to matches, first of the caster netplay games to get rollback based netcode.

Ground combos are usually very short. Most bnb's and high damage combos are based on situational air to air setups, and one of the primary goal of pressure strings and ground hits is to try and set up these situations instead of directly opening up for damage.
Best "burst" like mechanic. Rechargeable bombs act like bursts, but only at neutral (eg: GG blue burst), during a combo (eg: gold burst), or during blockstun. Cannot burst out of hit. Regaining bombs requires points earned by cancelling opponent bullets or knockdowns.

Bullet / graze system forms an entirely different core gameplay loop than the traditional attack/block/throw system that every other game uses.
Bullet cancel system, and the projectile / graze focus makes the actual pace of making decisions very high compared to many games, even though most normals are on average slower than most games.

Most importantly, it has by far the most satisfying and infuriating counterhit noise and particle effect. Guaranteed to instill absolute rage in your opponent.


Minor problem in that trying to get into the game now against the few people still playing will make you feel like you, your family, and any future children yet to be born were brutally murdered. Eh, details.
And like most anime-ish games, the girl with the sword is an rear end in a top hat (though not top tier).

Ultima66 posted:

SWR originally was really really lovely. Weather sucked, the dash out of blockstun mechanic was horrible for gameplay, lots of things were very broken, etc. It was like Brawl to IaMP as Melee. Soku and later patches addressed a lot of problems, kind of like Project M did for Brawl, but that doesn't keep IaMP/Melee from being the much better game overall.

Also I have to say the level of customization in SWR is just terrible for a fighting game in general. It's akin to the gem system fro SFxT but even more egregious. Your super meter was spent on cards that are drawn from a deck you create before the match, and the decks are unique for every character. I think any amount of customization you can't perform at character select screen is generally a really bad idea. Also getting supers at random and the pseudo-random weather system where every few seconds the rules of the match completely change is pretty lovely for a fighting game honestly.

Gils posted:

I'm not seeing that at all in the graph you posted? There's a steady decline in 12.3 over time, but 13.5 doesn't seem to have any effect on the small playerbase that was still around.

HGH posted:

Reading that IaMP is better is a bit confusing. I mean, Soku just feels like it handles better all around. As for randomness, I don't see what's so wrong with having to adapt on the fly. I mean, it's not tripping or anything since both players still have control. But I'm not the fighting game pro so what the hell do I know? I'm just glad to play it with some friends every now and then.

ikaragu posted:

I think that SWR has more input leniency, which does make it friendlier for inexperienced players but at best won't make a difference to serious fighting game players, and at worst can mean that it'll read special moves that they didn't intend. I don't think that's a complaint I've heard about it specifically, although that might just be because there are other things to complain about first. (A deckbuilding system with randomly unlocked cards! In a fighting game!)

BlitzBlast posted:

Also it has the worst arrange of Night Falls in existence.

HGH posted:

That makes a lot of sense I guess. Or rather I should have seen things from a better perspective. Ah well, at least I learned something.

I never did understand why they rushed the hell out of HM. Money maybe? It was basically horribly unfinished. It's not like Comiket was that far from Reitaisai either.
Could its netplay issues be fixed/partially alleviated by some third party program or am I misunderstanding the situation?

ikaragu posted:

I guess the numbering also confirms that a Touhou 14.8 is being planned, or at least planned before a Touhou 15.

HGH posted: