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razorscooter
Nov 5, 2008


There was this shot of a car under a tarp at SEMA:


http://www.autoblog.com/2014/11/04/ford-mustang-king-cobra-spy-sema-2014/

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Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



Oh, that's a SEMA concept car, nevermind.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


It's a FRP parts bin thing and it's really, really terrible.

http://wot.motortrend.com/1411_2015_ford_mustang_king_cobra_bows_at_sema_with_600_hp.html

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin



:what:

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

What in the gently caress is up with those wheels? :gonk:

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

SouthLAnd posted:

What in the gently caress is up with those wheels? :gonk:

The fact that they're beadlocks, or the fact that they're fancypants beadlocks?

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗
Passed a car hauler this morning with 5 new GTs on it. God drat that's a sexy car.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
I have to make myself not go to the Ford dealership. I know if I step foot on the property, I'll end up with a '15 in my driveway and supremely pissed off wife. That said, I've convinced myself to wait a year before getting one due to first year new gen issues that plague every car.

The Midniter
Jul 9, 2001

SouthLAnd posted:

What in the gently caress is up with those wheels? :gonk:

It's for when you want to drag race and also make a pie later.

Count Freebasie
Jan 12, 2006

SouthLAnd posted:

What in the gently caress is up with those wheels? :gonk:

Looks like Pep Boys hubcaps on cheater slicks. Gross.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Any soft top experts? Google hasn't been much help.

Girlfriend's 2002 convertible is leaking pretty badly. When I pour water onto this spot:



Most of it comes in and collects where the soft top lays down. Some of it falls to the floor near the rear wheel. This is happening on both sides of the top.





No obvious damage to the top. If we fold it down 1/4, I can feel and poke my fingers around a whole bunch of overlapping pieces of fabric just to the right of the red arrow. I guess a seal broke someplace in there.

Anyone seen anything like this? Is taking the top off and finding the broken seal likely the next step? How much of a pain is that?

kalvick
Jun 5, 2001
I admit I dont know anything about verts but would a blob of silicone around the glass / fabric fix it?

I looked over at stangnet.com and saw this. let me know if this helps. http://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/threads/convertible-leaking-problems-arg.798615/
or this.... http://mustangforums.com/forum/convertible-tech/515886-how-to-fix-a-leak-in-a-1999-2004-mustang-vert.html

BJA
Apr 11, 2006

It has to start somewhere
It has to start sometime
What better place than here
What better time than now
So I'm going to look at a winter vehicle tomorrow, and I was curious on Stang owners opinions, the SUV i'm going to look at is a 4.0 I6 2002 Grand Cherokee. It's a car fax 1 owner, with 66k miles. pretty low miles for a 12 year old car. But I was wondering if I wouldn't be better off looking for newer (2005+) with higher mileage in the same price range? I have found a couple of Liberty's and Escapes around that price, but 2007/2008ish with 95+ thousand miles.

mechaet
Jan 4, 2013

Insufferable measure of firewood

BJA posted:

So I'm going to look at a winter vehicle tomorrow, and I was curious on Stang owners opinions, the SUV i'm going to look at is a 4.0 I6 2002 Grand Cherokee. It's a car fax 1 owner, with 66k miles. pretty low miles for a 12 year old car. But I was wondering if I wouldn't be better off looking for newer (2005+) with higher mileage in the same price range? I have found a couple of Liberty's and Escapes around that price, but 2007/2008ish with 95+ thousand miles.

Ohgod not the Liberty; that I6 is damned-near bulletproof, get that thing.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
The I6 4.0 will just about run gravel in the cylinder heads. Extremely hard to kill. Get the Grand. I loved mine. Gas mileage sucks, but hard to complain about that and drive a Mustang.

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

Liberty's and escapes are trash. I'd take an i6 jeep over those easily.

shodanjr_gr
Nov 20, 2007
I'm about to roll around to 25,000k easy going miles on the stock pirelli p-zeros (255/40/ZR19) that came with my 2012 V6 Performance Package.

I'm looking for a reasonably priced, long-lasting all-season tire to change over to. What's the goon recommendation?

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



I tore the caliper piston boot on my rear right caliper on a 13 GT. The book says pop a new caliper on.



Do I need to clamp off hoses or anything? Or are those the entire steps?

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

shodanjr_gr posted:

I'm about to roll around to 25,000k easy going miles on the stock pirelli p-zeros (255/40/ZR19) that came with my 2012 V6 Performance Package.

I'm looking for a reasonably priced, long-lasting all-season tire to change over to. What's the goon recommendation?
Michelin A/S 3

shodanjr_gr
Nov 20, 2007

ilkhan posted:

Michelin A/S 3

Anything cheaper? Tirerack puts those at 1 grand for a set of four.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

shodanjr_gr posted:

Anything cheaper? Tirerack puts those at 1 grand for a set of four.
:shrug:

vote_no
Nov 22, 2005

The rush is on.

shodanjr_gr posted:

Anything cheaper? Tirerack puts those at 1 grand for a set of four.

I liked Continental's Extreme Contact DWS, but now that I have a set of snow tires for winter I don't think I'll ever go back to all seasons. If the snow tires are any indication, people weren't kidding about "all-season" tires being "no-season" tires. The summer wheels are getting summer tires as soon as the stock all-seasons die.

Sheeple
Nov 1, 2011

Bumming Your Scene posted:

I tore the caliper piston boot on my rear right caliper on a 13 GT. The book says pop a new caliper on.



Do I need to clamp off hoses or anything? Or are those the entire steps?

No, you will need to bleed the brakes though. Make sure the new caliper comes with new copper washers before losing/throwing out the old ones.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

Throatwarbler posted:

Welp.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC6tKvEy6t0&t=43s

quote:

Shelby GT350 Mustang: The Legend Returns

• All-new Shelby® GT350 Mustang is a thoroughbred capable of tackling the world's most
challenging roads and racetracks

• GT350 is powered by a unique, high-revving flat-plane crankshaft 5.2-liter V8 engine that will produce more than 500 horsepower – the most powerful naturally aspirated Ford production engine ever

• Advanced materials, MagneRide dampers, aggressive brakes and finely tuned aerodynamics push the performance of Mustang to previously unmatched levels

LOS ANGELES, Nov. 17, 2014 – One of the most iconic performance Mustang nameplates of all time is returning, Ford confirmed today with the reveal of the all-new Shelby® GT350
Mustang.

The original Shelby GT350 introduced in 1965 established Mustang's performance credentials. The all-new Shelby GT350 Mustang, featuring the most powerful naturally aspirated Ford production engine ever, is a world-class performance vehicle, designed to tackle the planet's most challenging roads – an all-day track car that's also street legal.

The new GT350 builds on Carroll Shelby's original idea – transforming a great every-day car into a dominant road racer – by taking advantage of a dramatically improved sixth-generation Mustang to create a truly special driving experience. Driving enthusiasts behind the wheel of a Shelby GT350 can expect to be treated to the most balanced, nimble and exhilarating production Mustang yet.

Ford engineers took an innovative approach with GT350. Rather than develop individual systems to perform well independently, every component and shape is optimized to work in concert; balance is the key. While paying rigorous attention to detail, the team pushed the envelope with cutting-edge materials and technologies.

"When we started working on this car, we wanted to build the best possible Mustang for the places we most love to drive – challenging back roads with a variety of corners and elevation changes – and the track on weekends," said Raj Nair, Ford group vice president, Global Product Development. "Every change we made to this car was driven by the functional requirements of a powerful, responsive powerplant – nimble, precise handling and massive stopping power."

Track-tuned driveline
Early in development of the GT350, it was decided a high-revving, naturally aspirated V8 engine would best suit a track-focused Mustang.

"The final product is essentially an all-new powerplant unique to GT350 – and one that takes true advantage of the new chassis dynamics of the Mustang platform," said Jamal Hameedi, chief engineer, Ford Global Performance Vehicles.

The new 5.2-liter engine is the first-ever production V8 from Ford with a flat-plane crankshaft, an architecture typically found only in racing applications or exotic European sports cars. Unlike a traditional V8, where the connecting rods are attached to the crankshaft at 90-degree intervals, this design evenly spaces all crank pins at 180-degree intervals.

The 180-degree, flat-plane layout permits a cylinder firing order that alternates between cylinder banks, reducing the overlap of exhaust pressure pulses. When combined with cylinder-head
and valvetrain advancements, this permits better cylinder breathing, further extending the
performance envelope of the V8.

The result is the most powerful naturally aspirated production Ford engine ever, at more than
500 horsepower, with a torque peak above 400 lb.-ft. The track capability is enhanced by the output characteristics of the engine – the 5.2-liter V8 features an exceptionally broad torque
curve. Combined with its high-revving ability, the flat-plane 5.2-liter V8 gives drivers an
enormous amount of performance and flexibility within each gear of the lightweight six-speed manual transmission. A standard Ford-tuned Torsen limited-slip differential optimizes cornering
grip and straight-line traction.

"Make no mistake, this is an American interpretation of a flat-plane crankshaft V8, and the 5.2-
liter produces a distinctive, throaty howl from its four exhaust tips," said Hameedi.

Balanced dynamics
The new Mustang platform is the strongest in the history of the brand, with torsional stiffness increased 28 percent over the previous model. That stiff structure ensures the suspension geometry remains consistent, even under hard driving on back roads and tracks. Front stiffness is further improved on GT350 with a cutting-edge injection-molded carbon fiber composite grille opening and optional lightweight tower-to-tower brace. The front track has been increased while spring rates and bushings have been recalibrated all around, with ride height reduced compared to Mustang GT.

For optimum handling, the wheels need to respond quickly to the contours of the road and driver input. Reducing unsprung mass is key to improving that response, but a balance must be struck between taking mass out of a suspension and delivering truly capable braking performance.

Due to the significant speeds the car can develop, GT350 features the most track-credible brake system ever offered on a Ford vehicle in terms of absolute stopping power, fade resistance and brake pedal feel. The brakes are two-piece cross-drilled iron discs mounted to aluminum hats.

At the front are massive 394-millimeter rotors clamped by Brembo six-piston fixed calipers with integrated caliper bridges, while 380-millimeter rotors at the rear utilize four-piston calipers.

GT350 makes use of extra-stiff 19-inch aluminum-alloy wheels – 10.5 inches wide in front, 11.0 inches in the rear – clad in state-of-the-art Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires with GT350-specific sidewall construction, tread face and compound. The custom tires are designed to deliver maximum grip on the road or at the track.

Ultra-quick responsiveness to changing conditions is provided by the first-ever Ford application of continuously controlled MagneRide dampers. The dampers are filled with a hydraulic fluid impregnated with iron particles; when an electric current is passed through the fluid, a near- instant adjustment of the suspension performance can be made. With wheel position sensors monitoring motion thousands of times per second combined with other vehicle data, changes can be made to each corner independently every 10 milliseconds for optimum handling performance. This is a system designed not just to make the car handle better but to instill greater confidence in even the best driver.

Obsession to detail
"Everything we changed on GT350 is purely functional-driven design, with the goal of improving the overall performance of the car," said Chris Svensson, Ford design director, The Americas. "We optimized the aero shape of the car, and then fine-tuned what was left to increase downforce and cooling airflow." All bodywork from the windshield forward is unique to this high- performance model and up to two inches lower than Mustang GT.

The new aluminum hood has been lowered and sloped, compared to the base Mustang, tightly wrapped around the engine for the smallest possible aerodynamic signature. Front and rear aero elements have been balanced to work together on the track. The fascia has been resculpted to provide the aggressive lower front splitter with maximum pressure and a ducted belly pan delivers significant downforce. The hood outlet acts as a heat extractor while also reducing underhood lift at high speed. At the rear, much of the engineering was focused on creating an aggressive functional diffuser doing double duty to increase downforce and provide cooling air to the optional differential cooler, and a subtle lip spoiler across the trailing edge of the decklid increases downforce without adding excess drag.

The athletic stance of the all-new Mustang is further accentuated with recontoured aluminum front fenders to accommodate the wider front track and wider wheel arches. Front fender vents work with vented inner fenders to draw out turbulent air in the wheel wells and smoothly direct it down the side of the car. The forward-angled grille is designed with individual openings to draw air through the radiator, high-pressure engine air intake, cooling ducts for the front brakes and, optional with the Track Pack, an engine oil cooler and a transmission cooler.

Focus-driven cockpit changes
Like everything else about GT350, the interior has been optimized for driving, beginning with the specially designed Recaro sport seats with a unique cloth. Hundreds of hours and many prototypes went into a seat that is both comfortable in daily driving and capable on the track. A flat-bottom steering wheel makes it easier for the driver to get in and out, and is more ergonomic on the racetrack. Gauges are upgraded to reflect the enormous performance capability of the car. Chrome and bright finishes have been reduced or eliminated to prevent sun glare that may distract the driver.

The advanced technology inherent to Mustang has been deployed for duty in the Shelby GT350. An all-new integrated driver control system allows selection of five unique modes that tailor ABS, stability control, traction control, steering effort, throttle mapping, MagneRide tuning and exhaust settings, depending on driver preference, to achieve maximum performance. Drivers are invited to test them all.

Drivers interested in comfort, convenience and entertainment upgrades may select the Tech Pack, which includes power, leather-trimmed seats; Shaker Audio; 8-inch MyFord Touch® LCD touch screen; and dual zone electronic temperature control, to name a few features.

"We took the best Ford Mustang yet and massaged every aspect of the car that affects the performance driving experience," said Hameedi. "We tested endlessly on the most challenging roads and tracks in the world, and we believe serious drivers will love the Shelby GT350
Mustang."

50 years of Ford Mustang
Shelby GT350 Mustang is the latest in an all-new line of Mustang fastback and convertible models, including the specially designed 50th Anniversary Edition Mustang.

More than 9.2 million Mustangs have been sold since the car's 1964 debut.

With more options to choose from, there is a Mustang to fit any lifestyle. The upgraded V8 in Mustang GT – now delivering 435 horsepower and 400 lb.-ft. of torque – is joined by a 300- horsepower 3.7-liter V6 and an all-new 2.3-liter EcoBoost® engine that brings state-of-the-art technology to Mustang.

The Mustang 2.3-liter EcoBoost engine uses direct injection, variable cam timing and a twin- scroll turbocharger to deliver the performance drivers expect with an output of 310 horsepower and 320 lb.-ft. of torque.

The new Mustang continues to be popular. In addition to being the most-liked vehicle on Facebook with 8 million likes, all-new models are turning on U.S. dealer lots in an average of six days.

Now that this and the Hellcat Charger/Challenger exist, why do other carmakers even make cars anymore? Might as well wrap it up now.
Cross posting from news thread, as this needs to be here, too.
Want level: 11.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I want that very much, also I think I should've put down a towel before I watched that video.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
I sent that link to my wife and told her that our kid wouldn't be going to private school next year.

She was not amused.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Tide posted:

I sent that link to my wife and told her that our kid wouldn't be going to private school next year.

She was not amused.

Private schools are overrated anyway.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

PT6A posted:

Private schools are overrated anyway.

Not in Mobile, Alabama. Terrible doesn't begin to describe them.

Scob
Jul 17, 2005

man i like that gt350 i doubt my marriage would survive its purchase

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

Scob posted:

man i like that gt350 i doubt my marriage would survive its purchase

Prepay the lease so it isn't part of the divorce settlement.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
While its an awesome car for sure, I don't see what the big deal about the GT350 is. Seems like it sits right in between the GT and GT500? Just because of all the ponies with no supercharger?

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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Cage posted:

While its an awesome car for sure, I don't see what the big deal about the GT350 is. Seems like it sits right in between the GT and GT500? Just because of all the ponies with no supercharger?

The GT500 was much nicer on paper than in reality, and was poorly suited to the track because of heat soak issues, and I've read many reviewers saying it's too much power for the platform. The GT350 looks like a more worked over chassis with a focus on trackdays rather than drag racing.

ehnus
Apr 16, 2003

Now you're thinking with portals!

Cage posted:

While its an awesome car for sure, I don't see what the big deal about the GT350 is. Seems like it sits right in between the GT and GT500? Just because of all the ponies with no supercharger?

There is no GT500... yet.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

Cage posted:

While its an awesome car for sure, I don't see what the big deal about the GT350 is. Seems like it sits right in between the GT and GT500? Just because of all the ponies with no supercharger?
If they do a GT500, it will be a drag racer. Big surpercharger, huge power, big axles, etc. The GT350 is a track car. High revving, balanced, big brakes, lots of traction, etc. Different goals.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
Oops, I figured the 662hp GT500 was from the new mustang platform. Well thanks for the answers.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


You can still slap a supercharger on the 5.0 and get 700hp and basically have what the GT500 was.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Have they mentioned a price point for the GT350 yet? My guess is the $65,000 range.

e:

Powershift posted:

You can still slap a supercharger on the 5.0 and get 700hp and basically have what the GT500 was.

Yup. Get a Performance Pack equipped GT, order the blower, and boom - A GT500 for 2/3rds the cost.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


It won't be $65k.

Aluminum pannels instead of carbon fibre. Steel brakes instead of carbon ceramic. no turbos, intercoolers, superchargers. No overbuilt trans or diff to deal with the shock of 500 ft/lbs at 1000 RPM like the shelby.

I'm guessing base at $49,900, tech and performance pack bringing it up to $55-56k.

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

Should be getting some live images of the car real soon. Someone is posting images from the reveal on mustang6g.
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php/new-shelby-gt350-6265p19.html

Anyone know if it's going to be streamed?

E: Live stream
http://youtu.be/tBaht5rUIb0

Real car images:
https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2014/11/17/shelby-gt350-mustang-the-legend-returns.html

Mental Hospitality fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Nov 17, 2014

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Powershift posted:

It won't be $65k.

Aluminum pannels instead of carbon fibre. Steel brakes instead of carbon ceramic. no turbos, intercoolers, superchargers. No overbuilt trans or diff to deal with the shock of 500 ft/lbs at 1000 RPM like the shelby.

I'm guessing base at $49,900, tech and performance pack bringing it up to $55-56k.

If these had any possibility of being the prices in Canada, I'd be on this car like stink on an ape's rear end.

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