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Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:
I expect Coulson to show up in a post-credits stinger, that reveal seems perfect for those.

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Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!
It would be hard to reintroduce Coulson to the films in a manner that feels organic to the story and not like a shoehorned-in plug for the TV series.

Probably not impossible, but hard.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Javid posted:

I expect Coulson to show up in a post-credits stinger, that reveal seems perfect for those.

I dunno about that, dont the stingers usually reveal something unexpected to the audience rather than the characters? We already know coulson is alive, doesnt seem worth sitting through credits to have that rerevealed.

Nill
Aug 24, 2003

Barry Convex posted:

It would be hard to reintroduce Coulson to the films in a manner that feels organic to the story and not like a shoehorned-in plug for the TV series.

Probably not impossible, but hard.
I'd only expect it to happen if they want to reintroduce Shield in the films and to be glossed over with a throwaway line like:
"Coulson! I thought you died!"
"I did; Shield too. We're better now."

Inkspot
Dec 3, 2013

I believe I have
an appointment.
Mr. Goongala?
Television. It's a magical place.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!
I think you guys are overestimating how much effort it would take to reintroduce Coulson to the mainstream public. Most people don't watch the show, having Coulson show up out of nowhere just to drop a line about how SHIELD is fine would suffice for 99% of the audience, who would just go "Oh it's that guy I like! He died? Well guess he's better now!" and move on.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

Nill posted:

I'd only expect it to happen if they want to reintroduce Shield in the films and to be glossed over with a throwaway line like:
"Coulson! I thought you died!"
"I did; Shield too. We're better now."

Of SHIELD agents engaged with movie characters, Maria Hill knows, after helping get the gang out from under Talbot's thumb at the end of Season 1. If they wanted to, that's their in.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Barry Convex seems to have some personal stake in the show remaining separate from the films. Did he :toxx: himself over it?

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

twistedmentat posted:

Barry Convex seems to have some personal stake in the show remaining separate from the films. Did he :toxx: himself over it?

Hardly. I just enjoy arguing about stupid poo poo on the Internet.

Anyway, it's not and hasn't been "separate" from the films. But it's not going to start being "important" to them, either, no matter how many of the fans choose to believe otherwise.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
When a Nazi asks you to hold something, its generally a bad idea to do so.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Please, I was just killed off on another show!

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude
Okay, where does the idea that Germans but a "yes" at the end of their sentences come from?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

e X posted:

Okay, where does the idea that Germans but a "yes" at the end of their sentences?

It just sounds so patronizing.

Republican Vampire
Jun 2, 2007

Barry Convex posted:

Hardly. I just enjoy arguing about stupid poo poo on the Internet.

Anyway, it's not and hasn't been "separate" from the films. But it's not going to start being "important" to them, either, no matter how many of the fans choose to believe otherwise.

See, I think you're grasping for reasons to justify your reasoning that the show is disconnected. There's this weird idea that even though they're laying on the Inhuman hints incredibly thick, and Feige has said that Inhumans are going to be important much sooner than we think, somehow the hints and the overt statements don't add up to Inhumans because "something something my ideas about this TV show wah im a dumb poopy babby"

Agents of SHIELD is never going to essential. But that doesn't mean that it's not going to have plotlines that lead into the films or have plotlines that lead out of them. That, after all, is the purpose of the TAHITI and Clairvoyant storylines: To lead out of Avengers and into Captain America 2.

They're laying it on really thick that something to do with the Kree and with human/Kree genetic experiments is going to happen. The whole human/kree thing seems like a huge part of Phase 3 what with the Captain Marvel, the Inhumans, and the overarching merger of the 'Cosmic' world of the Kree and the Guardians of the Galaxy with the cape stories of the previous films.

I don't think anyone's realistically expecting Black Bolt and pals to turn up imminently. Personally I don't expect the lost city to even be there, what with the Inhumans having a mobile capital. But you seem super invested in this show somehow being totally separate from the rest of the MCU and that's weird.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Whooo crazy Ward!

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Holy poo poo Ward :stare:

mythicknight
Jan 28, 2009

my thick night

You can never have too much crazy Ward.

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe
Clearly, the mystery city is the city of Portland.

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

Jamesman posted:

Clearly, the mystery city is the city of Portland.
I understand this reference.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Deakul posted:

I understand this reference.

I didn't.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Jamesman posted:

Clearly, the mystery city is the city of Portland.

You can buy vhs porn with BITCOINS there!

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude

Republican Vampire posted:

Agents of SHIELD is never going to essential. But that doesn't mean that it's not going to have plotlines that lead into the films or have plotlines that lead out of them. That, after all, is the purpose of the TAHITI and Clairvoyant storylines: To lead out of Avengers and into Captain America 2.

They're laying it on really thick that something to do with the Kree and with human/Kree genetic experiments is going to happen. The whole human/kree thing seems like a huge part of Phase 3 what with the Captain Marvel, the Inhumans, and the overarching merger of the 'Cosmic' world of the Kree and the Guardians of the Galaxy with the cape stories of the previous films.

I don't think anyone's realistically expecting Black Bolt and pals to turn up imminently. Personally I don't expect the lost city to even be there, what with the Inhumans having a mobile capital. But you seem super invested in this show somehow being totally separate from the rest of the MCU and that's weird.

Then, what do you expect to be there. Because once you cut anything essential about the backstory, any characters and any events, there is not much left what they could put in the series as a lead-in plotline.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Oh god they've landed on Jurassic Park Savage Land!! Oh wait its just Hawaii

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
There's tons of jobber inhumans, or even just create some new one for the show they could add.

Coulson matter of factually saying Hawaiian names is pretty hilarious.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
Haha, leaking watches and radioactive coins.

Republican Vampire
Jun 2, 2007

e X posted:

Then, what do you expect to be there. Because once you cut anything essential about the backstory, any characters and any events, there is not much left what they could put in the series as a lead-in plotline.

The same thing we got with the Clairvoyant, but better executed: a mystery plot that builds to something that becomes an issue in the movies and is realized in the show.

So... a clue rather than an explicit reference, a direction rather than an exposition dump.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Simmons is a Carter fangirl. Outstanding!

EDIT: Woo! Carter!

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
Fangirling Agent Carter.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
More Hayley Atwell is always good.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
Over/under on the Asian lady who could touch the Obelisk being Skye's mother or grandmother?

mythicknight
Jan 28, 2009

my thick night

Blue angels eh?

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude

Republican Vampire posted:

The same thing we got with the Clairvoyant, but better executed: a mystery plot that builds to something that becomes an issue in the movies and is realized in the show.

So... a clue rather than an explicit reference, a direction rather than an exposition dump.

So, no connection at all? Because if we get something similar for the Inhumans, it basically would be a clue that points complete in the wrong direction. Prior to TWS, the Clairvoyant was always presented as an superpowered outside source, not a hint at him might being a Shield agent.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Oh god Skye's dad is the best kinda crazy. Nihilist crazy.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
Is it just me or did drat Fine Crazy seem really reluctant to be forced back into touching the Obelisk?

Also, now we know what flavor of crazy he is.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

BatteredFeltFedora posted:

Over/under on the Asian lady who could touch the Obelisk being Skye's mother or grandmother?

65

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude
American ads are weird as gently caress.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!
MacLachlan doesn't seem like he's playing the same character as when he last appeared.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Ward vs Ward! Who's crazier? Place your bets!

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude
I genuinely don't know whom I believe here. This amazing an amazing scene.

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Republican Vampire
Jun 2, 2007

e X posted:

So, no connection at all? Because if we get something similar for the Inhumans, it basically would be a clue that points complete in the wrong direction. Prior to TWS, the Clairvoyant was always presented as an superpowered outside source, not a hint at him might being a Shield agent.

I said "better executed" for a reason, dude. You might want to learn what words mean, because that means something other than "exactly the same."

I think that part of doing the lead in/lead out thing better involves finding a better balance between not overtly spoiling things and doing a grotesquely oversized red herring.

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