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Blatter has stated that there is still nothing wrong with the Russian and Qatar bids. So yes, he is going after the English and Aussie fa's.
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The FBI and UK govt have made it clear there are civil and criminal cases against FIFA, and so FIFA block the evidence with a view to prosecuting... the UK. That "It can't be released because privacy" thing was a threat, so it seems. They really are laudable in their brazen corruption.
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Nov 18, 2014 18:07
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Spangly A posted:This would be incredible. If Beijing can get it then loving anywhere can. It's the end stage of these bidding processes that a competently run FIFA would and should be worried about; when your demands, bribes and insane requirements of host countries drives away viable hosts, you're left with Turkmenistan '26 followed by Azerbaijan '30.
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Total Meatlove posted:If Beijing can get it then loving anywhere can. It's the end stage of these bidding processes that a competently run FIFA would and should be worried about; when your demands, bribes and insane requirements of host countries drives away viable hosts, you're left with Turkmenistan '26 followed by Azerbaijan '30. Everybody forgets that the dutch withdrew because FIFA wanted them to pave over all the bicycle lanes for special FIFA-only roads. Qatar was totally happy building those roads. Also can cuhulin discuss whether Swiss court are able to extend a case beyond scope or if they're limited to scope of prosecution like here and I assume most places? I'm going to guess that this silences all the critics, brands England and Australia guilty, and won't even mention Qatar. I really hope someone is smart enough to get the Qatar evidence in a courtroom, though.
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Nov 18, 2014 18:18
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I know nothing about law, has Sepp Blatter gone and done it again? Will FIFA now get away with it or can justice still prevail?
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Nov 18, 2014 18:26
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Machinegunboyo posted:I know nothing about law, has Sepp Blatter gone and done it again? Will FIFA now get away with it or can justice still prevail? me too he has they will it wont
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Nov 18, 2014 18:29
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Spangly A posted:Also can cuhulin discuss whether Swiss court are able to extend a case beyond scope or if they're limited to scope of prosecution like here and I assume most places? I'm going to guess that this silences all the critics, brands England and Australia guilty, and won't even mention Qatar. I really hope someone is smart enough to get the Qatar evidence in a courtroom, though. You're mixing up a couple things here. In basically any civilized country, the government can open an investigation into illegal acts that happened in that country and then prosecute people for those acts.
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Nov 18, 2014 18:31
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drat FIFA knows all the moves
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Nov 18, 2014 19:04
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It's like a telenovela
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Nov 18, 2014 19:10
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It's come to rooting for Wikileaks hasn't it?
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Pook Good Mook posted:It's come to rooting for Wikileaks hasn't it? It is kinda ludicrous that tens of thousands of secret government documents can be leaked but FIFA can somehow prevent the release of one.
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:It is kinda ludicrous that tens of thousands of secret government documents can be leaked but FIFA can somehow prevent the release of one. Some people enter the military and government service with the belief that they can do good in the world. No one involved with FIFA had any illusions about what they were becoming a part of
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Nov 18, 2014 20:23
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Touche.
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Nov 18, 2014 20:26
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the obvious corruption is genius because only the corrupt will join fifa so you dont have any whistleblowers only people wanting to get paid
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Nov 18, 2014 20:31
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fifa.com/jobs is a thing that exists, btw.
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Nov 18, 2014 20:38
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drat, lol. my poor shirt
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Nov 18, 2014 21:27
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Jose posted:His reputation is not exactly being helped by the current situation tbf This is what I was thinking. Right now he looks pretty complicit in the affair. Pull a Chelsea Manning, and then I will think highly of him. What good is a private investigation for a multi-national organization?
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Dirk Pitt posted:This is what I was thinking. Right now he looks pretty complicit in the affair. Pull a Chelsea Manning, and then I will think highly of him. What good is a private investigation for a multi-national organization? I don't think becoming a woman is going to help his case.
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Dirk Pitt posted:This is what I was thinking. Right now he looks pretty complicit in the affair. Pull a Chelsea Manning, and then I will think highly of him. What good is a private investigation for a multi-national organization? How does he look complicit? This is working out great for Garcia.
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blue footed boobie posted:How does he look complicit? This is working out great for Garcia. No action. All he has said is 'that's not what I said' and still stayed in his New York City apartment (certainly furnished by FIFA or from money's earned by 'investigating FIFA') Edit: did I read correctly that his investigation cost Fifa $6million? Jesus loving Christ. I would commit hari Kari if someone would give me$6 million dollars to travel the world for 18 months. Dirk Pitt fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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Nov 19, 2014 03:43
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He actually can't do anything more than that though. I can't believe anyone would expect him to do otherwise.
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Nov 19, 2014 04:14
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What the hell do you want Garcia to do? Commit career and financial suicide by releasing the report and then spend the next 20 years in jail while his family moves out of their home and changes schools? He's spent 25 years on his career and you want him to put himself at the mercy of a transnational with over $1 billion in the bank over the integrity of a sport.
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Nov 19, 2014 04:53
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Yes. Otherwise it is just empty words. Edit: He was a bush appointee...so I guess I am asking a lot.
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Nov 19, 2014 05:04
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Why would anyone do a 18 month investigation into a sporting event 18 years in the future, and accept that it will never see the light of day?
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Nov 19, 2014 05:07
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If you've made 6mil on something you don't need a career henceforth
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Nov 19, 2014 05:13
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Garcia has no incentive to leak the report. By protesting Eckert's summary without actually giving details, he gets to look like he wrote a golden report (that no one will ever read) while at the same time there aren't any penalties for him actually wanting it to see the light of day. And for all we know the actual report exonerates Qatar and Russia as well, and the thing Garcia is appealing is that Eckert wasn't harsh enough on England and Australia. By not leaking it, everyone fills in their own blanks for what Garcia discovered, and he wins. He gets to have his cake and eat it too.
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Nov 19, 2014 05:26
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I'm also guessing the actual report isn't all that damning, which would put a real dampener on all these UEFA protests, given their call seems to be "Release the original report" rather than "End FIFA the corrupt cocksuckers".
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Nov 19, 2014 06:51
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Dirk Pitt posted:Why would anyone do a 18 month investigation into a sporting event 18 years in the future, and accept that it will never see the light of day? I'm not entirely sure what part of this you're missing, but it's not uncommon for organizations to do internal investigations to evaluate exposure and provide solutions for future compliance. People, like Garcia, who do these investigations sign confidentiality agreements as a matter of course because otherwise it would be a public investigation rather than an internal one. If anything, it's surprising that Garcia called for his report to be released at all.
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Garcia has called for it because he doesnt want his name associated with massive investigatory fraud and political whitewashing. Thats the only reason.
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Nov 19, 2014 15:30
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Straight from the horse's mouth:Sepp Blatter posted:"We have been advised that publication of the report might be permissible if the persons and entities included in the report consent to such publication and waive any legal action they might be entitled to bring.'' Absolutely comical.
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Nov 19, 2014 17:58
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He's so full of poo poo, how can the newspapers just roll over and quote what he says without the obvious follow-ups they should be asking?
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Nov 19, 2014 18:11
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That is some class A circular logic right there.
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Nov 19, 2014 18:11
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We will expose the fraudulent behavior of FIFA executives only if they want it to be exposed.
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Nov 19, 2014 18:16
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Pook Good Mook posted:He's so full of poo poo, how can the newspapers just roll over and quote what he says without the obvious follow-ups they should be asking? Their press boxes and individual invitations to FIFA banquets would dry up.
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Nov 19, 2014 18:24
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anyone involved in off the pitch stuff in top level football is bad people just like everyone in fifa
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Nov 19, 2014 20:23
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30122601 Read that, just read it. The last sentence is the best. Blatter asking if Dykes letter asking for the report to be published gives tacit approval for him to release everything about Englands bid to the press but no-one elses stuff.
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Nov 19, 2014 23:15
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I agree with Marina Hyde, we should invade Switzerland
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Nov 19, 2014 23:19
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Will someone just get it over with and sue these fuckers? Have fun hiding evidence then jackasses.
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Nov 19, 2014 23:21
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Pook Good Mook posted:Will someone just get it over with and sue these fuckers? Have fun hiding evidence then jackasses. I'd do it, but I have a career to take care of.
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