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White Dog Eggs posted:Hell yes! I hate Les Paul style Arch-Tops. It's stupid. TBH I hate Les Pauls in general. Poor design. poor design?
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Fax Sender posted:poor design? Overly heavy, headstock snaps if you look at it funny, set neck, neck pickup too high-up (in fairness this is a problem with a lot of guitars), archtop is a pain in the dick to make. It's a small jazz acoustic, but solid.
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Nov 21, 2014 03:11
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Concatenation posted:It's all that and more same thing as emperion but as i said actually got their poo poo together and i wouldn't completely laugh at anyone ordering from them nowadays, just mostly laugh
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Nov 21, 2014 03:24
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White Dog Eggs posted:Overly heavy, headstock snaps if you look at it funny, set neck, neck pickup too high-up (in fairness this is a problem with a lot of guitars), archtop is a pain in the dick to make. It's a small jazz acoustic, but solid. i agree with just about all of this except for maybe the neck pickup comment but then again, what would you call the ideal position for it?
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Nov 21, 2014 03:28
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ideal place for a neck pickup is in the garbage
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Nov 21, 2014 03:34
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The neck pickup on a Les Paul is the best part of it.
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Nov 21, 2014 03:36
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shiksa posted:ideal place for a neck pickup is in the garbage Dirt posted:The neck pickup on a Les Paul is the best part of it. By the transitive property, Les Pauls belong in the garbage.
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Nov 21, 2014 03:42
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Those Empireon guitars look like Rondo, if Rondo was a tasteless 15 year old.
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Nov 21, 2014 03:55
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only issue with goontar is that the grip isn't dong enough
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Nov 21, 2014 04:41
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Concatenation posted:Man I can't believe I forgot about him, he's absolutely perfect for this thread. I brought up devries earlier, but you've done a better job of it than I ever could. I did put the videos in a playlist though so here: Rhythm In Jump. Dancing Close To You. He's absolutely severely mentally ill, claims to have made guitars for famous people but they're actually all knockoffs of their guitars. He's shat up just about every large or local music forum as well as pissing off Perry Ormsby, who tried to reason with him IIRC. Speaking of Perry though, he's currently working on this inlayed body - all stone and shell, 240 pieces:  That's definitely before cleanup and the closeups actually look really really nice but god drat. WDE: I'm not 100% sure how much larger I would want it, say 20% or so? Hard to tell. Any way to get some dumb triangular spikes on the spikes is fine by me, I think that's the best way to take on the spiky guitar thing especially because spikes on spikes is what I used to think was cool back in primary school. Also, those chinese factories also make Jay Turser guitars - and one such factory is where GuitarFetish got their warehouse clearance or w/e thing from as they have a body of a JTRes-DLX listed at the moment.
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Sleepflower posted:Speaking of Perry though, he's currently working on this inlayed body - all stone and shell, 240 pieces: Jesus christ. There's no denying Perry's work is amazing, but dragonball z seriously? Still can't wait to see it done though. I mean the ebony top even looks like the speed background manga lines. vvv jesus it's like the guitar equivalent of a person that has a huge tumour and lets it grow unchecked for decades before appearing in the guinness book of records Concatenation fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Nov 21, 2014 |
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Also, this is majestic. I feel bad, but I kind of want to order the $200 Kramer 5150 guitar and put a real FR on it as my tremolo guitar. EDIT: and they have the rainbow PRS too 
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Fax Sender posted:i agree with just about all of this except for maybe the neck pickup comment but then again, what would you call the ideal position for it? Due to physics shennangians, the neck pickup on a Les Paul (and a lot of other 22-fret guitars) is in pretty much in the worst place to pick up sound on a vibrating string (google nodes and antinodes, the neck pickup is right on the antinode). On single coil-pickups it doesn't sound too bad, but humbuckers just sound muddy and blah. Putting the pickup about 20mm further down improves things a lot. Sleepflower posted:Speaking of Perry though, he's currently working on this inlayed body - all stone and shell, 240 pieces:  Sleepflower posted:WDE: I'm not 100% sure how much larger I would want it, say 20% or so? Hard to tell. Any way to get some dumb triangular spikes on the spikes is fine by me, I think that's the best way to take on the spiky guitar thing especially because spikes on spikes is what I used to think was cool back in primary school. Yea, I'm not sure why I made it 'normal' sized tbh, I can make it about 10% bigger pretty easily buy using an oversized bearing on a template router bit when I make it proper. It should have been a bit longer in the body though. Ah well. More spikes it is!
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White Dog Eggs posted:Due to physics shennangians, the neck pickup on a Les Paul (and a lot of other 22-fret guitars) is in pretty much in the worst place to pick up sound on a vibrating string (google nodes and antinodes, the neck pickup is right on the antinode). On single coil-pickups it doesn't sound too bad, but humbuckers just sound muddy and blah. Putting the pickup about 20mm further down improves things a lot. How do you learn stuff like this? Luthier-school? Or is it just something you pick up tinkering with guitars for 10-15 years?
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Sleepflower posted:
hell yeah this rules
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If anyone doubts that Les Paul headstocks snap off easily, check out this thread I saw on FB yesterday (identities protected of these poor schlubs)  edit: WDE goontar lookin sweet
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White Dog Eggs posted:Due to physics shennangians, the neck pickup on a Les Paul (and a lot of other 22-fret guitars) is in pretty much in the worst place to pick up sound on a vibrating string (google nodes and antinodes, the neck pickup is right on the antinode). On single coil-pickups it doesn't sound too bad, but humbuckers just sound muddy and blah. Putting the pickup about 20mm further down improves things a lot. doesn't that immediately stop mattering once you fret the string?
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Pondex posted:How do you learn stuff like this? Luthier-school? Or is it just something you pick up tinkering with guitars for 10-15 years? I read pretty much everything guitar related I can find online and try to remember the good bits. I also made a really crude pickup-testing rig out of a beech plank, a poo poo guitar neck with a busted truss rod and one of those horrible non-intonatable wrap-around bridges (basically a super-crude lap-steel type thing) and experimented with putting pickups in different places. I'd love to go to luthier school, that'd be funny as poo poo. Don't fancy paying £3k for some guy to tell me off for not tonally matching my neck blanks with my body blanks though. muike posted:doesn't that immediately stop mattering once you fret the string? Honestly? Probably, you are effectively changing the length of the string by fretting it, so the nodes should shift around. Moving the neck pickup down the body slightly definately makes it sound better with humbuckers though.
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Concatenation posted:Man I can't believe I forgot about him, he's absolutely perfect for this thread. Not gonna lie I really want one. Like a flying V or spiked up explorer covered in incoherent swearing and smells like blood and semen made out of the worst poo poo available. poo poo would be crust punk as gently caress.
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IronLawnmower posted:Not gonna lie I really want one. Like a flying V or spiked up explorer covered in incoherent swearing and smells like blood and semen made out of the worst poo poo available. poo poo would be crust punk as gently caress. I was going to ask who the hell would buy something like that, and a contender arises. 
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unlawfulsoup posted:I was going to ask who the hell would buy something like that, and a contender arises. From what I'm seeing he may be the Chris-chan of the luthier world. Maybe I should just buy one of those "build your own guitar" kits and DIY my own hosed up sweartar with decent electronics. Although I'd gently caress it up because I very bad at anything requiring precision.
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IronLawnmower posted:From what I'm seeing he may be the Chris-chan of the luthier world. Maybe I should just buy one of those "build your own guitar" kits and DIY my own hosed up sweartar with decent electronics. Although I'd gently caress it up because I very bad at anything requiring precision. so is he and you'd spend less money this way what i'm trying to say here is do it
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IronLawnmower posted:From what I'm seeing he may be the Chris-chan of the luthier world. Maybe I should just buy one of those "build your own guitar" kits and DIY my own hosed up sweartar with decent electronics. Although I'd gently caress it up because I very bad at anything requiring precision. Woah, that's weird, I just put one of these together for someone today! They'd painted and varnished it, they just wanted me to assemble it and give it a once over. Honestly, it wasn't too shabby. Slightly loose neck pocket but nothing a bit of veneer couldn't fix. http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_electric_guitar_kit_vstyle.htm
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Dewgy posted:so is he and you'd spend less money this way Yeah but it wouldn't be as authentic. It wouldn't feel real and a bit cheaty. Anyway even if I mangled my fingers in a woodchipper I could probably still do a better job than him. Edit:WDE I may buy that kit and give it a go. Posting results here of course. Just whenever I have the chance to purchase. IronLawnmower fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Nov 21, 2014 |
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IronLawnmower posted:Yeah but it wouldn't be as authentic. It wouldn't feel real and a bit cheaty. Anyway even if I mangled my fingers in a woodchipper I could probably still do a better job than him. A dude in a FB-group I'm a member of built their telecaster-kit and was pretty happy about it. So-so pickups but that's almost to be expected at that price.
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Pondex posted:A dude in a FB-group I'm a member of built their telecaster-kit and was pretty happy about it. So-so pickups but that's almost to be expected at that price. Yea, the pickups weren't great, but they weren't overly terrible either. A nice set of Artec pickups would kick rear end in there. Oddly, the neck was Fender scale, which might turn a few people off.
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I'll buy that guitar kit with whatever christmas money I get.
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IronLawnmower posted:I'll buy that guitar kit with whatever christmas money I get. Let me know if you do! I'll be happy to talk you through it. It's pretty easy tbh, but a little help never hurts.
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Huh, these kits are drat cheap actually, I know you get silly pimped out guitars with lasers and handles or whatever but guitars are really relatively cheap instruments from what I heard, a friend of mine plays Bassoon and that has an entry level price of like at least £1000.
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sout posted:Huh, these kits are drat cheap actually, I know you get silly pimped out guitars with lasers and handles or whatever but guitars are really relatively cheap instruments from what I heard, a friend of mine plays Bassoon and that has an entry level price of like at least £1000. its why on craigslist theres a hundred guitarists who want to be in a band next to a couple keyboard players and maybe a drummer. you can buy a lovely guitar and amp for a kid to practice on in his bedroom for literally a hundred bucks or less, and more parents are willing to pay for that than something with a little more start-up cash required.
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the real winner in the price war is bass, as bass guitar is even cheaper than electric
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i've never really done anything like this but i've been sort of wanting to cut up my middle school embarrassment warlock into an unrecognizable body shape. any suggestions? considered cutting it so it was a huge strat pick guard but that almost seems too much of a bad joke. i'll probably ruin it somehow but i'm not sure what to do with it
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Stux posted:the real winner in the price war is bass, as bass guitar is even cheaper than electric an ugly girl is also the cheapest one to get drunk at a bar and as many people want to do that as play bass for a band
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countdown to that quote being taken out of context and considered sincere in 3...2...1...
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shiksa posted:its why on craigslist theres a hundred guitarists who want to be in a band next to a couple keyboard players and maybe a drummer. you can buy a lovely guitar and amp for a kid to practice on in his bedroom for literally a hundred bucks or less, and more parents are willing to pay for that than something with a little more start-up cash required. It also helps that guitar has been more or less a foundational instrument for an immense amount of pop music in the last 30+ years. I played trombone (lolol) in school, and it was okay, but it had fairly little use outside of a band. I had books with Beatles songs and other crap to play on trombone. It sounded as horrid as one would imagine. There are lots of cool instruments but a lot of them are really specialized and niche. Then again someone will probably point to their favorite indie band that has a dual bassoon/trombone section. edit: If China/whatever was making GBS threads out bassoons the price would go down as well and the quality would probably gradually become quite good as well. Probably little interest in competing over the cutthroat bassoon market. unlawfulsoup fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Nov 21, 2014 |
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sout posted:Huh, these kits are drat cheap actually, I know you get silly pimped out guitars with lasers and handles or whatever but guitars are really relatively cheap instruments from what I heard, a friend of mine plays Bassoon and that has an entry level price of like at least £1000. Reeds are cheaper than strings, though.
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