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Following suggestion from the thread, I tried RB Ground Forces. It's usually five minutes of not shooting anyone and getting 50 lions. Which is preferable to Event RB airplanes, which is 20 minutes of not doing anything, then getting shot down by AI. On the other side, going on the sides of the map is gold, both in comedy and lions. Now, Arcade Groundforces is my love... Well, I'm only up to Pz III Ausf. J, so that might change in higher tiers. But yesterday, I spent neard drat 9 minutes with my Pz III sitting behind the tree line near the "right" side spawn point (I don't ever remember the last time I spawned on the left) in Poland, exchanging fire with guys from the "left" spawn.. Among the more fun moments was seeying your own tank deflect a shot while flying a bomber and only dying to enemy bomber because my tank was no longer serviceable. Seriously, I took so much fire in that match, probably everything was broken. In the end, I killed 7 and my team lost. As it always happens when I'm the best player in team. It's kind of dispiriting really. On a related note, loving bombers on mono point maps. I think I spawned in a Wellington once (Hawaii or whatever that tropical map is) and the there was a narrow passage between two rocks just filled with enemy tanks trying to cap the point. I bombed 5 and 1 friendly. Pity I still suck in dogfighting. Must have read OP wrong.
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Asproigerosis posted:Hmm, this sim joystick stuff, is it basically just 3rd party mouse aim? It is basically a virtual joystick. You move your mouse to the left and your plane will roll left, spin out of control and crash into the ground because you did a too hard turn at too low speeds. For real now, it has improved quite a lot and is quite some fun even with a mouse.
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Nov 23, 2014 14:32
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Asproigerosis posted:What is the proper way to play the heavy fighters/attackers? They can't kill tanks, and are too slow and plodding to dog fight or intercept bombers. Or am I just misunderstanding. Many heavy fighters do fine in RB, and they can certainly do well in the earlier tiers of AB. The Me-410 B6/R3 does especially well and will happily kill tanks, bombers and (mostly bad) fighters.
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Nov 23, 2014 14:39
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Michaellaneous posted:For real now, it has improved quite a lot and is quite some fun even with a mouse. I dare say it's that good enough to allow people to forego the purchase of a joystick to get their feets wet in SB. Jump in the Me410 A1/U2 or any other twin engine fighter with a rear gunner (for added situational awareness). And then have fun. Just keep in mind to practice takeoffs in test flight. Hint: Throttle up slowly. It might make the transition easier since mouse joy is easier to use than a real joystick. Centring the cursor will level out your plane, you also won't need to gently caress around with trim etc. I'd label it more like mouse aim "light" than mouse joy.
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Nov 23, 2014 14:57
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 I want to play this tank so bad in a game. Why couldn't the Swedish make some Proto-Frankenstein tank during WW2.  Anyways, yes - I'm using the virtual joystick because I'm too  about connecting my actual stick and rebinding it, and I gotta say it is not bad - just be VERY CAREFUL when turning.
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Nov 23, 2014 16:27
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Azran posted:Why couldn't the Swedish make some Proto-Frankenstein tank during WW2. Since we're talking ground forces it's more like Vietnam War, going by what they've listed as coming to Russia.
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Nov 23, 2014 16:43
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I kind of wish they would extend it to include second generation jet fighters, flinging derpy missiles around, their small and ineffective warheads and seekers and having to get stuck in an awkward (because most of these planes turn like rear end) gunfight anyway owns.
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Nov 23, 2014 17:04
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Plan Z posted:-I'm guessing they're going to stick with the first test turret on the T32, or that thing will be unbalanced as hell. I know WoT is a bad barometer to go by, but yeesh. That looks like the second one with the mantlet.
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Nov 23, 2014 17:12
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Shanakin posted:I kind of wish they would extend it to include second generation jet fighters, flinging derpy missiles around, their small and ineffective warheads and seekers and having to get stuck in an awkward (because most of these planes turn like rear end) gunfight anyway owns. Give me the F-104 to live out my lawndarting dreams!
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Nov 23, 2014 17:28
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So at last I have the engine upgrades for the Tempest II. Oh. My. God.
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Nov 23, 2014 18:41
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Machine guns are awesome: http://coub.com/view/4382q Warning big .gif in the Spoiler 
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Nov 23, 2014 20:42
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Azran posted:
http://aw.my.com/us/ Fairly certain I saw an S-Tank in one of their trailers or screens. Plan Z fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Nov 23, 2014 |
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Nov 23, 2014 20:43
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Is that game any good?
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Nov 23, 2014 20:44
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StashAugustine posted:Is that game any good? It's a 1to1 clone of WoT. So No.
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Nov 23, 2014 20:45
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I got setup for playing sim I'll look out for goons playing to walk me through some of the nuanced aspects of the mode. I've so far just gotten into some test flights and got used to how it all feels, I like it so far but would still like to have some hand holding for the first little while.
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Nov 23, 2014 21:14
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Trip report from a newbie sim player: 1. It's still so god drat hard hitting people I cry myself to sleep. Just did some games, hit people several times this time but with 7.7 mm's from the spitfire, poo poo just doesn't go down. 2. More linearity - no .. WAY MORE. I'm about to max it out, and I still have huge issues with the pitch. It bobs up and down so insanely bad - and I just can't figure out how to aim smoothly. Targets flying almost level in front of me pretty much has nothing to fear. 3. Hitting more deflection shots - pretty awesome, and if I just had cannons instead of piddly mentioned 7.7s I could probably have murdered something pretty good. So yeah ... practice practice. The whole joystick setup still pains me though. I hope real pilots didnt have their planes darting and bobbing up and down like mine is.
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Nov 23, 2014 21:17
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Zsinjeh posted:Turrets are overrated, increase suspension power All my friends know the low rider The low rider is a little higher S-Tank is one of my favorite tanks, it looks like some sci-fi command and conquer bullshit. 
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Nov 23, 2014 21:40
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The russians could learn about a new concept from that tank....gun depression.
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Nov 23, 2014 21:41
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Suppose that I was insane enough to try the He-163 with it's RB battle rank of 7.0. Is there anything in particular that I should/shouldn't do with it?
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Nov 23, 2014 22:57
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Michaellaneous posted:It is basically a virtual joystick. You move your mouse to the left and your plane will roll left, spin out of control and crash into the ground because you did a too hard turn at too low speeds. The virtual joystick is good but I can't get a handle on using the keyboard for rudder use. 
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Nov 23, 2014 23:02
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Plan Z posted:Or at least stick to arcade mode until they realize their stupid 5v5 RB mode is dumb, or that it should at least always be on Kursk. Play sim tanks.  Going indirect fire mode in the su-122 is pretty fun gimmick. Mostly ineffectual due to the reload time but hilarious when you get a direct hit without needing line of sight to your target.
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Nov 23, 2014 23:18
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I have you now - what? Noooooooooooooooooo
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Nov 23, 2014 23:19
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Asproigerosis posted:What is the proper way to play the heavy fighters/attackers? They can't kill tanks, and are too slow and plodding to dog fight or intercept bombers. Or am I just misunderstanding. Head on everything always.
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Nov 23, 2014 23:25
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Plan Z posted:Yeah. With AP belts and careful aim, they can kill, but you have to be surgical with your shots. The general idea is that these kinds of tanks either kill by repeatedly making GBS threads on the one weak spot with really quick shooting, or by knocking out an enemy's ability to fight. If you can't damage a tank, then you'll at least be the toast of the team when you make some big beast's cannon look like a banana peel. The thing that gets me really excited about American ground forces is that on some of the later tanks we will have crazy long range high caliber guns with actual gun depression and even stabilizers, all with Russian levels of mobility. It's going to be nice. I just hope it means more people will play sim tanks once that comes out.
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Nov 23, 2014 23:49
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Lee Outrageous posted:The thing that gets me really excited about American ground forces is that on some of the later tanks we will have crazy long range high caliber guns with actual gun depression and even stabilizers, all with Russian levels of mobility. It's going to be nice. I just hope it means more people will play sim tanks once that comes out. And the best bit will be those same American pubbies driving down the BR of a 1950 tank to 1942 levels. He163 Trip report: as stock it sucks against a standard BR7-ish allied/Russian lineup. Doesn't seem to have the power/energy retention to energy fight a P80, and it certainly can't turn fight one. On the plus side I accidentally smacked into a tree and died and thus deprived a pubbie of killing me.
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Lee Outrageous posted:The thing that gets me really excited about American ground forces is that on some of the later tanks we will have crazy long range high caliber guns with actual gun depression and even stabilizers, all with Russian levels of mobility. It's going to be nice. I just hope it means more people will play sim tanks once that comes out. I want to play American tanks so bad when they come out, but then I remember that everyone else does too. I might just bet on US tanks ending up like US planes and enjoy the diaspora of terrible players. Plus if Gaijin follows through on their claims about making things like the IR scope on the Panther II work, that could be interesting in sim mode. Why do I hold onto such deluded hopes.
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Mr Darcy posted:And the best bit will be those same American pubbies driving down the BR of a 1950 tank to 1942 levels. Even with upgrades the He-162 is bad. It just does not have any elevator authority anymore. It used to be somewhat good in that if you could bait someone into turnfighting you had a reasonable chance to kill them, not so anymore. It probably belongs in the same BR as the yak 15.
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http://gfycat.com/FewReflectingCorydorascatfish Thanks Muhlump!
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There really ought to be a way to have like...preferential queuing of tanks/planes in RB and SM. Right now the North American GF population isn't high enough to support SM battles, and when they add a third nation it's going to be even harder for the MM to make matches unless they give us fictional US-vs-USSR battles. But if you had a way to queue up multiple tanks such that the MM would grab whatever tanks are available to make the biggest match as fast as possible, that would alleviate the waiting times by a huge amount I think. Like, say of 20 players waiting, 10 queue up US tanks, 7 queue up Soviet tanks and there are 3 German tanks. MM can't make a match with US-vs-USSR so it sees if any of those US or USSR players have queued up German tanks as their secondary, and if there are enough, it will create a US-Ger or USSR-Ger match.
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The following video runs a bit long, but it's effective in demonstrating how zeros are completely loving awesome, and yet they can't outturn their peers when flying at 350+ kph. The 109 still dies but effectively drags me to the deck, because he outturns me until he doesn't. The Jugs are kind of dumb, but I still can't turn onto and keep up with the one that Woop gets, because of compression. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXbxv0T3ChA
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mlmp08 posted:The following video runs a bit long, but it's effective in demonstrating how zeros are completely loving awesome, and yet they can't outturn their peers when flying at 350+ kph. Now I'm picturing you listening to this music while playing and yelling "Oscar, you will not get away!" as you chase that 109 to the deck. 
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http://coub.com/view/4382q now i just want to play GF with machine guns are implemented and spend entire rounds knocking every tree on the map over
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GF sim is really the best mode BUT the rewards for it are awful. You lose money more often than not. Even in a good match and a win you get like 6k lions.
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Szcwczuk posted:GF sim is really the best mode BUT the rewards for it are awful. You lose money more often than not. Even in a good match and a win you get like 6k lions. Rewards for any game mode on ground forces is poo poo.
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Ground forces remains awful because if you get uptiered, there is a very good chance your guns will not be able to penetrate anything at all. The Panzer 38T in T2 cannot do poo poo unless some other unlucky bastard gets uptiered.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Ground forces remains awful because if you get uptiered, there is a very good chance your guns will not be able to penetrate anything at all. The Panzer 38T in T2 cannot do poo poo unless some other unlucky bastard gets uptiered. Wrong/bad opinion spotted. The 38t is perfectly adept at its BR, once you get APC/APCR to put holes in T50/T34 turrets. The KV is basically the only thing you see that you can't kill reliably. And you need to research it to get the Marder and Jpz38 anyway.
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Avoid hetzer.
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Wales Grey posted:Wrong/bad opinion spotted. The 38t is perfectly adept at its BR, once you get APC/APCR to put holes in T50/T34 turrets. The KV is basically the only thing you see that you can't kill reliably.  to elaborate tanks should not be useless until you get an arbitrary upgrade, because that is Bad Gameplay, this extends to repairs/fire suppression as well.
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Yeah, that's why I dumped WoT. It was obviously set up so that a bunch of people would just get fed up and buy the top cannons/tracks/turrets with gold. At least in this game, if a tank is too big, I can blow out the guy's gun and force him to eject. e: Oh man, I just found out the SMK is coming. No more fascist box tanks for me. Plan Z fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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