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CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

eggyolk posted:

What's wrong with alighting the plane?

It's terrible that the first time I heard the term "alighting" was when I took the HSR here in Taiwan. "Alight the train." Otherwise, on flights I've heard "deplane" "deboard" "unboard" "ground" and "get off the plane"

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

Dear China:

I'm perfectly willing to defend similar designs, and even straight up copying poo poo in aviation terms, but even I've got a loving limit. It's not the 1960s anymore, try something loving new for once.

To be fair, considering the role and mission, it's hard not to come up with a plane design that looks like that. One group of students at college did spy-drones for their senior design class and half of them looked like rip-offs of the Predator.

It's also why stunt planes often look so much alike. A specific mission profile will almost always dictate, or at least favor, a specific set of designs. Unless you decide to be a special snowflake and design something completely off the wall.

Re: Cobra chat. I've had my apartment overflown at least 3 times a week by Hueys and Cobras from the RoC. Kinda cool, actually, but I don't have a good camera and I'm never in a good spot to get a shot.

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MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

eggyolk posted:

What's wrong with alighting the plane?

The last guy who tried is in federal prison. :cop:

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


I drove up to Deception Pass on Whidbey Island today, saw a P3 Orion coming in for a landing and a F18 slowly toodling around. Pretty cool. Shame the weather went for a poo poo.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

Dear China:

I'm perfectly willing to defend similar designs, and even straight up copying poo poo in aviation terms, but even I've got a loving limit. It's not the 1960s anymore, try something loving new for once.

Yeah piggybacking on what YF19pilot said, there's three very noticeable components to that design that appear to be copied from the Pred/Reaper: the bulbous fuselage, the high aspect wings, and the unusual looking v-tail empennage.

Each of those is easily explainable from a capabilities perspective...the bulbous fuselage is required for the satellite dish to enable BLOS control, the high aspect wings get the best performance out of a plane that's intended to loiter at medium altitude at moderate speed, and the v-tail increases stability, something important for a plane that is flown remotely and may drop out of direct control depending on the quality of the control link.

That said, it's kind of hard to tell with that picture but it looks like they have the horsehair yaw-string hanging from the AoA probe. If so that's goddamned hilarious.

Ambihelical Hexnut
Aug 5, 2008
Re: grammarchat: I've met a lot of crusty old helicopter pilots who claim they "drive" "airplanes." Just go with it.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...

Ambihelical Hexnut posted:

Re: grammarchat: I've met a lot of crusty old helicopter pilots who claim they "drive" "airplanes." Just go with it.

Pretty common reference. C-130 guy is a Herc driver, F-18 bro daddy is a hornet driver, etc etc.

xergm
Sep 8, 2009

The Moon is for Sissies!

MrYenko posted:

That's only a mild redesign away from being a godamned best seller on Adam and Eve.

Redesign? It's perfect as is. Just look at that O-face.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Fly Air Kevorkian!

A Melted Tarp
Nov 12, 2013

At the date

priznat posted:

Fly Air Kevorkian!

I do fly Delta frequently, thank you.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

A Melted Tarp posted:

I do fly Delta frequently, thank you.

:rimshot:

That being said, I could see the use for that 'injection seat' on a prisoner transport, maybe with a dose of Ativan or Versed metered for the weight/body type of the prisoner sitting in it. He gets unruly, you knock his rear end out for the duration of the flight. But the idea of putting a pneumatic injection system with *poison* in it beneath people's seats with the possibility of turbulence triggering the mechanism through simple airframe stress...

There's already a terrorist incapacitation system on every airliner - it's called depressurizing the cabin. I still remember seeing all the bright ideas for terrorist incapacitation post-9/11.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Nov 25, 2014

A Melted Tarp
Nov 12, 2013

At the date

BIG HEADLINE posted:

:rimshot:

That being said, I could see the use for that 'injection seat' on a prisoner transport, maybe with a dose of Ativan or Versed metered for the weight/body type of the prisoner sitting in it. He gets unruly, you knock his rear end out for the duration of the flight. But the idea of putting a pneumatic injection system with *poison* in it beneath people's seats with the possibility of turbulence triggering the mechanism through simple airframe stress...

There's already a terrorist incapacitation system on every airliner - it's called depressurizing the cabin. I still remember seeing all the bright ideas for terrorist incapacitation post-9/11.

I've done that before, sorta.

We were asked to fly a failed prison escapee to a trauma center. The dude was 6'4" and 300lbs, easy - and had a history of violence towards the corrections officers. He had a possible femur and/or pelvic fracture, but was completely alert and talking. Our usual strategy for these people is to paralyze them and put them on a ventilator, but he was just way too with it to justify inserting a breathing tube.

So instead, I sat behind him with a syringe full of 300mg of ketamine, ready to depress the plunger if anything went sour.

McDeth
Jan 12, 2005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHq56fVJak4

My freedom boner is massive because of all the 80's coke that the music implies. Some of the shots that they get are some drat awesome that it really makes me think that some of this is CGI...

McDeth fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Nov 25, 2014

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Okay that was sexy as all get out

Micr0chiP
Mar 17, 2007

McDeth posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHq56fVJak4

My freedom boner is massive because of all the 80's coke that the music implies. Some of the shots that they get are some drat awesome that it really makes me think that some of this is CGI...

Pure plane porn, beautifully shot :fap:

marumaru
May 20, 2013



This guy is making a KSP for planes.

http://www.simpleplanes.com/

Supposedly it uses "realistic physics". Could be fun.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Ambihelical Hexnut posted:

Re: grammarchat: I've met a lot of crusty old helicopter pilots who claim they "drive" "airplanes." Just go with it.

so you drive a car, and pilot a boat, and fly an airplane

then why are they called pilots

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

VikingSkull posted:

so you drive a car, and pilot a boat, and fly an airplane

then why are they called pilots

Almost everything in aviation comes from nautical tradition (hence "aeronautics").

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

simplefish posted:

Okay that was sexy as all get out

lol at that supposed shot of AWACS screens.

standard.deviant
May 17, 2012

Globally Indigent

mlmp08 posted:

lol at that supposed shot of AWACS screens.
I didn't catch the caption but it had Nellis on the display... I think that was one of the exercise management programs.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

standard.deviant posted:

I didn't catch the caption but it had Nellis on the display... I think that was one of the exercise management programs.

Watch it again, they have some sort of 3d thing going on in the background.

Also, F-15 beating a F-16 using BFM? Obviously staged. :v:

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


McDeth posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHq56fVJak4

My freedom boner is massive because of all the 80's coke that the music implies. Some of the shots that they get are some drat awesome that it really makes me think that some of this is CGI...

Look at the HUD shots when they're down in the dirt. Static speed and climbing through 9900ft with no radalt. That's CGI.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

standard.deviant posted:

I didn't catch the caption but it had Nellis on the display... I think that was one of the exercise management programs.

Nope. It might be a rendering of something that happened, but it's nothing used realtime at Nellis, and nothing in that E-3 is accurate except the seats (well the part you can see looks like the seats that were replaced a few years ago.

The display is labeled Nellis Air Combat Training System (NACTS). That's the telemetry pod system used to track everything (like ACMI, etc). But that's not what the standard display looks like. It's a 2d, god's eye view from above, no terrain mapping or anything like that. Just airspace borders.

Godholio fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Nov 25, 2014

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

keyboard vomit posted:



Someone patented an airline seat that would poke you in the butt with poison if someone decided you were going to hijack the plane.

New coach-sleeper seating class.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

McDeth posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHq56fVJak4

My freedom boner is massive because of all the 80's coke that the music implies. Some of the shots that they get are some drat awesome that it really makes me think that some of this is CGI...

All it needs is flying through a building and a bullshit superweapon, and it'd be Ace Combat: the Music Video.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
It's all footage from that IMAX Red Flag movie, a lot of it is CGI.

eggyolk
Nov 8, 2007


That's the kind of footage I'd want to send back in time to see the reactions of early aviators.

buttcrackmenace
Nov 14, 2007

see its right there in the manual where it says
Grimey Drawer

I wonder if videos of this type featuring F-35s will ever exist.

Brovine
Dec 24, 2011

Mooooo?

Bob A Feet posted:

Pretty common reference. C-130 guy is a Herc driver, F-18 bro daddy is a hornet driver, etc etc.

...A320 guy is a bus driver...

NightGyr
Mar 7, 2005
I � Unicode

Mike-o posted:

It's all footage from that IMAX Red Flag movie, a lot of it is CGI.

Looks more like a fake HUD over real footage from a nose camera. Not totally fake, just the cockpit part.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

NightGyr posted:

Looks more like a fake HUD over real footage from a nose camera. Not totally fake, just the cockpit part.

I can tell you that AWACS internal scene is fake too

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer

NightGyr posted:

Looks more like a fake HUD over real footage from a nose camera. Not totally fake, just the cockpit part.

Yeah, there's that too. CGI and fake camera shots, and fake AWACS interiors galore.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

bitcoin bastard posted:

New coach-sleeper seating class.

I'd definitely fly an airline that shot me full of tranqs before a ten-hour flight.

benito
Sep 28, 2004

And I don't blab
any drab gab--
I chatter hep patter

VikingSkull posted:

so you drive a car, and pilot a boat, and fly an airplane

then why are they called pilots

And you ride a motorcycle (from ride a horse?)

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Mike-o posted:

Yeah, there's that too. CGI and fake camera shots, and fake AWACS interiors galore.

I wish they'd shown the 30 minutes boot up time of the JSTARS and AWACS systems :allears:

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

benito posted:

And you ride a motorcycle (from ride a horse?)

I dunno what you do to tanks or other tracked vehicles

manhandle I guess

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


VikingSkull posted:

I dunno what you do to tanks or other tracked vehicles

manhandle I guess

Molest.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

I'd definitely fly an airline that shot me full of tranqs before a ten-hour flight.

For trans-Pacific flights, the entire plane should be full of cheap-rear end Coach-class seats, the only difference being the kinds of drugs they give you. Economy Coach gets gently caress all, 'Coach Plus' gets Benadryl, Business-class gets Ambien, and First Class gets complimentary nitrous in the drop down masks and flight attendants dressed in "Naughty Nurse" outfits doling out all-you-can-tolerate fentanyl lollipops.

brains
May 12, 2004

McDeth posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHq56fVJak4

My freedom boner is massive because of all the 80's coke that the music implies. Some of the shots that they get are some drat awesome that it really makes me think that some of this is CGI...

this is so loving ace combat, i love it. the music, the pan shots, even the briefing screen and the hilariously awkward post-mission cutscene, everything. and it's amazing.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


BIG HEADLINE posted:

For trans-Pacific flights, the entire plane should be full of cheap-rear end Coach-class seats, the only difference being the kinds of drugs they give you. Economy Coach gets gently caress all, 'Coach Plus' gets Benadryl, Business-class gets Ambien, and First Class gets complimentary nitrous in the drop down masks and flight attendants dressed in "Naughty Nurse" outfits doling out all-you-can-tolerate fentanyl lollipops.

I'm picturing the business class pax sleep-murdering the zombie doped coach plus pax, and economy coach don't even notice because they can't hear the groans over the sound of waiting babies, and the first class just watch the horror unfolding and laugh and laugh and laugh.

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Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde

Linedance posted:

I'm picturing the business class pax sleep-murdering the zombie doped coach plus pax, and economy coach don't even notice because they can't hear the groans over the sound of waiting babies, and the first class just watch the horror unfolding and laugh and laugh and laugh.

Nah, you gotta give something to the economy class passengers, otherwise they'll attack the coach and business classes for their drugs. Since giving out even more drugs (and having to bump up the quality of all the upper classes to make up for it) would cost the airline too much money, I propose we just rename economy to what it really is, Steerage, and throw errybody in the hold. More room for the drugged up folks to bounce around or whatever as well!

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