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Torquemadras posted:Little did we know that system limitations forced the developers to shelve several ambitious concepts, all of which will now re-emerge due to the greater processing powers of the new consoles. jesus this is so good.
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If they introduced a new feature where if you have seven summoned helpers you all unlock a secret gesture that lets you unite into different "morphs" for the host to use as a gigantic weapon based on what he's using in his right hand and the gesture's name was "Team, Unite Up!" then it would unironically be the best game of the year. EDIT: I'll be honest with you though, I'm super hoping we get Ornstein's armor set. We won't, but I wish.
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Gologle posted:If they introduced a new feature where if you have seven summoned helpers you all unlock a secret gesture that lets you unite into different "morphs" for the host to use as a gigantic weapon based on what he's using in his right hand and the gesture's name was "Team, Unite Up!" then it would unironically be the best game of the year. I would play the Wondersoul 101.
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Harrow posted:My guess is that it won't split it on PC, because the current PC version will be getting a patch to bring all of the balance changes, matchmaking changes, and story content that the new version gets. The original version WILL NOT get the matchmaking changes, as those are contingent on the engine upgrade. The community will be split between the old version and the new version. This was said in the Japanese press release. Tallgeese fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Nov 25, 2014 |
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Nov 25, 2014 18:44
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Probably been mentioned, but does having the season pass give you access to the upgrade?
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It does not. All the season pass does is give you the DLC for the original game. Said DLC is included in the upgraded DX11 version, bought separately, by default. Tallgeese fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Nov 25, 2014 |
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Nov 25, 2014 18:59
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Huh, that sucks. After all of my characters got nerfed I've been holding off on playing the DLC, and this isn't really making me want to get into it.
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Tallgeese posted:The original version WILL NOT get the matchmaking changes, as those are contingent on the engine upgrade. drat if the new PC version means a return to SL matchmaking, I'll buy it. I'll buy it anyway, cause I like throwing money after From
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Harrow posted:My guess is that it won't split it on PC, because the current PC version will be getting a patch to bring all of the balance changes, matchmaking changes, and story content that the new version gets. It looks like the new PC version's only real difference is DirectX 11 and the new graphical stuff. I could be wrong about that, but that's the impression I'm getting. And if that's the case, I can't see any reason to split the multiplayer pools on the same platform. If the trailer is any indication, another addition is there being up to 6 people in a world as opposed to 4, so they might have to separate the versions unless they can incorporate that into the DX9 version. EC posted:The server based matchmaking REALLY helped DS2, though. Never once was I in a situation where the "summoning phantom" line was blinking on the screen and then 60s later: summoning failed. Oh definitely. I'm not saying PS3/360 Dks was perfect for connectivity, but it was still okay, especially compared to the garbage that is GFWL souls. Unless you were trying to connect to a specific person and you couldn't get in the same IP pool as them, summoning wasn't really an issue.
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And before anyone asks... No, I'm pretty sure that there's not going to be any sort of improved matchmaking as we would imagine it on the old versions. Why? Because A) you can't trust a word the US branch says (see: Soul Memory), and B) that whole bit is nowhere in the Japanese version comparison as far as I can see (http://darksouls.jp/pc/scholar_of_the_first_sin_specmatrix.html). My guess is all they're referring to is SM tier changes. Those of you wondering if the community will be split, pay particular attention to the "ABC DEF" row. Those indicate the server each platform will be on. There's all new servers for the new versions. The 6 player thing especially is going to not be backported. Tallgeese fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Nov 25, 2014 |
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Wait so what IS included in the free patch? The new content, graphical upgrades and improved matchmaking has to be bought separately then?
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Id refrain from making decisive comments like that until something concrete comes out.
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Azran posted:Wait so what IS included in the free patch? The new content, graphical upgrades and improved matchmaking has to be bought separately then? Included: 1) The content. This means the NPCs, the changed item descriptions, et cetera. 2) Parameter changes. This means stat changes, weapon speed adjustments, etc. This is distinct from radical enemy and game design changes. Bandai Namco US claims there's some sort of improved matchmaking included in the patch, but that's not mentioned anywhere in the Japanese chart I can see. Keep in mind these are the same dudes who got Soul Memory wrong. Tallgeese fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Nov 25, 2014 |
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Tallgeese posted:Included:
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RoadCrewWorker posted:Any idea if this includes "with new deadlier enemies", or what that even means? Are they talking about NG+ style additional spawns? Now see, that's the main point of confusion aside from the whole pricing thing. The version chart indicates that all versions get parameter changes. This refers to, basically, stat changes of weapons, attacks, etc. Game balance changes, like the ones we've been already getting in patches. However, the new versions get exclusive changes to "game and enemy design". It's not clear what that encompasses. Smart money says that changed enemy behavior and placement is going to be exclusive to the new versions (unless the uproar makes the Japanese devs change their mind, but since when have they ever listened to their Western fanbase?). Tallgeese fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Nov 25, 2014 |
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Torquemadras posted:...yeah. ...uuuuuh... Why is my post in quote yellow? Is this some new fancy platinum user stuff I'm not aware of? Seriously, I could make up bullshit DS features all day, it's as if I actually get to torture players! Well, in any case: with the updates - whatever they entail -, I guess I'll just buy this game again.  It's not like I'm getting around a PS4 anyway, what with Bloodborne on the horizon...
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Torquemadras posted:...uuuuuh... Why is my post in quote yellow? Is this some new fancy platinum user stuff I'm not aware of? New feature of the Something Awful comedy forums.
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It's not just for platinum users, they made it so posts that quote you show your quote in yellow now. I would imagine it's so you can find people replying to you more easily.
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Torquemadras posted:...uuuuuh... Why is my post in quote yellow? Is this some new fancy platinum user stuff I'm not aware of? People who quote you appear in yellow only on your screen, so that you can see when you've been quoted.
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I'm incredibly curious to see how this pans out. I love and still play DSII, the new content sounds neat, but I have zero faith that they've ironed out the matchmaking problems. From just doesn't have a consistently positive track record here, full stop. Even further, I'm not sure I'm going to want to split my attention between two From games in a span of two weeks--I wonder if they'd initially been aiming to have a two month gap between releases before Bloodborne got delayed. Hopefully the number of folks online won't dwindle too much if I hold off on grabbing this for a month or two.
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Welp. https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/537305334759845889
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Torquemadras posted:Little did we know that system limitations forced the developers to shelve several ambitious concepts, all of which will now re-emerge due to the greater processing powers of the new consoles. cracking up at all of these
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Kinda glad I didn't buy the DLC yet I guess. I'll just buy the whole thing in April, or even wait for that one to go on sale. Hopefully Scholar of the First Sin starts at like $40 new.
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AngryBooch posted:Kinda glad I didn't buy the DLC yet I guess. I'll just buy the whole thing in April, or even wait for that one to go on sale. Hopefully Scholar of the First Sin starts at like $40 new. My guess is full price, which considering the DLCs are in it might just be a little more than that. Though, I do hope people who have the original version get a discount of some variety.
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Tallgeese posted:(unless the uproar makes the Japanese devs change their mind, but since when have they ever listened to their Western fanbase?). ...When they made the PC version of Dark Souls 1 in the first place?
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Best case: auto discount on Steam if it reads the game in your library. Worst case: oh no I have to spend ~$35-40 over at GMG.
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Dukka posted:Best case: auto discount on Steam if it reads the game in your library. Yeah, I'm fairly sure this is how it'll be. I'd be surprised if theres no loyalty discount but if theres not as you said, GMG should have it cheaper. I remember it was pretty great that Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut was 75% off for preexisting owners and I bought and gifted a few copies to people since it was only 5bux. I know DSII Redux won't be THAT cheap but it'd still be nice if it was an option.
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axelsoar posted:I would play the Wondersoul 101. Unite Darkhand? EDIT: CJacobs posted:A little optimism wouldn't hurt, you misers. That depends, will said optimization include fixing longstanding FPS bugs? I feel silly capping my throttle so a my caveman clubs are not as fragile as balsawood compared to bashing shortswords and maces into walls and corpses willy nilly without having to give their durability a second thought. Though I'd probably grab it anyways, if only because if I put off getting back to the game that long may as well have it look as pretty as possible in the process 
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Dunno why people are upset about it, it's like buying an HD version or GOTY package of any video game. It's exactly like that, actually. It probably won't be full price if you already own it.
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CJacobs posted:Dunno why people are upset about it, it's like buying an HD version or GOTY package of any video game. It's exactly like that, actually. It probably won't be full price if you already own it. Mainly because it's an engine upgrade for a PC game which was supposedly downgraded for previous-gen consoles, that's being re-released less than a year after the original release date. I don't really mind because I haven't actually bought the DLC yet, but if there's no cheap upgrade option available for the PC version, I feel that's a bit dickish.
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A little optimism wouldn't hurt, you misers.
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Haha. Could always just watch new NPCs/cutscenes on youtube and spare your wallet.
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Oh yes. I mean it could be 60 $ and I would still buy it.
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Section Z posted:Unite Darkhand? Team! Engaging incandescent form!
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CJacobs posted:Dunno why people are upset about it, it's like buying an HD version or GOTY package of any video game. It's exactly like that, actually. It probably won't be full price if you already own it. I think it's because people were confused about it before and thought they were getting the upgrade for free. Now they know they're not. Though it'll probably still be full price either way, real talk. $60 and not a penny less.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Team! Engaging incandescent form! Summoning has failed.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Team! Engaging incandescent form! This might be the 3 hours of sleep talking, but I laughed
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RBA Starblade posted:Summoning has failed. You're not incandescent until you're stacking two different visible auras plus your swords are on fire. Also see: Smelter Aura on players.
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I'm really looking forward to the "augmented item descriptions". There's a lot of pretty boring item descriptions out there, and I feel like a lot of names and things are severely underused. Like the name Eygil, from Eygil's Idol, the big Minotaur statue where the third bonfire of iron keep is. I forget what item talks about it.
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