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Foma posted:How is this a good thing? How does shutting down a road people need bring anyone to your side? I feel like people have lost their minds. If institutional racism is a thing that exists why would you need to protest to get white people to recognize it? 
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ClearAirTurbulence posted:Agreed, as an ex-racist I can say no racist cares if you are half something else if you are half black. It doesn't earn you white privilege. It all depends on the way you are trying to turn the argument. Look at Obama. When he's strong, they all call him a black thug. When he cites his own experience as a black man, they get confused. Then Rush Limbaugh (your former king) comes out, and says "he's not black! He's Halfrican-American!" And everyone gets it. "What can't I take from Nobama," they gloat to themselves.
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Nov 26, 2014 03:56
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Vahakyla posted:I'm gonna need a common law lawyer to help me out in explaining it deeper, but a person can be punched in front of the police station, too, and if he walks away and the punchee says nothing, no one has any reason to chase that dude, especially if they did not immediately see it or have it reported through dispatch. You can still be arrested for a variety of reasons based on that punch, and the prosecutor doesn't need the punchee's permission to go ahead with charges, although it's obviously very hard to prosecute if all parties involved refuse to cooperate.
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Foma posted:How is this a good thing? How does shutting down a road people need bring anyone to your side? I feel like people have lost their minds. People can gently caress with the system as much as they want for a while.
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Nov 26, 2014 03:56
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This thread has really sunk to suggesting a thread for only black people? Holy. poo poo.
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Nov 26, 2014 03:57
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Somebody have a livefeed link on the ground cable news loving sucks.
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Nov 26, 2014 03:57
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What is this human "outrage" you speak of?
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Cole posted:This thread has really sunk to suggesting a thread for only black people? Uh why is that shocking to you, Cole? Personally I don't think black people talking to each other is a big deal but I also don't think people speaking in foreign languages are talking about me behind my back, so
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Nov 26, 2014 03:58
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There's a thousand different dumb loving arguments in this thread. But what really offends me is how conservative all you young white folks are.
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Nov 26, 2014 03:58
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Neo Rasa posted:Weird according to many in this thread if a teenager punches a person the police have permission to shoot them til they die. They do. They can. Do you realize the separation, though? Those vehicular attacks have a person who makes a police report, initiating the police to investigate. In this situation, the lady has not come forward with anything. Do we even know who she is? The cops wouldn't do anything about it during non-protest times, either. You can't place people under arrest for misdemeanors that the cops did not see happening and no one complains about. Unless they are some of the exceptions, such as domestic violence.
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Nov 26, 2014 03:59
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Foma posted:How is this a good thing? How does shutting down a road people need bring anyone to your side? I feel like people have lost their minds. Yes, please go and sit in that hidden corner over there so we can continue to not give a poo poo about institutional racism.
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Nov 26, 2014 03:59
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bassguitarhero posted:I get that it's Christmas and all but did the artist take a moment to think about whether or not it's smart to say black people in Ferguson need a white person to save them? Goddamnit you beat me to it, like a cop on a peaceful protester!
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Nov 26, 2014 03:59
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Cole posted:This thread has really sunk to suggesting a thread for only black people? I don't anyone here wants an echo chamber of hurt feelings where everyone has to understand how much people are oppressed. Everyone is just waiting for a cure.
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Nov 26, 2014 04:00
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bassguitarhero posted:I get that it's Christmas and all but did the artist take a moment to think about whether or not it's smart to say black people in Ferguson need a white person to save them? much like any other supposed alabaster savior of the downtrodden colored man, he's imaginary. Some children think he exists and others just have a thing for art depicting him, but outside of children who also think a giant rabbit leaves baskets of candy for them, he's not real.
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Nov 26, 2014 04:01
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Sistergodiva posted:Yes, please go and sit in that hidden corner over there so we can continue to not give a poo poo about institutional racism. Yeah I'm sure the guys stuck in the traffic jam are going "god drat amerikkka smash the state!!!!" and not "loving lazy assholes, go get a job"
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Nov 26, 2014 04:02
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So there are a ton of helicopters in the air over downtown LA right now. I guess the LAPD is expecting an Event.
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Nov 26, 2014 04:02
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Black people should be more like us. Or at least less, well black, like those hard working asians. Look at them, so cute!
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Nov 26, 2014 04:02
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Foma posted:How is this a good thing? How does shutting down a road people need bring anyone to your side? I feel like people have lost their minds. It forces them to take time out of their busy day and wonder, have these people lost their minds or have I missed something very important about why these people are acting this way? If they aren't outraged that others would interrupt their activities, they might consider even talking to these people they don't understand and trying to become privy to their perspective. They might even come to find that they share some common opinions with the people who are doing this, even if they do not approve of their methods.
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Nov 26, 2014 04:02
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SedanChair posted:*saddest white face in history* "How can you still believe in divisions?" Cole posted:This thread has really sunk to suggesting a thread for only black people?
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Nov 26, 2014 04:03
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If the system shows that it'll punish you and treat you like poo poo regardless of whether or not you actually commit crimes, why the hell would you work within it? Ignoring that, HOW the hell do you work within it when it's actively trying to push people who want to fix its problems away? Working within the system requires a system open to change, that welcomes those with opposing views. That's not the law enforcement community in the US, especially in urban America.
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Nov 26, 2014 04:03
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semper wifi posted:Yeah I'm sure the guys stuck in the traffic jam are going "god drat amerikkka smash the state!!!!" and not "loving lazy assholes, go get a job" Turns out one of the point of protests is to disrupt things to generate attention for your grievances. Man you'd think half these posters are on the spectrum the way they need simple human behavior explained to them.
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Vengeful Turtle posted:How about working with the system we have and trying to change it from within instead of "Let's tear this poo poo to the ground, yo!".
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Nov 26, 2014 04:04
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Vahakyla posted:They do. They can. Do you realize the separation, though? Those vehicular attacks have a person who makes a police report, initiating the police to investigate. In this situation, the lady has not come forward with anything. Do we even know who she is? The cops wouldn't do anything about it during non-protest times, either. she was taken to the hospital but clearly it is impossible to find her lol
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Nov 26, 2014 04:04
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Foma posted:I was replying to Sedanchair saying "Gotcha bitch, go iron your hood and flowing robes." which I assume he is accusing me of being a Klan-member Your first mistake was taking SedanChair entirely seriously.
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Livestream from outside the Ferguson police headquarters: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9690208/events/3569957 Protesters just started throwing some poo poo at the cops/national guard, and people are getting arrested now too. Earlier there were flatbed trucks loaded up with steel plates driving through the crowd...according to the guy streaming, the steel is supposedly for them to armor their headquarters.
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semper wifi posted:Yeah I'm sure the guys stuck in the traffic jam are going "god drat amerikkka smash the state!!!!" and not "loving lazy assholes, go get a job" What the gently caress do you care about their perceptions of the protesters? This isn't a popularity contest. They don't care about how they look. They have a message to get across.
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Voted Worst Mom posted:It forces them to take time out of their busy day and wonder, have these people lost their minds or have I missed something very important about why these people are acting this way? If they aren't outraged that others would interrupt their activities, they might consider even talking to these people they don't understand and trying to become privy to their perspective. They might even come to find that they share some common opinions with the people who are doing this, even if they do not approve of their methods. I think you are grossly overestimating the self-awareness of the average American.
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Frijolero posted:What the gently caress do you care about their perceptions of the protesters? This isn't a popularity contest. They don't care about how they look. They have a message to get across. "The best protests are the ones I never have to see or hear about so I can continue not giving a poo poo about whatever little childish problems they have" -semper wifi
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semper wifi posted:Yeah I'm sure the guys stuck in the traffic jam are going "god drat amerikkka smash the state!!!!" and not "loving lazy assholes, go get a job" Yes, because victimized people only protest to gain the affection of their oppressors.
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TheRagamuffin posted:I think you are grossly overestimating the self-awareness of the average American. This is not a reason to not protest
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bassguitarhero posted:I get that it's Christmas and all but did the artist take a moment to think about whether or not it's smart to say black people in Ferguson need a white person to save them? Even black people would shoot Black Santa for breaking into their homes, man.
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Jagchosis posted:she was taken to the hospital but clearly it is impossible to find her lol No one said that it is impossible to find her. I answered to why the driver is not under arrest.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:Turns out one of the point of protests is to disrupt things to generate attention for your grievances. Frijolero posted:What the gently caress do you care about their perceptions of the protesters? This isn't a popularity contest. They don't care about how they look. They have a message to get across. All they're doing is justifying the actions of the police and ruining the most viable point they have which is the disproportionate police response, particularly to the first protests. It got traction even in the far right initially but somehow I doubt it's going to get any more after last night's arson spree
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Voted Worst Mom posted:It forces them to take time out of their busy day and wonder, have these people lost their minds or have I missed something very important about why these people are acting this way? If they aren't outraged that others would interrupt their activities, they might consider even talking to these people they don't understand and trying to become privy to their perspective. They might even come to find that they share some common opinions with the people who are doing this, even if they do not approve of their methods. You are insane if you think anyone who can't get where they are going is going to give your cause anything but wrath and hate. Angering and upsetting people you should be trying to win over is just dumb. It is dumb to be happy about it happening and even stupider to think it has any benefit.
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Panzeh posted:Why would someone waste time posting tired poo poo about how everyone needs to come together, anyway? There's nothing interesting about that. They're about half way through Grade 11 American History and just finished reading the Wikipedia summary of "A People's History of the United States".
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nutranurse posted:Even black people would shoot Black Santa for breaking into their homes, man. Some freak in a fur coat with shiny eyes and gin blossoms? Dude is plainly a mile high on something. A clean shot, if you ask me.
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Nov 26, 2014 04:08
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bassguitarhero posted:I get that it's Christmas and all but did the artist take a moment to think about whether or not it's smart to say black people in Ferguson need a white person to save them? The Netherlands has you covered here.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:If the system shows that it'll punish you and treat you like poo poo regardless of whether or not you actually commit crimes, why the hell would you work within it? Preferably without interrupting my commute, boy. In all seriousness, the whole point of protests and sit-ins is to raise the visibility of a problem. The threat of people turning against civil rights because they got stuck in traffic from a street protest falls apart when you consider that they worked in the early/mid '60s.
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