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cremnob posted:As expected, the European Parliament has passed a resolution that calls on the European Commission to consider a break-up of Google as a potential solution to its dominance in the European search market. lol, of course the liberals opposed this vote (both the conservatives and socialists voted in favour  )
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i rly like being european not b/c of any of this google stuff just in general
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Nov 27, 2014 19:32
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the pro move is to have both american and a european citizen so you can live and work in the places that matter
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Nov 27, 2014 19:35
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graph posted:gmail on mac mail is busted yosemite. you have to do the captcha unlock thing like a dozen times and then it starts working. note: it now does not work on my iphone
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Nov 27, 2014 19:36
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Miley Virus posted:if you use 2fa on your google account you have to use an application specific password instead of your actual password i believe for mac and ios I thought this was the problem but it's my work email and doesn't have 2FA
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Nov 27, 2014 19:37
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Forums Terrorist posted:the pro move is to have both american and a european citizen so you can live and work in the places that matter my mother could have gotten an EU passport anytime before I was 18 and I would've been able to get one. what a drag
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Nov 27, 2014 19:38
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Blackula69 posted:I thought this was the problem but it's my work email and doesn't have 2FA
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Nov 27, 2014 19:44
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why cant gmail just do whatever icloud mail does for push on ios wait dont answer that i already know 
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Nov 27, 2014 19:52
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still pretty funny my old rear end iphone 4 i use as an ipod gets push gmail though
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Nov 27, 2014 19:53
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Beeftweeter posted:why cant gmail just do whatever icloud mail does for push on ios just use Mailbox.app
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Nov 27, 2014 19:54
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Pinterest Mom posted:just use Mailbox.app when i did i found it to be substantially similar to ios mail.app does it (now? idk if it did when i tried it) have push for gmail? if so, why can't apple loving do whatever they do i dont't like duplicating loving functionality with a ton of apps
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Nov 27, 2014 19:56
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:try app specific passwords anyway I can't create any, perhaps because I don't control the domain
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Nov 27, 2014 19:58
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mailbox has always had push for gmail, but that's because you give mailbox direct access to your gmail account and they run push themselves i think apple just doesn't want to bother setting up the infrastructure to do that because it's really not their problem.
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Nov 27, 2014 19:59
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Gmail can have push just like yahoo mail does. the only reason they don't is because Google hasn't enabled it.
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The Management posted:Gmail can have push just like yahoo mail does. the only reason they don't is because Google hasn't enabled it. they probably have their own "googley" implementation of it because some self-important nerdlinger google rear end in a top hat said he wanted to disrupt email on gmail for millions of people
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Nov 27, 2014 21:46
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Beeftweeter posted:why cant gmail just do whatever icloud mail does for push on ios because Apple won't tell anybody how iCloud Mail does it
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Nov 28, 2014 00:59
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Inbox.app pushes for me so...
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Nov 28, 2014 01:02
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Use a real os
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Nov 28, 2014 01:09
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pseudorandom name posted:because Apple won't tell anybody how iCloud Mail does it apple runs the iOS push servers. if you write an app, you can push from your server to your app by communicating with this server. if you want to push to the iOS mail client, you can do one of two things. either set up a push agreement with apple (which they will only do with large providers). yahoo, outlook.com, and aol do this. or you can run an exchange server that can do this via Microsoft's agreement with apple. Google has chosen to do neither for Gmail for unknown reasons.
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Nov 28, 2014 03:13
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The Management posted:apple runs the iOS push servers. if you write an app, you can push from your server to your app by communicating with this server. its probably just a juvenile jab at apple for having better products so google artificially lowers the qualityof mail.app by disabling push on one of the most popular email services. my theory anyway
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Nov 28, 2014 05:51
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that doesn't sound like google at all
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Nov 28, 2014 05:54
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The Management posted:either set up a push agreement with apple (which they will only do with large providers). well, that's complete bullshit
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Nov 28, 2014 06:13
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i seriously and unironically switched to outlook.com and i've been p happy esp everytime i see the gmail interface again
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Nov 28, 2014 06:18
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is there a way in the activesync protocol to push an update that says that a message has been read?
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Nov 28, 2014 06:21
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oh, hey, the dovecot plugin is here: http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/dovecot/dovecot-239.8/dovecot/src/imap/cmd-x-apple-push-service.c and the other end of that Unix domain socket is here: http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/dovecot/dovecot-239/dovecot.push-notify/daemon/push_notify.m and I don't see any kind of authentication between the IMAP server and Apple at all.
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Nov 28, 2014 06:29
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apns has a certificate bro
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Nov 28, 2014 06:31
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what does that stuff do pseudorandom name
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Nov 28, 2014 07:04
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The Management posted:if you want to push to the iOS mail client, you can do one of two things. either set up a push agreement with apple (which they will only do with large providers). yahoo, outlook.com, and aol do this. or you can run an exchange server that can do this via Microsoft's agreement with apple. Google has chosen to do neither for Gmail for unknown reasons. didn't google used to use this exchange thing and then ms wanted money or something i can't remember w/e just use inbox anyway
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Nov 28, 2014 07:27
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dazjw posted:didn't google used to use this exchange thing and then ms wanted money or something i can't remember my work email is through google and inbox gives an error when I try to login to it because google enterprise gmail isn't set up for inbox or something. thanks google
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Nov 28, 2014 07:50
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amazing how even after all these years ppl are still surprised when some new or beta feature doesnt work on they @customdomain.com google apps, which hgave always lagged behind @gmail.com account services since the brontosaurous era
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Nov 28, 2014 08:11
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as a canadian i can safely say that google is bad
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Nov 28, 2014 08:41
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Smythe posted:amazing how even after all these years ppl are still surprised when some new or beta feature doesnt work on they @customdomain.com google apps, which hgave always lagged behind @gmail.com account services since the brontosaurous era works on my @google.com email 
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Nov 28, 2014 08:44
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dazjw posted:didn't google used to use this exchange thing and then ms wanted money or something i can't remember yeah they (i think) did their own implementation of exchange, i still have it on my iphone 4. they stopped registering devices for it in early 2013 iirc because my old iphone 5 had it (i got in jan 2013 and was surprised that it worked). a replacement one i got a few months ago doesn't even though it use the same exact backup. i am displeased with goofle
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Nov 28, 2014 09:25
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itt ppl with incredibly high lvls of brain damage complain about gmail not working good on they phone instead of just downloading that gmail app
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Nov 28, 2014 09:30
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it's almost like people don't want any more email apps but to have all their email in one place, in an email Hub of sorts? with a Live Tile perhaps??
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Max Facetime posted:it's almost like people don't want any more email apps but to have all their email in one place, in an email Hub of sorts? with a Live Tile perhaps?? 
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Nov 28, 2014 09:57
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i actually like having my email separated into separate apps for personal and work so that i don't have to mix them, a difficult concept to grasp i know
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Nov 28, 2014 10:14
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Sagebrush posted:i actually like having my email separated into separate apps for personal and work so that i don't have to mix them, a difficult concept to grasp i know if only there was some way to keep the accounts separate in the app, alas, a man can dream
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:if only there was some way to keep the accounts separate in the app, alas, a man can dream can you set notifications & badges for one email account but not the other? e: oh neat you can
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