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UltimoDragonQuest posted:It's ok to chant CM Punk! Man, Punk really does not like Jericho.
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Jerusalem posted:I'm starting to suspect that the real reason Vince barely sleeps is because he knows if he lets down his guard for a single second, Austin's gonna hit him with a Stunner. Pretend I did this in a timely manner 
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Dec 4, 2014 08:22
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Fauxhawk Express posted:Man, Punk really does not like Jericho. I'm pretty sure Jericho and Ryback are the only two active wrestlers outside of management he really knocked on those shows.
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Dec 4, 2014 08:24
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So if Dr. Lucha from F4W is to be believed, Rey is going to be back with WWE because they're giving him a bunch of money to stay and Rey likes money. The impression is he won't be doing much wrestling but WWE wants a latino star and he's all they got.
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Dec 4, 2014 08:27
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they should sign Cavernario
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Dec 4, 2014 08:31
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The WWE is an environment ran by a bunch of insane people who never grew up in any proper way and treat their workplace like a middle school. From CM Punk's side it sounds like there's a lot of resentment towards him because he wouldn't play along, it makes working for the WWE sound completely miserable and I'm not surprised that Ziggler and Ryder are so bitter anymore. There was stories about Orton and Sheamus being pushed to take over CM Punk's spots that he came up with and it just screams of Triple H veto'ing Punk and putting his friends in them. e: WWE isn't trying very hard to build new Latino stars. Del Rio didn't work out because he was booked badly, and Sin Cara didn't work out because he's a loving idiot. Just hire a ton of luchadores like WCW did and put them in throw-away matches on Smackdown and NXT.
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Dec 4, 2014 08:31
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i think Rush could easily be a top heel in WWE, guy is like the only wrestler ever that has convinced me he's a total prick in real life based solely on his in-ring work.
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Dec 4, 2014 08:35
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WWE Discussion is "Retarded Henry" for 12/8
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Dec 4, 2014 08:36
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I just want one report of somebody in Creative discovering Seth's last name is Lopez and having an unfortunate conversation.
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Dec 4, 2014 08:39
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Spermgod posted:they should sign Cavernario Is he actually good because I loved his match at the CMLL anniversary show
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Dec 4, 2014 08:41
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Luigi Thirty posted:Is he actually good because I loved his match at the CMLL anniversary show he's been one of the best wrestlers in the world this year imo. check his En Busca de un Ídolo finals match vs. Hechicero and his match vs. Titán for the Mexican Welterweight title for starters. most all his En Busca matches involving Hechicero, Dragon Lee or Cachorro were really good too. and his lightning match vs. Rey Cometa i thought was better than the Aniversario match it built to.
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Dec 4, 2014 08:45
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I may be a jumbled mess right now, but the vibe I'm getting from the two Punk/Cabana podcasts is that more so now than ever before the WWE is not wrestling. They are drinking their own Kool-Aid on this "sports entertainment" poo poo that closely resembles wrestling, and as a result this bizarre mish-mash of corporate world and carny garbage is poisoning everything. Vince McMahon is basically Jerry Jones, where they are pretty skilled at one area of business but hilariously incompetent in another. Despite this, they insist on doing both and causing havoc for their entire organization. Kinda sad.
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Dec 4, 2014 08:58
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DM Punk posted:Punk joked about working the Young Bucks at PWG and now I want that to happen. But, it won't. quote:The Young Bucks @MattJackson13 13m13 minutes ago
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Dec 4, 2014 08:59
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Everblight posted:Yeah, except he isn't any good at actually wrestling, and his storyline now retroactively makes no sense. As Wily E. loving Coyote, super-genius, there's no reason for him to have hung out with a backwoods hillbilly preacher-man. I like the idea that he was a big silent guy who everyone thought was stupid so they treated like crap except for Bray who realized he was actually really smart so he recruited him.
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Dec 4, 2014 09:19
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I'd love to listen to the Colt podcast, but I just finished sitting through Jingle All the Way 2 and I need some alone time for a while. Usually in these WWE movies you can say, "At least [wrestler] was a decent actor compared to everyone else." Not here. Santino (who speaks without an accent, which is hard to get used to) is a loving terrible actor. Still, it might be a better movie than the first one. It doesn't have Phil Hartman, but it also doesn't have Jake Lloyd.
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Dec 4, 2014 09:25
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I would legit lose my poo poo if this match happened. There would be human poo poo all over Reseda. I mean more human poo poo than normal.
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Dec 4, 2014 09:32
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WrasslorMonkey posted:Pretend I did this in a timely manner Wrasslor, you son of a bitch!  
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Dec 4, 2014 09:38
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Gavok posted:I'd love to listen to the Colt podcast, but I just finished sitting through Jingle All the Way 2 and I need some alone time for a while. Are..........are you one of the guys on the WHM podcast???? Why would you watch that on purpose?
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Dec 4, 2014 09:41
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Jiro posted:Are..........are you one of the guys on the WHM podcast???? Why would you watch that on purpose? HEY KEWWWLL! 
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Dec 4, 2014 09:46
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I love that Punk said WWE's contracts aren't worth the paper they're printed on, because if they were legitimately enforceable, they wouldn't have settled with him. "You can't put a No-Compete Clause on an independent contractor. Period." 
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Dec 4, 2014 09:53
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I love that Punk said WWE's contracts aren't worth the paper they're printed on, because if they were legitimately enforceable, they wouldn't have settled with him.
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Dec 4, 2014 10:00
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Jiro posted:Are..........are you one of the guys on the WHM podcast???? Why would you watch that on purpose? I watched it for review purposes. Same reason I watched Christmas Bounty, Scooby-Doo: WrestleMania Mystery and Leprechaun: Origins.
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Dec 4, 2014 10:01
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Onmi posted:Well yeah, think of most wrestlers? think they're going to have the money to fight the WWE's lawyers in a court? I mean... I'm sure there's SOME ruling in the 90's about a No-Compete being legally enforced, and in that case, there's a set legal precedent so... that puts it in the favor of the WWE. But I don't know enough about American Law to tell if such a case happened Depends on the state but in most places they're unenforceable or easy to have thrown out if you can afford a lawyer. Besides, they're independent contractors!
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Onmi posted:Well yeah, think of most wrestlers? think they're going to have the money to fight the WWE's lawyers in a court? I mean... I'm sure there's SOME ruling in the 90's about a No-Compete being legally enforced, and in that case, there's a set legal precedent so... that puts it in the favor of the WWE. But I don't know enough about American Law to tell if such a case happened
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Dec 4, 2014 10:06
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Onmi posted:Well yeah, think of most wrestlers? think they're going to have the money to fight the WWE's lawyers in a court? I mean... I'm sure there's SOME ruling in the 90's about a No-Compete being legally enforced, and in that case, there's a set legal precedent so... that puts it in the favor of the WWE. But I don't know enough about American Law to tell if such a case happened This is the exact thing WWE wants its' wrestlers to think. "Well, they wouldn't put this clause in there if they couldn't enforce it!  "Basically WWE counts on their wrestlers to be like the average person: easily confused and intimidated by legalese. The minute someone does their homework and retains a reasonably competent lawyer, WWE tends to go right for the settlement rather than risk having their business practices scrutinized in court.
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Dec 4, 2014 10:10
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Gavok posted:I watched it for review purposes. Same reason I watched Christmas Bounty, Scooby-Doo: WrestleMania Mystery and Leprechaun: Origins. Oh I see you're one of those self flagellating types like with what that Tom Hanks movie where he's looking for Jesus with Amelie or some poo poo.  Sydney Bottocks posted:This is the exact thing WWE wants its' wrestlers to think. "Well, they wouldn't put this clause in there if they couldn't enforce it! To be fair, dudes that take concussions over and over again aren't really going to remember much after a while. So WWE probably has years of this exact thing working out. Jiro fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Dec 4, 2014 |
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Jiro posted:Oh I see you're one of those self flagellating types like with what that Tom Hanks movie where he's looking for Jesus with Amelie or some poo poo. The paycheck makes it easier. Also, I'm genuinely pumped for the Ambrose movie. One important fact people are ignoring about Jingle All the Way 2: Sure, it's a sequel to a terrible movie from 18 years ago. Sure, it stars a groan-worthy, gimmicky comedian and the second biggest piece of star power comes from a C-list wrestler who can't act. But nobody ever brings up that it's directed by the guy who did Chairman of the Board starring Carrot Top. Truly, this is a cocktail of crap.
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Gavok posted:Chairman of the Board You spelt it wrong.
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Daniel Bryan posted:So if Dr. Lucha from F4W is to be believed, Rey is going to be back with WWE because they're giving him a bunch of money to stay and Rey likes money. The impression is he won't be doing much wrestling but WWE wants a latino star and he's all they got. Until Kalisto comes up.
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Given that Rowan's vignettes about the Wyatt breakup had absolutely nothing in common with what he's doing now, his face turn is probably one of those things someone winged in five minutes once Sheamus got hurt. "Yeah, we'll roll with that, good plan."
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Dec 4, 2014 11:04
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Jerusalem posted:You spelt it wrong. Bless you, Norm.
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triplexpac posted:This is why I'm very careful to not like any wrestlers or commentators or bosses. They all come out as rapists or murderers in the end. Fixed
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Dec 4, 2014 12:27
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Listening to the second Punk podcast, it increasingly seems like WWE is run like a cult that tries really hard to get people to forget there's a world outside of the WWE. You don't get opportunities, they hand you gifts. They take anything that someone might achieve on their own and spin it into something they're giving you. They take away any personal responsibility. It's almost like an abusive relationship. I wonder who it was that forwarded Punk the email chain about the game cover.
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Dec 4, 2014 12:41
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The "quiet genius weird guy Rowan" thing would work better if they didn't hit the audience over the head with it by having the interviewer talk about his IQ and say he's trained in classic guitar and a famous winemaker or whatever. I'm pretty sure people in this thread were already asking stuff like "is he some kind of brainwashed super genius, or something?" before that interview, so they were doing a good job of subtly hinting at that without dropping a bunch of blatant expository dialogue.
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Dec 4, 2014 12:48
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Jerusalem posted:You spelt it wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whN9JJ74dPw
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Shine posted:The "quiet genius weird guy Rowan" thing would work better if they didn't hit the audience over the head with it by having the interviewer talk about his IQ and say he's trained in classic guitar and a famous winemaker or whatever. I'm pretty sure people in this thread were already asking stuff like "is he some kind of brainwashed super genius, or something?" before that interview, so they were doing a good job of subtly hinting at that without dropping a bunch of blatant expository dialogue. You see, Shine, The Inexplicably Amazing Big Red Erick Rowan is a savant, which means genius.
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DrVenkman posted:Listening to the second Punk podcast, it increasingly seems like WWE is run like a cult that tries really hard to get people to forget there's a world outside of the WWE. You don't get opportunities, they hand you gifts. They take anything that someone might achieve on their own and spin it into something they're giving you. They take away any personal responsibility. It's almost like an abusive relationship. The way Punk tells it it's like Punk was on the cusp of becoming a mainstream celebrity (or at least all over the shop in the public eye) and WWE did everything in it's power to stop that happening. Like the WWE wants their wrestlers to become big but only if they're the guys who won't become too big for their britches. Also highlights a problem with the WWE and big buisness in general that they'll stuff a bunch of legal sounding mumbo jumbo into their contracts with no actual basis in law and hope that they'll get away with it because nobody has the money to take them to task on it.
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Batista was just confirmed as one of the villains in the next James Bond movie, so with that and Guardians of the Galaxy 2/other Marvel movies I dont think hes going back to WWE any time soon.
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lomzus posted:Batista was just confirmed as one of the villains in the next James Bond movie, so with that and Guardians of the Galaxy 2/other Marvel movies I dont think hes going back to WWE any time soon. What if he really really likes wrestling
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lomzus posted:Batista was just confirmed as one of the villains in the next James Bond movie, so with that and Guardians of the Galaxy 2/other Marvel movies I dont think hes going back to WWE any time soon. Good for him. They had one of the stars of one of the biggest movies of all time and they did nothing to capitalise on that. I don't even think he got a mention. It's weird how WWE wants to be mainstream and then seems to shun any opportunity that presents itself. If Batista was in a WWE production you wouldn't hear the end of it .
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