Zephro posted:

It is closed at night.

Also if you're more than 8 people and want to cross it, you need to apply for permission beforehand, because otherwise you might Protest, and that's not what we want.

Also you might well have to buy tickets for it.

Also no, there isn't a general right of way.

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

What's to stop protest groups organizing into small 7 person teams and starting a protest while already on the bridge?

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

What's to stop protest groups organizing into small 7 person teams and starting a protest while already on the bridge?

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

What's to stop protest groups organizing into small 7 person teams and starting a protest while already on the bridge?

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We provide evidence on the effect of property transaction taxes (stamp duty) on house prices, the timing of house purchases, and the volume of house purchases. To address these questions, we exploit administrative stamp duty records covering the universe of property transactions in the UK from 2004-2012 along with compelling sources of quasi-experimental variation. First, discontinuous jumps in the stamp duty at threshold property prices—notches—allow us to estimate the effect of the tax on house prices. Second, anticipated and unanticipated changes in the tax schedule allow us to estimate the dynamics of price responses and timing effects on house
transactions. Third, a stimulus program that temporarily exempted certain properties from tax—a stamp duty holiday—allows us to provide micro evidence on both timing and extensive margin responses to macro stimulus policy.

We find that the effect of transaction taxes on house prices is large (between 200-500% of the tax itself) and that dynamic adjustment to changes in transaction taxes is very fast. We also find that the timing of house transactions responds sharply to anticipated tax increases. Finally, temporary cuts in transaction taxes successfully stimulate housing market activity in the short run—an elimination of the tax increases transaction volume by about 20%—followed by a slump in activity after the policy is withdrawn. However, post-stimulus reversal is far from complete (between 30-40% of the initial boost), implying that stimulus has a long-run extensive margin
effect in addition to a pure timing effect. This contradicts recent findings in the literature and has potentially important implications for evaluating macro stimulus policy.

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"There's this chance to stitch London together, and with something that isn't just about treating the river as an obstacle to breach," Heatherwick told the BBC.

"Instead this will be a place to linger and look at the most incredible city in the world, and be able to stay in that position without having a bus come past or a car or a lorry or a motorbike."

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

What's to stop protest groups organizing into small 7 person teams and starting a protest while already on the bridge?

FaceBook posted:

I would really like to have this debate in public face to face. To see what people have to say…

My parents made me homeless at 15. I had nowhere to live, no clothes, no money and I actually had to leave the apprenticeship I was training with as social services couldn’t find me any where to stay locally. I have no GCSE’s and wasn’t given another opportunity to re sit them. Like a caged animal I was transported every week to a different b&b or children’s home, I was always miles away from any kind of family at all and still to this day my family relations are limited.

I was on the missing persons register at least 5 times throughout the duration of my teens as I was always so desperate to escape!

At 16, I was homeless, I wasn’t yet an adult but I wasn’t a priority for the government either. I spent nearly 1 and a half years living rough, on the streets on strangers sofas, being abused by grown men falling out of nightclubs at 3am, followed by groups of teenagers, beaten up by adults and left for dead and the reason for this was because my benefit that I qualified for, left with nothing, left me with no home, no food, no clothes and no one to ask for help. I got £30 a week, I was expected to cover all of these things with this!? Utterly ridiculous. But funnily enough I coped for another year as not one person gave me any help or advice in understanding why I wasn’t being paid a reasonable amount. I had no choice but to find a job, I suffered for a long time without a home, because I am gay, of course I cannot accidentally get pregnant and it was never something I thought about until now in my mid twenties but it would have been so much easier to be housed if I had a child. It gives you automatic rights to a house or flat!?! Because I was a care leaver I was offered a house at 19, which is miles away from the nearest city or town, was in a very poor condition when I moved in and was too expensive for me to afford. I have now been here over 5 years and after being made redundant without any pay. I am now working three jobs to pay the bills and the rent, I still struggle every month and I haven’t got a penny for Christmas, no money whatsoever, I cannot afford to save and it astounds me that the message we are giving the next generation is that Christmas is about getting stuff your parents can’t afford. Instead of being thankful that they have a home and a family at the possibly the loneliest time of the year for a lot people!

Here’s a message, whilst you’re all justifying or judging these peoples lives and actions… Do something to help, give tins or long life food to food banks! Do something that makes a difference to someone with nothing. I have only touched on 20% of my story and I have kept it very PG.

I would give anything to have had a family Christmas in the last ten years, I’d also give anything to find a better job, but nonetheless I have a job and for that I am thankful! No job is beneath anyone, money is money, minimum wage or £30,000 a year. We all have to start somewhere!

Trust me if a 24 year old with no qualifications, severe mental health issues and a past that haunts them everyday can get out and get employed by 3 different employers then anyone can. If you can actually try had enough you can do almost anything.
 
(Link to story in the daily mail ‘jobless couple spend £1,500 on Christmas for their two children).

Zephro posted:

Policemen with truncheons?

I think Mark Thomas tried to organise something like this when they banned protesting outside Parliament unless you had a permission slip from the headmaster the police. They wanted people to do hundreds of individual protests all at the same time. Dunno what happened.

EvilGenius posted:

This doing the rounds on Facebook:


TLDR; woman leaves home at 15, string of homelessness and abuse due to lack of gvmt help. But it's OK, because she tried hard and got 3 jobs which barely get her by now.

I'm pretty convinced this is a Daily Mail plant, or they paid her to write it. Is she saying that government sanctioned abuse and homelessness to prod you into finding work is OK? I suppose she hasn't even considered the fact that she got lucky in finding work, and that others might live in places where there genuinely aren't any, or have conditions that make it impossible. Or how about the fact that private sector wages are so hosed that she needs 3 jobs to barely get by?

The number one thing that wound me up about it though is what I call the S Club 7 effect. As in Don't Stop, Never Give Up. It's easy to convey that message when it worked for you. It's confirmation bias. This woman is literally saying if she can do it, anyone can, which just isn't true, and is the kind of attitude that is making and keeping tens of thousands homeless and in poverty.

EvilGenius posted:

This doing the rounds on Facebook:


TLDR; woman leaves home at 15, string of homelessness and abuse due to lack of gvmt help. But it's OK, because she tried hard and got 3 jobs which barely get her by now.

I'm pretty convinced this is a Daily Mail plant, or they paid her to write it. Is she saying that government sanctioned abuse and homelessness to prod you into finding work is OK? I suppose she hasn't even considered the fact that she got lucky in finding work, and that others might live in places where there genuinely aren't any, or have conditions that make it impossible. Or how about the fact that private sector wages are so hosed that she needs 3 jobs to barely get by?

The number one thing that wound me up about it though is what I call the S Club 7 effect. As in Don't Stop, Never Give Up. It's easy to convey that message when it worked for you. It's confirmation bias. This woman is literally saying if she can do it, anyone can, which just isn't true, and is the kind of attitude that is making and keeping tens of thousands homeless and in poverty.

EvilGenius posted:

There's also the link to the barely related story of the family on benefits that allegedly spent £1,500 in their two kids at Christmas - a story which is meant to convey benefits as being overly generous, which completely contradicts what this woman said about her experience on benefits. It also implies support of current government policy - the same government who don't want any benefits at all for people under 25.

Also, I had a mate who left college and went straight onto JSA and was on £55 a week, despite the fact that he lived with his parents, and this will have been around 2002. How come this care leaver was on £30 a week, five years ago?

DesperateDan posted:

The message is "people are selfish, teenage sluts get houses, I slave away to survive and I'm grateful for the chance for it". It's daily mail fodder of the highest caliber, save that she's gay. Similar poo poo gets thrown up regularly, like the "I could be getting benefits but I'm proud and not a scrounger so I work myself into an early grave" stories, or that ATOS arsewipe who was all "I'm disabled and I can do it, everyone else is lazy". It doesn't matter if it's real or not, it's very effective propaganda because its hard to argue against without pointing out the logical fallacies right away which bores the poo poo out of the average commenter who doesn't want facts or logic when a cuddly image of a "try hard striver who is getting along in today's Britain" comes along.

gently caress facebook, burn humanity into the ground imho

Seaside Loafer posted:

Cant we spend all this money/attention on some sort of incentive to leave program, id gladly get the gently caress out of this shithole in exchange for a crash course in spanish or italian and 5 grand start up money.

EvilGenius posted:

There's also the link to the barely related story of the family on benefits that allegedly spent £1,500 in their two kids at Christmas - a story which is meant to convey benefits as being overly generous, which completely contradicts what this woman said about her experience on benefits. It also implies support of current government policy - the same government who don't want any benefits at all for people under 25.

Also, I had a mate who left college and went straight onto JSA and was on £55 a week, despite the fact that he lived with his parents, and this will have been around 2002. How come this care leaver was on £30 a week, five years ago?

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The British Chancellor of the Exchequer, responsible for setting the UK's budget, today announced plans for a new 25 percent tax intended to close loopholes that presently see multinational companies extracting their profits to lower-tax regimes like Ireland. It has already been described as a "Google tax," though it affects a practice that is widespread across the tech industry and others beyond it: Apple, Amazon, Starbucks, and others have all been subject to scrutiny about the ways in which they account for their profits.

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The Conservative MP Mark Pritchard has been arrested over an allegation of rape.

The Metropolitan police confirmed that a 48-year-old man – understood to be the Tory MP for The Wrekin, in east Shropshire – was arrested on Tuesday in London.

Scotland Yard said he was arrested after voluntarily attending a north London police station and had been bailed until early January.

There was no reply when the Guardian attempted to contact Pritchard’s constituency and parliamentary offices.

LemonDrizzle posted:

Regarde Aduck posted:

Which whiny baby buys these avatars?

Please speak up you little turd and explain why it was worth sending money to some American guy.

Umiapik posted:

The name Mark Pritchard rings a bell. Remind me what the little turd's done in the past.

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For the first five years of his life he was brought up in an orphanage in Hereford,[2] and later grew up in foster care living in a council house. He told his local newspaper that his early years were years of "love and warmth" and that he did not have "a single bad memory" of his time in the orphanage.[3]

He was educated at Aylestone School – a comprehensive school in Hereford – and was quoted in the London Evening Standard as having established The Old Boys Comprehensive Lunch Club, "to show the Conservative Party as a broad church".[citation needed] It was reported that this upset some privately educated MPs, notably Old Etonians.

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Pritchard was at the centre of a political story in 2010 when he had a public confrontation with the Speaker of the House of Commons, who had told him to stand aside in a corridor. Pritchard then told him, "You are not loving royalty, Mr Speaker!" This slogan soon found itself on t-shirts.[18]

Umiapik posted:

The name Mark Pritchard rings a bell. Remind me what the little turd's done in the past.

Guavanaut posted:

Is there a generational requirement there or is one drop good enough?

Zephro posted:

I think Mark Thomas tried to organise something like this when they banned protesting outside Parliament unless you had a permission slip from the headmaster the police. They wanted people to do hundreds of individual protests all at the same time. Dunno what happened.

Umiapik posted:

The name Mark Pritchard rings a bell. Remind me what the little turd's done in the past.

Ddraig posted:

He succeeded, sort of, and set a world record (that has since been beaten) of 20 protest in 20 different places in one day. He basically had a wheelie bin full of permission slips that they were wheeling around while protesting in various locations.

I think the crowning achievement was when he had a police escort into the middle of an anarchist melee so he could protest something (can't remember what exactly)

The New Black posted:

He did a stand-up show about it which is pretty good (I have it on audio). Funniest bit for me was when they realised the law didn't specify what form the written request had to take and were sending them in iced on cakes and so on.

Ddraig posted:

I think the crowning achievement was when he had a police escort into the middle of an anarchist melee so he could protest something (can't remember what exactly)

Oberleutnant posted:

sometimes the uk is good + cool