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as much as I hate perl I do have to give it credit for actually making all that object and array referencing stuff nicely explicit and not concealing the mechanics an array can't contain other arrays, only references (or numbers or strings) but a reference can point to another array (or any variable) so when you copy the array, you do indeed get a copy of everything in it, including the reference, and obviously the copy of the reference refers to the same array that the original reference did
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Papes posted:what's the best resource for learning how to use laTex? a hammer so you can pound your head with it until you forget about learning latex
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a good start
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Shaggar posted:a hammer so you can pound your head with it until you forget about learning latex
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are there any cross-platform UI libraries that are not rear end i have just started loving about with swt but it feels like some visual basic 6 poo poo so i might give Qt a try instead see if it feels less 1998
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penus de milo posted:are there any cross-platform UI libraries that are not rear end qt is the best cross platform ui library by far
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penus de milo posted:are there any cross-platform UI libraries that are not rear end jquery
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Shaggar posted:a hammer so you can pound your head with it until you forget about learning latex i had a group project last year with 6 other guys. one of them wasnt a CS student, but was a psychology student from the year above us looking for some easy credits (lol) he keeps pushing for us to use latex to write a sh itty report. then he sits back and we have to end up doing it while he claims he doesnt know how to program or use latex anywa
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hobbesmaster posted:qt is the best cross platform ui library by far this is my experience as well
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wxwidgets might be ok i dont know but wxpython is bad
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also honestly, these days swing isn't all that bad.
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browsers are for ui if you're afraid of being called a full stack dev then use the new javafx poo poo, whatever they call it. or just use swing, it doesn't look that bad. or qt I guess but I haven't used qt. you should really use the browser though
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dbcooper posted:Ok, I'll bite. i just said it because it rhymed a bit
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Forgall posted:I wasn't interviewing a guy with ten page resume, but my boss showed a thing like that to me once to ask for my opinion. It was more like a crazy person manifesto than a resume really. these are my favorite
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uncurable mlady posted:browsers are for ui this is so unbelievably wrong
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rotor posted:this is so unbelievably wrong do tell I mean, it's not like there doesn't exist a staggeringly vast array of useful components that will let you create an interface that runs on every OS and device you could possibly care about with a markup and styling language that's trivial to use not to mention you're able to abstract computation away for many tasks and dramatically increase the amount of individual devices you can run your software on since pretty much everything can run a browser the modern web browser is possibly the greatest runtime and presentation layer we've ever seen and some people just refuse to believe
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uncurable mlady posted:the modern web browser is possibly the greatest runtime and presentation layer we've ever seen this is true and also incredibly sad
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Arcsech posted:this is true and also incredibly sad well, yes
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clearly you should use QtWebKit then
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Arcsech posted:this is true and also incredibly sad nope cross-platform runtime and presentation, maybe
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uncurable mlady posted:do tell I'm the complete ignorance of any desktop software the only thing browsers do better is they're mostly platform-agnostic, mostly.
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if you think that the browser is better than .net/cocoa/linux poo poo never program again please
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the best application container is one that has a button that completely trashes your application state unless you take a lot of precautions with both the client code and the backend design
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when did some programmer in junior high i wanted to see if you could make a vb program delete everything in C:/windows or simething it could atl east to a degree that hosed me up
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webapps have their place, but it isnt for so many many things. some things just need to be a loving program. i had a fallen through contract recently where at the last minute they demanded their data entry application be a webapp because it would be to much hassle to update on the factory floor, bullshit. they wanted snappy and safe and they want run it through a loving browser. extra layer of poo poo complexity and stylesheets and html and poo poo componants. i told them they were wrong and to get back to me when the arsehole who decided this was nescessary failed
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:when did some programmer in junior high i wanted to see if you could make a vb program delete everything in C:/windows
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rotor posted:the best application container is one that has a button that completely trashes your application state unless you take a lot of precautions with both the client code and the backend design you mean back or refresh?
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Stringent posted:you mean back or refresh? oh right, two buttons
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Yeah sure boss I'll whip up a quick gui for that Ships him an entire Web server and a shortcut to 127.0.0.1:6858 No boss that's the app it runs in the browser because that's how you make good uis
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Bloody posted:Yeah sure boss I'll whip up a quick gui for that I had to do this once but it was because it was software that was to be run on an aircraft carrier (it was training software for marines not anything cool)
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tbh, there's very few native apps made well enough to surpass what a webthing could do, especially these days. Even fewer that connect to a server. What you get with native app - Deep integration with os, notifications, etc - better local storage access - Faster What you lose - peace of mind that your state is synchronized with server Sadly, apple apps that are the worst offenders. Calendar, mail, contacts, radar, itunes.
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