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Realy the best resolution to the whole Toph arc would be for one of her daughters/Opal to be in threatening situation only for a random wall of earth to save them. It then cuts to Toph sitting in the swamp saying "Idiot" or something.
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Dec 6, 2014 03:10
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Darth Walrus posted:Kinda wish Zhu Li's betrayal had had a little more boom. I mean, with all the work she did to get into Kuvira's good graces, surely she could come up with something more spectacular than 'steal a component from the superweapon I'm building'? She was trying to do just that, in the first scene where her and Jr are testing the gun she tries pretty hard to have him stop fixing it and run so it would blow up. I figured the implication was that she was also the one who'd chipped that component and others in the past as intentional sabotage. Also, while her actions didn't end up causing direct harm, her actions combined with that Bolin and the Beifongs did resulted in Kuvira suffering a humiliating setback in front of her assembled troops. Not as impressive as blowing them to hell maybe, but every little bit helps.
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Dec 6, 2014 03:13
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MrAristocrates posted:Thread title changed. I hope we can all get along now. Using an anime reference to deflect accusations of being anime? That's some next level thread titling right there.
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Dec 6, 2014 03:23
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So was Zhu Li was going to Varrick herself and the assembled army? Her and Varrick seem like peas in a pod.
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Dec 6, 2014 03:49
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MrAristocrates posted:Thread title changed. I hope we can all get along now. Sell out
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Dec 6, 2014 03:57
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Quixotic1 posted:So was Zhu Li was going to Varrick herself and the assembled army? Her and Varrick seem like peas in a pod. Varrick and Zhu Li have the best written romance in the entire franchise. Yes I realize the horrible enormity of what I'm suggesting.
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Dec 6, 2014 03:59
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My only problem I have with this episode is why didn't Toph wreck the superweapon? She was right there and is supposed to still be one of the best earthbenders and the best metalbender in the world!
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Dec 6, 2014 04:06
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Syndlig posted:My only problem I have with this episode is why didn't Toph wreck the superweapon? She was right there and is supposed to still be one of the best earthbenders and the best metalbender in the world! She didn't feel like it 
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Dec 6, 2014 04:24
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Dec 6, 2014 04:28
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Syndlig posted:My only problem I have with this episode is why didn't Toph wreck the superweapon? She was right there and is supposed to still be one of the best earthbenders and the best metalbender in the world! Didn't you hear? Her back was killing her!  Man, though, that kinda puts things into perspective. Jeong-Jeong, Pakku, Piandao, Bumi, and Iroh attacked Ba Sing Se by themselves and they all looked to be around Toph's age, except for Piandao.
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Dec 6, 2014 04:31
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Tbh I was hoping that someone would hug Toph and crack her back and then she'd go 'Huh, suddenly I wanna smash some chumps.' for some reason.
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Dec 6, 2014 04:56
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Still, it's nice to know that it's not a meta thing and benders actually got weaker over the years. Toph iced all those mechs instantly in one move...
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Dec 6, 2014 05:01
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RareAcumen posted:Tbh I was hoping that someone would hug Toph and crack her back and then she'd go 'Huh, suddenly I wanna smash some chumps.' for some reason. In the finale, Kuvira will blast Toph into a boulder and a conveniently placed jagged rock will crack her back for her.
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Dec 6, 2014 05:07
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I'm still pretty sad we're never going to see one of the old gang go Supersaiyan on some chump villains.
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Dec 6, 2014 05:10
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good episode, very good fight.
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Dec 6, 2014 05:23
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Darth Walrus posted:Kinda wish Zhu Li's betrayal had had a little more boom. I mean, with all the work she did to get into Kuvira's good graces, surely she could come up with something more spectacular than 'steal a component from the superweapon I'm building'? Notice that she was hoping that the weapon would be abandoned and blown up that one time, so I guess that was her full plan, it just got messed up.
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Dec 6, 2014 05:34
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Super.Jesus posted:Still, it's nice to know that it's not a meta thing and benders actually got weaker over the years. Toph iced all those mechs instantly in one move... Man, imagine what Bumi would've been like if ATLA took place forty years into the war instead of a hundred. In It For The Tank posted:In the finale, Kuvira will blast Toph into a boulder and a conveniently placed jagged rock will crack her back for her. She'll also turn out to be freakishly ripped as well.
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Dec 6, 2014 05:51
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I posted this scene before, but again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGSuHKi38PA There is no question even child Toph would have completely demolished those mechs without any trouble.
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Dec 6, 2014 05:57
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Syndlig posted:My only problem I have with this episode is why didn't Toph wreck the superweapon? She was right there and is supposed to still be one of the best earthbenders and the best metalbender in the world! They're all metalbenders there. They'd just bend it back together. I'm glad they refrained from just having the old crew show up and fix everything. The fanservice is overt enough as it is.
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Dec 6, 2014 06:39
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Next episode clip. Junior's not long for this world, I'm sure.
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Dec 6, 2014 06:49
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BrianWilly posted:Next episode clip. Are monsters capable of love?
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Dec 6, 2014 06:55
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Kuvira's relationship with Baatu Jr. being genuine would do a lot to humanize her.
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Dec 6, 2014 06:58
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Episode was pretty good, but the "You give metal benders a bad name" was a dud both in reading and in writing. She's Avatar Hitler, is that the best they could've come up with?
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Dec 6, 2014 08:02
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BrianWilly posted:Next episode clip. Man, it never really clicked with me that Kuvira's army has an adopted hairstyle. Its actually rather creepy and I don't think I'll be able to unsee it.
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Dec 6, 2014 08:15
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Caros posted:Man, it never really clicked with me that Kuvira's army has an adopted hairstyle. Its actually rather creepy and I don't think I'll be able to unsee it.
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Dec 6, 2014 08:17
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achillesforever6 posted:Also that their foot soldiers are wearing Stahlhelm helmets as soon as I saw those helmets I was just like "ok, we get it, she's Hitler  " but I guess if you're gonna commit then you may as well go whole hog. It's not like Ozai was subtle either
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Dec 6, 2014 08:53
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TheModernAmerican posted:Episode was pretty good, but the "You give metal benders a bad name" was a dud both in reading and in writing. She's Avatar Hitler, is that the best they could've come up with?
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Dec 6, 2014 09:19
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Maybe but it was also lame I really wanted her to pull some Magneto poo poo and gravity squeeze the cannon but I guess her back was bothering her
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Dec 6, 2014 11:17
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Quixotic1 posted:So was Zhu Li was going to Varrick herself and the assembled army? Her and Varrick seem like peas in a pod. Syndlig posted:My only problem I have with this episode is why didn't Toph wreck the superweapon? She was right there and is supposed to still be one of the best earthbenders and the best metalbender in the world! They really went through hoops to have that canon survive the encounter, didn't they? Toph didn't touch it for somewhat flimsy reasons, and Bolin, the guy who could have drowned it in lava, was off saving Zhu Li.
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Dec 6, 2014 14:49
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Realistically destroying the cannon would have only bought them some time.
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Dec 6, 2014 14:52
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The Sharmat posted:Kuvira's relationship with Baatu Jr. being genuine would do a lot to humanize her. Man, that makes me wish that instead of "the original metalbender vs. Kuvira", we got some metal vs. lightning. Ah, well. Too late for that.
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Dec 6, 2014 15:05
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The like the whole 'old martial arts master' when its used in this show to show how even when elderly benders are still extremely dangerous to mess with; even though they probably have less endurance than before. Toph's mannerisms and body language, the way she pointed at Kuvira while looking away was dead on for what I remembered.
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Dec 6, 2014 15:11
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The best character moment in the episode was when Lin was ranting at Toph about not wanting to see her ever again, and the pain and disappointment of it actually visually showed on Toph's face. That was a really good scene.
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Dec 6, 2014 15:19
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JT Jag posted:I'm guessing the further you bend something away from your body, the less control you have over it. So something that is directly on your body, like armor on a metalbender, they'd be able to bend quicker than a metalbender ten feet away trying to bend it. It'd probably be like, they'd feel a tingle of the other metalbender trying to bend their armor and they undo the bending with hardly a thought. I imagine relativity affects bending telekinesis as well. DrSunshine posted:The best character moment in the episode was when Lin was ranting at Toph about not wanting to see her ever again, and the pain and disappointment of it actually visually showed on Toph's face. That was a really good scene. I felt that, I even said "Ow." out loud. The heavy breathing too.
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Dec 6, 2014 15:23
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DrSunshine posted:The best character moment in the episode was when Lin was ranting at Toph about not wanting to see her ever again, and the pain and disappointment of it actually visually showed on Toph's face. That was a really good scene. Yes, indeed. I really felt sorry for Toph at that moment.
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Dec 6, 2014 15:24
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TheModernAmerican posted:Episode was pretty good, but the "You give metal benders a bad name" was a dud both in reading and in writing. She's Avatar Hitler, is that the best they could've come up with?
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Dec 6, 2014 19:21
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I feel like this show is failing to make Kuvira scary as a personal threat by not letting her win anything, and it's kind of jarring. Kuvira is allowed to beat up on nameless mooks to demonstrate her capabilities, but once a named, important character shows up she is no longer allowed to win. People in the show keep acting like Kuvira beat Korra in their duel, but actually watching it, that's not what happened at all. Kuvira might have had a slight advantage before Korra went into the Avatar State, but once she did, Korra demolished her without any trouble. The only reason she lost was due to a freak out, and that had only happened after she had already very clearly beaten Kuvira. Trying to sell that as Korra losing is ridiculous because she only lost in the most absolutely technical of ways, and even that had nothing to do with Kuvira's own abilities. Later Su goes to kill Kuvira. But rather then actually fighting Su, she just outsmarts her. While this is good because it shows she's smart, it doesn't represent her as an actual, personal threat like she's probably supposed to be. It makes her a good planner and schemer. This episode, she finally gets into a fight with Su, but she doesn't win. Su and her are, roughly, evenly matched, maybe, because Su eventually retreats when it becomes clear that they're outnumbered. It still doesn't really show Kuvira as a threat, other then it's better she fought evenly with Su instead of Lin, whose been a chump for the majority of the series. Then Toph shows up. And here is where an actual, good way to show how strong Kuvira is would be. Toph is old, and while clearly powerful, it would absolutely be reasonable for an old Earthbender who hasn't really been Earthbending to fight in a long time to lose to someone who has been, and it would make Kuvira seem like a threat because she beat one of the old heroes. It would help sell Toph's later statement that 'I'm too old for this', had she actually lost. Instead she shows up, chumps everyone, then goes 'eh I don't want to be bothered finishing the job.' It kind of makes everyone in the scene look like poo poo, especially Kuvira. She's not even worth this awesomely powerful Earthbender and Metalbender's time.
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Dec 6, 2014 19:28
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Miss Nomer posted:Would this have been better? 
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Dec 6, 2014 19:29
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Stallion Cabana posted:I feel like this show is failing to make Kuvira scary as a personal threat by not letting her win anything, and it's kind of jarring. Ignoring the part where she's actually won every fight we've seen her in, do you think pure martial skill is the only thing that can make a kung fu villain threatening or something? She's a charismatic fascist. Those have a real world history of being incredibly dangerous people.
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