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maffew buildings posted:Punk is a larger than average guy but i don't see how he isn't going to look smaller and physically outclassed at middleweight. RIP CM Phil I'm of a similar build as punk and I would absolutely go down to 170 if I were to fight. Though again I have no idea what Punk's actual weight is. I'm 6'2" 190 fwiw.
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Dangersim posted:I'm of a similar build as punk and I would absolutely go down to 170 if I were to fight. Though again I have no idea what Punk's actual weight is. Were you planning on going pro? Our online relationship (you telling me when I've done something stupid on a forum) means that I would be very invested in hootin' and hollerin' for you to kill a man.
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I too would encourage you not to take the doctor's advice to use pain medication after you get smashed in an MMA bout and injured. Here for u bro
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Punk is like 6'1" or 6'2" and 220 according to wrestling so yes he's going to cut 15 pounds and get mauled
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Captain Log posted:Were you planning on going pro? Our online relationship (you telling me when I've done something stupid on a forum) means that I would be very invested in hootin' and hollerin' for you to kill a man. Haha no, though I plan at least taking an amateur fight if I can get my schedule to where I can train seriously and consistently enough (I've really only had the time for bjj recently). If this occurs I would be sure to post video so people can enjoy my victory or take pleasure in watching me get beat up.
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maffew buildings posted:I too would encourage you not to take the doctor's advice to use pain medication after you get smashed in an MMA bout and injured. Here for u bro 
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Just make sure you don't fight like that boring guy in your avatar and you'll get yourself some fans.
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I like Condit because he gives tall skinny guys hope.
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step one is find a copy of "Das Kapital". step two is read the title. step three is go look how UFC PPV earnings are down for 2014.
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maffew buildings posted:step one is find a copy of "Das Kapital". step two is read the title. step three is go look how UFC PPV earnings are down for 2014. I know. I still can't. AAAHHHHHHHH!! Though I'm all for Dana and UFC going all Pride on our asses to boost ratings!
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Dangersim posted:I like Condit because he gives tall skinny guys hope. Gangly violence monster
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maffew buildings posted:Punk is like 6'1" or 6'2" and 220 according to wrestling so yes he's going to cut 15 pounds and get mauled Wrestling lies to make people seem taller because Vince loves huge men so he's probably closer to like 5'10" or something.
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Luigi Thirty posted:So his ceiling is Jeff Hardy? Jeff Hardy isn't someone's ceiling, Jeff Hardy jumps off ceilings. I really like CM Punk. I'm glad he's getting the chance to live a dream. He's going to get slaughtered. But you can't spell slaughtered without laughter! Everyone, no matter which side of this wacky crossover they're coming from, should focus on how entertaining this is going to be.
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Yeah uh the rule is subtract 3 inches and 25 pounds from wrestling height so he's probably 5'10-5'11 and maybe 200 when he's fat Kevin Nash (legit 6'10) said he was inspired to take up wrestling because Hulk Hogan (billed 6'10) walked past him at a show and he saw he had like 3 or 4 inches on the Hulkster.
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WWE has a proud history in MMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuHwcqeR2yc
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vainman posted:WWE has a proud history in MMA Pfft, at one point WWE was considering putting together an MMA promotion built around Bob Sapp. Now that's an alternate universe I want to live in.
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Great White Hope posted:Pfft, at one point WWE was considering putting together an MMA promotion built around Bob Sapp. I want to live in a world where this replaced UFC as the ultimate combat sport. 
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Here's Finnish Pro-Wrestler Tony Halme fighting Randy Couture in the UFC back in the day. That guys credentials were being athletic in his youth, boxing on the side, but mostly lifting lots of weights and being a showman.
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vainman posted:WWE has a proud history in MMA Expected Butterbean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S652hvQaWfY
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1st AD posted:Lol, so CM Punk isn't remotely a blue belt. He's trained infrequently with Rener. Yeah, this is why I don't loving get people saying he's practically a purple belt. Don't you have to have been a blue belt for like 3 years before you're eligible for purple belt consideration under IBJJF rules? (This is where someone tells me that the Gracie Academies go by their own system.) And I don't think it's "he's trained infrequently with Rener." He apparently trains in Chicago (one of the Gracie Breakdowns he featured on had him giving a shout out to someone there IIRC), but given that up until this year he was on the road constantly and was also incredibly banged up, I'm curious as to how well he has been training. It's more "he's been training very infrequently", period. The clips they've had of him rolling on Gracie Breakdowns are interesting. Again, going off foggy memory, but there was one where he was making a fairly common white belt mistake and put himself into a submission fairly easily...and again, I'm saying this as a guy who has been training 2-3 days a week for about 2 years now (ie, not very experienced or knowledgeable.) It's going to be interesting seeing what guys with solid grappling backgrounds are gonna do with Punk, both training and in whatever actual fight he gets. Perdido fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Dec 11, 2014 |
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For the latter part of his career, Punk has always been a somewhat out of shape 210-220 pound dude. Yeah sure, he could put on great matches, but the dude obviously didn't lift much; in fact he called bench pressing a terrible exercise that no one should do because its bad for their shoulders...and well it shows that he's probably never touched a bench. The early part of his career he was in great shape. I think with the right strength and conditioning trainers erasing his stupid opinions on workouts, he could make some real progress in actually getting in shape. Being successful at fighting is a whole different thing though. Auron fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Dec 11, 2014 |
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The fact that he openly says that he's never really sparred with elite guys is the most concerning thing of all. I mean, neither have I, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that sparring properly with someone who is close to your skill level higher or lower is a stressful and painful experience and not very fun. Sure, he's going to be matched up with someone who is a journeyman themselves, but even then, he's going to need to get used to being punched by dudes who want to knock him out. If I were him, I'd be asking dudes to beat the crap out of me while trying their best to not concuss me in the hopes that I can take a punch both physically and mentally.
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MassRafTer posted:I want to live in a world where this replaced UFC as the ultimate combat sport. Still the best thing about Brawl 4 All was them refusing to have Ken Shamrock in the tournament, but allow Dan Severn in it who then proceeded to game the point system by only doing takedowns.
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LobsterMobster posted:Who are the guys that have never lifted A Weight? Demian Maia's mighty Middleweight return.
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cm punk doesn't know who his trainers will be, and he hasn't been working under a coach yet. that's bad
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david carmichael posted:cm punk doesn't know who his trainers will be, and he hasn't been working under a coach yet. that's bad Add to this that according to his interview with Ariel he was planning this for a year. I'm starting to think that he's going to be his own worst enemy in this, and it's going to take some serious management by Dana to keep this going the way the UFC would like.
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Skinty McEdger posted:Add to this that according to his interview with Ariel he was planning this for a year. Yeah, but he's also said he didn't expect to be able to sign/announce until this summer because of his legal situation with WWE. And by planning, I doubt that means much more than thinking about what organization to sign with, rolling more with Rener, and vaguely thinking about what gym he might want to go to. He was still under contract to WWE until June when he got married, and had a year long non-compete forced on him until his lawyer got it cleared up, so I doubt he thought he'd be fighting next year.
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Viper_3000 posted:Yeah, but he's also said he didn't expect to be able to sign/announce until this summer because of his legal situation with WWE. And by planning, I doubt that means much more than thinking about what organization to sign with, rolling more with Rener, and vaguely thinking about what gym he might want to go to. He was still under contract to WWE until June when he got married, and had a year long non-compete forced on him until his lawyer got it cleared up, so I doubt he thought he'd be fighting next year. if he was taking this at all seriously, why would he not want to use that extra time to prepare
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He probably thinks he's naturally better than all these drunk pillhead dudebros and so he does not have to train. It would be consistent.
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Auron posted:6 months seems like a legitimate amount of time to train against born killer psychopaths It would be if he spent every moment of it training with Genki Sudo.
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david carmichael posted:if he was taking this at all seriously, why would he not want to use that extra time to prepare The guy was incredibly hosed up physically and burnt out mentally and I'll believe he genuinely needed some time relaxing and watching hockey while in the process of switching careers. I'm skeptical he'll ever be able to be competitive against anyone other than a hand picked can, but I honestly do believe he'll take it seriously from this point on.
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Thauros posted:The guy was incredibly hosed up physically and burnt out mentally and I'll believe he genuinely needed some time relaxing and watching hockey while in the process of switching careers. hockey isn't on during the summer time
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its the brock lesnar thing: if he hasn't taken it seriously up till now, what makes you believe he's gonna start
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It's gonna be funny when he looks worse than James Toney.
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david carmichael posted:its the brock lesnar thing: if he hasn't taken it seriously up till now, what makes you believe he's gonna start It's certainly fair to question if a guy will be able to deal with getting punched for real when the last fight he was in was apparently many years ago against Teddy Hart outside a Denny's. Obviously way too early to know the answer to that but Punk's never been accused of being lazy even by his detractors. He knows he's way behind the curve and genuinely seems to want to prove to himself and the skeptics he can do this. I think there's a hell of a lot of obstacles in his way but I don't think a lack of work ethic or desire is one of them.
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Can't strike, can't grapple, can't pick a training camp. I have great faith in this ending in a very humorous manner.
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