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Another shutdown would kind of gently caress me over a bit but god it was so loving fun last time I hope they do it again
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Frosted Flake posted:To run with the Canada example, under the current legal rationale, would the Americans have been justified in acting against the FLQ during the October Crisis? Technically there was an armed terrorist group operating within Canada, beyond the abilities of the Canadian police to handle, because the War Measures Act was used. Since Canadian soldiers were employed domestically, and some civil liberties were suspended, does that mean that areas were unserviced by the Canadian state and the American government would be free to act? Wikipedia says military only acted in support of civil authorities, ala Ferguson.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 06:39 |
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ded posted:A 2 day extension. Oh boy. Whole thing passed the House, they also did a short-term 2 day CR to give the Senate time to consider the whole cromnibus. I'm lolling pretty hard over the fact that Boehner almost didn't even get the thing to the floor for a vote, only happened because one GOP Rep changed his vote from nay to yea when they were voting on the rule.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 06:46 |
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Remember when we had a functioning government?
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 06:48 |
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Remember when we had a functioning government? No.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 06:50 |
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Remember when we had a functioning government? What I'm confused about is the fact that they guy who changed his vote is on his way out, he lost his primary. So it's not like Boehner could promise him some plum committee position in the next Congress, I wonder what he offered to get him to change his vote.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 06:54 |
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iyaayas01 posted:What I'm confused about is the fact that they guy who changed his vote is on his way out, he lost his primary. So it's not like Boehner could promise him some plum committee position in the next Congress, I wonder what he offered to get him to change his vote.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 06:55 |
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Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:ActusRhesus is A Good Poster and shouldn't let the DnD clownshoes get to her. Seriously dont let the morons get you down AR. Just make sure you enjoy stirring them into impotent rage to the point where they have to make a really angry tumblr post.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 07:28 |
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iyaayas01 posted:So in non torture/AUMF/legalese news...
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 07:32 |
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Im watching them get super salty about frats in the rolling stone thread. Theres no need to write paragraphs of stuff to get entertaining posts. They barely skim it and just call you an mra pua republicaneither anyway so dont bother.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 07:32 |
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NYFD dropped their PT standards for new firefighters to try and get more women http://nypost.com/2014/12/11/fdny-drops-physical-test-requirement-amid-low-female-hiring-rate/
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 07:48 |
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FAT SLAMPIG posted:NYFD dropped their PT standards for new firefighters to try and get more women One day someones gonna die as a result of that and someone will sue. Should be an interesting case.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 07:51 |
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Just saw this in the dnd thread but didn't see it here. When keeping it e-real goes wrong. http://www.channel4.com/news/unmasked-the-man-behind-top-islamic-state-twitter-account-shami-witness-mehdi ISIS twitter superstar gets his secret identity revealed to be some dude in India.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 08:01 |
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:One day someones gonna die as a result of that and someone will sue. Should be an interesting case. I doubt it. Even if they dropped the physical standard to "as long as you fit reasonably well in the uniform", there's plenty of fat gently caress firefighters around here that still wouldn't pass, and no one has sued their fat asses (that I know of).
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 08:23 |
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Frosted Flake posted:To run with the Canada example, under the current legal rationale, would the Americans have been justified in acting against the FLQ during the October Crisis? Technically there was an armed terrorist group operating within Canada, beyond the abilities of the Canadian police to handle, because the War Measures Act was used. Since Canadian soldiers were employed domestically, and some civil liberties were suspended, does that mean that areas were unserviced by the Canadian state and the American government would be free to act? Eh, why not go all the way and use the powers annexed by the executive the way they have always been used historically; nuke the senate and declare yourself king. Under the bad rationales for why the president can kill peeps (and that's really the issue here, not that america can do stuff unilaterally but that the president can) -We can kill bad guys who threaten national security if we can't get to them by other means -We can kill them even if they are citizens -We can kill them even if they are in the US, if the threat is imminent enough (global/universal nature of the gwot) -The president gets to decide who is a "threat" to national security and what is considered "imminent", with essentially no oversight. Resolved; -Congress is the no.1 threat to the wellbeing and security of America -We cant get at them via the usual means of a functioning civilized nation -The president has the legal right to drone-strike Congress
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 08:24 |
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not caring here posted:I doubt it. Even if they dropped the physical standard to "as long as you fit reasonably well in the uniform", there's plenty of fat gently caress firefighters around here that still wouldn't pass, and no one has sued their fat asses (that I know of). Yea but all firefighters had to have that standard of fitness at one point and they're technically supposed to keep up with it even if some dont. This is a whole other animal.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 08:26 |
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Courthouse posted:Eh, why not go all the way and use the powers annexed by the executive the way they have always been used historically; nuke the senate and declare yourself king. This is why the president has allowed the republicans to gain larger and larger majorities so he can get most of them in one strike. 12 dimensional chess.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 08:27 |
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NPR wants to interview me because of my work with Washington University on Ferguson
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 08:46 |
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Equine Don posted:NPR wants to interview me because of my work with Washington University on Ferguson
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 08:58 |
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I am learning lots from the law stuff thanks.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 10:26 |
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Jarmak posted:I think we're actually largely in agreement but disagree about which exact mechanism is the main trouble point. Yeah. That's exactly it. We're not all that far off. I agree if Yemen is a theater of combat, he was fair game. I am not so sure Yemen was under international law (for us anyway), and I am concerned that Johnson's memo has a lot in it that would suggest either a very loosy goosy definition of "theater of combat" at best or "theater of combat doesn't even matter" at worst. I really don't care Al-Anwaki is dead and I don't doubt he was involved in way more than just propaganda (which if it were *just* writing Inspire magazine, that would also raise some first amendment issues...but I don't buy that this is all he was doing. It wasn't.) but the rationale leaves the door open for some pretty scary future application. And Johnson does a lot of double speak. How he sells it to law schools (blah blah blah international law blah blah blah failed states blah blah blah civilians participating in hostilities) is a lot different than how he sold it at the JSOC legal course, which is a lot closer to the true text of the justifications. I think he misread his audience and thought "these are all Spec War types...they'll love killing people" so he let a little of the PC guard down and was a lot more "honest" than he was at say, Yale. "These guys are just bad people and the rest of the world is too incompetent to do anything about it, so we have the right to take care of it ourselves. And letting the public know how we make those decisions would be bad. They just wouldn't understand how important our job is. 'Murica. " (Which is why the Obama administration will really not be able to do anythign about the CIA torture poo poo, as their thought process has been identical on the drones issue and other NSA poo poo...a fact which Fox news is literally jizzing itself over) What he failed to take into consideration is that, sure, we all generally like the concept of dead terrorists, but we also all generally liked our respective generals, admirals, commodores etc. and didn't want to see them declared war criminals, plus...you know...lawyers, so critical thinking and views on the constitution didn't go out the window. And he's an rear end in a top hat. ActusRhesus fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Dec 12, 2014 |
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zombie303 posted:This thread makes me feel really dumb sometimes. start talking about STEM poo poo again. Then watch the lawyer go *blank state* Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:I lurk this thread because it's the only news thread on this forum I can stand to read and ActusRhesus is A Good Poster and shouldn't let the DnD clownshoes get to her. No I'm not...I just throw a fit if someone disagrees with me, remember. (I still love the complete failure to recognize the misogynistic implications of that statement. Guess I, the fit throwing woman, will just go sit over there in the corner with the angry black man and the other "overly sensitive" minorities and stop talking) And honestly, the irrational vitriol doesn't bother me. I'm a lawyer. I feed off of the hatred of others. I like to think that eventually I will raise their blood pressure to the point of needing heart medication. Which they will need insurance to pay for. Which they can't afford. Thanks Obama. ActusRhesus fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Dec 12, 2014 |
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RonMexicosPitbull posted:Yea but all firefighters had to have that standard of fitness at one point and they're technically supposed to keep up with it even if some dont. This is a whole other animal. Hah, "some don't". http://wtvr.com/2014/07/18/to-fat-or-obese-to-be-a-fireman/ quote:More than 70% of domestic firefighters are overweight or obese, a rate slightly higher than the general population. Yeah, I'm not going to be too concerned if a woman wants to be a firefighter.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:03 |
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ActusRhesus posted:start talking about STEM poo poo again. Speaking of...if any one is using Healthcare.gov for insurance you need to get it in before the 15th to start having insurance by the Jan 1st. Site actually works now (well, mostly).
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:40 |
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Yeah this thread with 200lb lesbian specialist who files away duis talking about constitutional bullshit to pretend shes important makes me feel dumb too
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:42 |
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anne frank fanfic posted:Yeah this thread with 200lb lesbian specialist who files away duis talking about constitutional bullshit to pretend shes important makes me feel dumb too
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:54 |
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ActusRhesus posted:No I'm not...I just throw a fit if someone disagrees with me, remember. (I still love the complete failure to recognize the misogynistic implications of that statement. I'm disappointed you weren't accused of hysteric. Oh hey, it's forums user and mic-dropper Anne Frank Fanfic.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:16 |
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Yeah this is from a while back but I skip legal poo pooGenocide Tendency posted:Ok. You can all you want at this. Shooting a laser from a battleship would be awesome, but we don't have any active battleships. Hell, a cruiser or destroyer or PC would be awesome. Ponce is not one of those. Ponce is not awesome. Ponce is the 1973 El Camino with the base straight-6 of the fleet.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:18 |
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You don't teach yourself to wrench or paint on the new Lambo. You use that grossly unsafe and barely running POS.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:21 |
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Remember when we had a functioning government? When
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:22 |
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Remember, this generation is "too fat to fight". Weight is the number one reason recruits are turned away. Cdn.missionreadiness.org/MR_Too_Fat_to_Fight-1.pdf Curious to know if this still holds true, as this was 2010, and the last time I remember a general making comments was 2012.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:28 |
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anne frank fanfic posted:Yeah this thread with 200lb lesbian specialist who files away duis talking about constitutional bullshit to pretend shes important makes me feel dumb too Who are you, again?
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:29 |
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Never. I mean, it used to function better, but let's not forget we've had fist fights in Congress and a sitting Vice President of the United States shot and killed a former Secretary of the Treasury.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:31 |
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Godholio posted:Never. I mean, it used to function better, but let's not forget we've had fist fights in Congress and a sitting Vice President of the United States shot and killed a former Secretary of the Treasury. I for one would like to see MORE duels.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:36 |
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ActusRhesus posted:Who are you, again? Local village idiot.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:38 |
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ActusRhesus posted:Who are you, again? One of the better FYAD posters. e: EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Local village idiot. Six of one...
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:39 |
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*shhh* I know that. I'm trying to look important.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:42 |
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Local village idiot. My title has been lost
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:49 |
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Cole posted:My title has been lost maybe you can job share. I hear that's a thing now.
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Cole posted:My title has been lost We're backfilling with contractors. You want AFF to be another unemployed vet?
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