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FMguru posted:hangar-queen like a size queen but for lesbians
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 22:44 |
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hahahahahquote:Defense spending analyst Winslow Wheeler concluded from flight evaluation reports that the F-35A "is flawed beyond redemption";[185] in response, program manager Bogdan suggested that pilots worried about being shot down should fly cargo aircraft instead.[186]
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 22:54 |
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the wings, landing gear, engines, and some other parts on the a10 are symmetrical and can be used on either side of the aircraft.
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 22:56 |
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also you can patch holes in the wings w/ whatever you have laying around
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 22:56 |
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yeah the a10 owns and does its job very well, it just happens to be a fairly limited job, so of course they want to replace it with something that does lots of things badly
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 22:58 |
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the limited job it does is required in every single land battle ever. also i bet it could kill boats pretty good too.
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:00 |
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Endless Mike posted:yeah the a10 owns and does its job very well, it just happens to be a fairly limited job, so of course they want to replace it with something that does lots of things badly wow they stopped building them 30 years ago and they're still in service that must mean that the f-35 will last even longer!
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:01 |
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Shaggar posted:also you can patch holes in the wings w/ whatever you have laying around they can also keep flying with absolutely ridiculous amounts of damage, "The aircraft is designed to fly with one engine, one tail, one elevator, and half of one wing missing"
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:02 |
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Endless Mike posted:replace it with something that does lots of things badly
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:03 |
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FMguru posted:the f-22 was the most ridiculously overpriced unnecessary gold-plated hangar-queen aircraft ever designed and procured in the history of aviation well the f22 does fly right and such now. of course as previously stated, all fighter aircraft are useless whether they can get off the ground or not
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:05 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:wow they stopped building them 30 years ago and they're still in service also they're getting new wings that are gonna allow them to remain in service for another 30+ years. Elder Postsman posted:they can also keep flying with absolutely ridiculous amounts of damage, "The aircraft is designed to fly with one engine, one tail, one elevator, and half of one wing missing" the design is so excellent that its amazing it ever got built in the first place
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:05 |
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Shaggar posted:also they're getting new wings that are gonna allow them to remain in service for another 30+ years. the a10 and b52 are partners in getting away with being objectively good craft
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:09 |
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B52 is ~60 years and stil in service also
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:12 |
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there are b-52 pilots whose fathers and grandfathers also flew b-52s
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:15 |
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EMILY BLUNTS posted:B52 is ~60 years and stil in service also its everything a modern bomber needs to be: a pair of wings you can strap a bunch of cruise missiles to and nothing more
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:18 |
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haha and its expected to keep going through 2040
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:19 |
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the big laugh is that the f-35 program was initiated in response to the ridiculous cost overruns of the f-22. the f-35 was supposed to be the cheap everyday all-role workhouse plane, in use across all services and all allies, a common airframe with lots of common and interchangeable parts so they can reap the benefits of efficiencies of scale and mass production ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:21 |
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i'm picturing it, guys building up the b52s talking about the jetsons all "hell yeah flying cars" and 2062 is going to come around with another series of upgrades to the exact plane they're standing it.
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:21 |
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well if it ain't broke
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# ? Dec 11, 2014 23:37 |
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FMguru posted:the f-22 was the most ridiculously overpriced unnecessary gold-plated hangar-queen aircraft ever designed and procured in the history of aviation Nevermind that we really didn't need the anime jet from Ace Combat and the money spent on it was still essentially wasted but at least in the end the thing could possibly do its job on paper. The F-35 Super Grover is quite possibly the worst aircraft since the starfighter (which killed so many pilots the German airforce nicknamed it "The Widowmaker") and will be even more expensive, as well as being forced on most of our allies. edit: also enjoy this vintage LF thread about the F-22 that eventually turned into a Grover helldumping http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3410173&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 Fabricated fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Dec 12, 2014 |
# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:00 |
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Fabricated posted:"The Windowmaker"
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:06 |
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lol, fixed also because it always makes me smile also: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=1457686&pagenumber=186#post391338054
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:08 |
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Fabricated posted:The F-22 was a gigantic overpriced boondoggle but even as much time as I spent laughing at how lovely it was at first it turns out after fixing all of the really stupid-as-poo poo never-should-have-happened problems with it the thing is now a pretty good aircraft. like i said it was a ridiculous plane that should never have been built - and right now it looks like a solid a-10 style bargain compared to the f-35
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:08 |
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EMILY BLUNTS posted:is there a kill count for it yet? has it actually gone on any missions? one's engine got stress faults from a pilot making a fairly standard high-g maneuver later, said engine self destructed by firing a turbine blade through itself, then it tore itself out of the airframe and exploded while the pilot was trying to take off
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:17 |
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Condiv posted:one's engine got stress faults from a pilot making a fairly standard high-g maneuver
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:27 |
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yjsfpos bithc
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:31 |
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Condiv posted:yjsfpos bithc
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:35 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:lol, and also lol at "super grover" earlier fuckin same
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 14:41 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:well the f22 does fly right and such now. but how else are you going to escort bears that wander too close to your borders and troll iranians going after your drones?!
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 15:57 |
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hobbesmaster posted:troll iranians Ask Sheldon adelson l m f a o
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Busta Chimes.wav posted:its everything a modern bomber needs to be: a pair of wings you can strap a bunch of cruise missiles to and nothing more we would have been much better off dumping the f35 budget into updating things like the b52. could put modern turbofans on if and various cargo aircraft and significantly cut the airforce fuel expenditure but nope. polishing and improving what is already out there is boring so we go after the new shiny thing and abandon the old. see for example google's product development and support "strategy".
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 16:47 |
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or, you know, the education system
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 16:51 |
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Shifty Pony posted:we would have been much better off dumping the f35 budget into updating things like the b52. could put modern turbofans on if and various cargo aircraft and significantly cut the airforce fuel expenditure the b-52 shares engines with all the 707 derived platforms. the airforce has literally thousands of the things lying around theres plans for reengining the b-52 with 4 747 engines but see above
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 16:52 |
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Blackula69 posted:or, you know, the education system lol, yeah right
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 16:53 |
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Shifty Pony posted:we would have been much better off dumping the f35 budget into updating things like the b52. could put modern turbofans on if and various cargo aircraft and significantly cut the airforce fuel expenditure one of these things will pay for enormous amounts of cocaine, mistresses, child support, and divorce settlements. The other will not. I leave it as an exercise to the reader to figure out which one.
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 17:09 |
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:one of these things will pay for enormous amounts of cocaine, mistresses, child support, and divorce settlements. The other will not. the taxpayer
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 18:13 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:its u
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 18:52 |
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the f35 seems really futuristic and cool and like something that should totally be a science experiment with tonnes of resources behind it I mean if we lived in the gene Roddenberry universe, post-poverty, post-war and post-capitalism
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# ? Dec 12, 2014 21:47 |
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PleasureKevin posted:the f35 seems really futuristic and cool and like something that should totally be a science experiment with tonnes of resources behind it Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Dec 12, 2014 |
# ? Dec 12, 2014 22:01 |
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Shifty Pony posted:we would have been much better off dumping the f35 budget into updating things like the b52. could put modern turbofans on if and various cargo aircraft and significantly cut the airforce fuel expenditure it only costs about $100,000 a year to update the b52s or something. so we're already doing that.
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# ? Dec 13, 2014 01:44 |