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The Sharmat posted:Korra getting all the past Avatars back is another thing that would piss me off. I don't know why no one wants gently caress ups to have lasting consequences. It was the most interesting aspect of the Avatar. I'm all for consequences if they make the character struggle more interesting, but Korra losing that aspect of being the Avatar was just a dumb idea.
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Jimbot posted:It was the most interesting aspect of the Avatar. I'm all for consequences if they make the character struggle more interesting, but Korra losing that aspect of being the Avatar was just a dumb idea. Yes, this aspect they used only a handful of times. Bringing it back and thus making it happen pointless would be good now that the show is almost over. This means that yes they're going to do it.
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Dec 13, 2014 06:58
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Genocyber posted:Yes, this aspect they used only a handful of times. Bringing it back and thus making it happen pointless would be good now that the show is almost over. Yes, they used it a handful of times. But consider how they used it. In ATLA, Aang having a connection to his past lives allowed for a lot of world building and exposition. It was actually a pretty great vehicle for storytelling
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Dec 13, 2014 07:12
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Which is pretty unnecessary at this point, let's face it.
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Dec 13, 2014 07:17
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Well drat. Watching Pacific Rim last weekend really paid off. I hope that thing has elbow rockets when Korra inevitably makes a Spirit Voltron to wrassle with it. Today, we're cancelling the apocalypse! 
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Dec 13, 2014 08:01
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Next episode clip. Looks like an upswing in animation detail for the last two eps, at least; I have to admit I was a bit worried. 
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Dec 13, 2014 09:14
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ahahaha that giant lanky mech This loving show lmao
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Dec 13, 2014 09:32
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BrianWilly posted:Next episode clip. Pretty heroic of Bataar Jr. to shield everyone else with his body. Just kidding, this looks awesome and I can't wait.
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Dec 13, 2014 09:52
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Is there another show that's said "take out/down" more than this one. In that preview clip alone I lost count.
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Dec 13, 2014 10:09
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why did it have to be mounted on a ridiculous super mech??? why???... also, lol at bumi and tenzen in spandex :P
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Dec 13, 2014 10:23
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Vanderdeath posted:Not gonna lie, the Colossus being a steampunk Jet Alone kinda owns. Quoting this because it's true.
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Dec 13, 2014 10:46
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Anyone surprised by the appearance of a giant robot clearly hasn't read the thread title.
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Dec 13, 2014 12:08
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ApeHawk posted:loving CALLED it. lol sucks to be this poster quote:That sounds pretty horrible and would sour me on this season a lot. Episode rules, giant kung-fu mechs with hyperbeams rule, this show rules.
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Dec 13, 2014 12:43
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HoneyBoy posted:Is there another show that's said "take out/down" more than this one. Yeah I don't get it. It's is like some kind of bizarre 1984 logic to it, "we can have murder and genocide as long as no one EVER refers to it as such". I do not understand modern censorship 
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Dec 13, 2014 13:17
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Rutibex posted:Yeah I don't get it. It's is like some kind of bizarre 1984 logic to it, "we can have murder and genocide as long as no one EVER refers to it as such". I do not understand modern censorship No man, those guys in that border outpost that got nuked are all fine. And P'Li, Ghazan and Ming-Hua? On a sabbatical.
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Dec 13, 2014 13:29
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The Sharmat posted:Then one's Varrick and Zhu-li, the other is Asami and...Pabu? If Hiroshi doesn't come back and Baatar Jr. doesn't wake up, it will have to be Asami and Zhu Li. If Hiroshi and Baatar are there, it will be Hiroshi / Asami and Baatar / Zhu Li. TheKingofSprings posted:Bataar Jr is a dumb as hell name for an antagonist, incidentally  . Although I understand it means "hero" or something like that in another language.Killer robot posted:Something always made me think of him as the Avatar world's Rusty Venture.
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Dec 13, 2014 14:01
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Maybe they made a giant mech because giant things that can wreck everyone's poo poo are already a thing in Avater-verse, usually its because the Avatar has gone full godzilla. So a giant mech slowly walking towards a place with enough power to wipe it off the map is more Kiruva ego tripping and making her own avatar-state thing of mass destruction.
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Dec 13, 2014 14:41
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:Maybe they made a giant mech because giant things that can wreck everyone's poo poo are already a thing in Avater-verse, usually its because the Avatar has gone full godzilla. So a giant mech slowly walking towards a place with enough power to wipe it off the map is more Kiruva ego tripping and making her own avatar-state thing of mass destruction. Yeah its not as if giant war machines are a new thing in the Avatar universe. The Fire Nations giant drill thing in A:TlA was at least as large as Kuviras Metal Gear Dubstep.
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Dec 13, 2014 15:51
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Megaspirit? Korrazilla? Warmech? There's one person this can all be traced back to.  Blame Aang.
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Dec 13, 2014 15:58
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Probably Magic posted:I don't think he's wrong, though. That reconciliation is such a Chekhov's gun that I could totally buy Sato coming in and finding a way to kick the KuviraEva's rear end. Plus they had Asami mention him again in the reunion episode, so it doesn't seem like that one episode was a one-off. Oh God, I really am a Hiroshi Sato parachute account. BrianWilly posted:Next episode clip. I am deeply in love with the Colossus. Like, seriously. Too bad it's probably going to be destroyed next episode. X_Toad posted:Varrick is useless as a pilot, remember the last time? He shot his own allies! Oh, but how else will Varrick grow to appreciate Zhu Li as an equal? He'll initially try to take the lead, they'll fail because he's a useless pilot, then Zhu Li will make an angry speech about how he has to trust her and let her take the lead, he'll do so, and they score a major hit. And Baatar is too injured from that preview to pilot effectively. I don't think it'll be him. I do like the idea of Pabu piloting though.
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Dec 13, 2014 18:27
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G Gundam is way dumber than I remember it being.
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Dec 13, 2014 20:54
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Ugh. The only way this mess can be redeemed is if the finale includes Bataar searching his soul and concluding that, yes, killing him alongside the bulk of the enemy leadership would have in fact been worth it if it had worked. Pleeease let there be at least one interesting character before it all ends.
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Dec 13, 2014 21:48
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this allusion meant posted:Ugh. The only way this mess can be redeemed is if the finale includes Bataar searching his soul and concluding that, yes, killing him alongside the bulk of the enemy leadership would have in fact been worth it if it had worked. Pleeease let there be at least one interesting character before it all ends. Bataar Jr's clearly the kind of guy who values personal relationships above achieving political victories. Making him discard all that to be like "yeah, no Kuvira, I totally am not mad you tried to kill me even after how much I've been loyal to you/loved you" would be beyond stupid.
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Dec 13, 2014 21:51
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nutranurse posted:Bataar Jr's clearly the kind of guy who values personal relationships above achieving political victories. Making him discard all that to be like "yeah, no Kuvira, I totally am not mad you tried to kill me even after how much I've been loyal to you/loved you" would be beyond stupid.
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Dec 13, 2014 21:54
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Like, clearly he's serious about Kuvira, and this is definitely something to break up over. But honestly, are we meant to believe that there are precisely zero True Believers in the cause among the central leadership? How ridiculous. This isn't a story about fighting a terrifying popular dictator anymore, it's a story about breaking up a minor crime gang made up of teens and led by the only twenty-something with the emotional intelligence to perform basic manipulations.
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Dec 13, 2014 22:05
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You guys are crazy, she was sad that she lost a valuable resource, she didn't love him. They zoomed in on her face when they hugged earlier and it was meant to seem suspicious too, typically hugging or kissing and then opening your eyes is a sign of deception in shows. She said what she did to keep them in place while she moved in for the kill, if she was like nah gently caress that I'm coming to kill you they'd have moved, obviously. She was using him the entire time, and this entire plot is about her being power hungry and deceptive, she uses everyone.
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Akumos posted:You guys are crazy, she was sad that she lost a valuable resource, she didn't love him. They zoomed in on her face when they hugged earlier and it was meant to seem suspicious too, typically hugging or kissing and then opening your eyes is a sign of deception in shows. She said what she did to keep them in place while she moved in for the kill, if she was like nah gently caress that I'm coming to kill you they'd have moved, obviously. She was using him the entire time, and this entire plot is about her being power hungry and deceptive, she uses everyone. It's very possible this is true. I also really hope it's not, because that would just mean Kuvira is yet another 2D villain who's power hungry for the sake of it and has no really emotional attachments to anyone. I still really want there to be a reason for what Kuvira's doing beyond her tripping on power Ozai 2.0 style. Someone mentioned a page or so back an interesting idea of her having experienced a lot of horror & having to make hard choices for the greater good during the early days of her reconstruction efforts, and that those experiences shifted her into full Hobbes territory of believing people need an iron fist to rule them for their own good. But I'm skeptical they'd be able to pull anything like that off in the 40 remaining minute of this series. nutranurse posted:Bataar Jr's clearly the kind of guy who values personal relationships above achieving political victories. Making him discard all that to be like "yeah, no Kuvira, I totally am not mad you tried to kill me even after how much I've been loyal to you/loved you" would be beyond stupid. I don't really get that vibe from him. Sure he loves Kuvira and values her over her ideals, but in that same scene he also scorned his mother's genuine apology & attempt to reconcile whatever had caused their rift. If anything he seems like the kind of guy who's willing to cut ties with his entire family over something as petty as an implied inferiority complex towards his father.
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Dec 13, 2014 23:05
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The most recent episode had a lot of conspicuous budget-saving techniques - the evacuation montages are the main offender - so it's clear they were saving up for the finale. I'm excited. This show has always needed longer seasons.
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Sydin posted:I don't really get that vibe from him. Sure he loves Kuvira and values her over her ideals, but in that same scene he also scorned his mother's genuine apology & attempt to reconcile whatever had caused their rift. If anything he seems like the kind of guy who's willing to cut ties with his entire family over something as petty as an implied inferiority complex towards his father. I would argue that Bataar rebuffing his mum's attempt to reconcile was him remaining personally loyal to Kuvria, not because he scorns affection in general (heck, I'd say it's an example of him being very swayed by personal loyalties because he's so into Kuvira that his mum's genuine apology fell on deaf ears). The inferiority complex stuff is worth pointing out, though, I had entirely forgotten that.
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Dec 13, 2014 23:09
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Bongo Bill posted:This show has always needed longer seasons. Of course, considering the production quality of Korra, along with its complete lack of profitability, there was never any way in hell we were going to be seeing 44-minute episodes. Hopefully Mike and Bryan find work on their inevitable next project to be less restrictive.
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Dec 13, 2014 23:28
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Speaking of which, I read somewhere that the last two episodes are slightly longer than the rest, maybe by one or two minutes.
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Dec 13, 2014 23:50
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Jackard posted:Speaking of which, I read somewhere that the last two episodes are slightly longer than the rest, maybe by one or two minutes.  Unless that extra 90 seconds or so is just FBI warnings or something, this would seem to be the case.
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Dec 14, 2014 00:06
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I have but one wish. The word "Stand" in "The Last Stand" refers to how, in the final episode, Korra strikes a fabulous pose and Raava pops out to ORA ORA ORA the giant mech to pieces.
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Dec 14, 2014 00:50
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Akumos posted:You guys are crazy, she was sad that she lost a valuable resource, she didn't love him. They zoomed in on her face when they hugged earlier and it was meant to seem suspicious too, typically hugging or kissing and then opening your eyes is a sign of deception in shows. She said what she did to keep them in place while she moved in for the kill, if she was like nah gently caress that I'm coming to kill you they'd have moved, obviously. She was using him the entire time, and this entire plot is about her being power hungry and deceptive, she uses everyone. It was the other way around - she closed her eyes when they hugged, which is generally the body language for relaxing and getting comfortable. Given that she's an iron-fisted dictator with a giant rod up her rear end, that's a really rare and important demonstration of trust, and the fact that Bataar couldn't see it made it genuine.
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Darth Walrus posted:It was the other way around - she closed her eyes when they hugged, which is generally the body language for relaxing and getting comfortable. Given that she's an iron-fisted dictator with a giant rod up her rear end, that's a really rare and important demonstration of trust, and the fact that Bataar couldn't see it made it genuine. Also the closing her eyes and steeling herself after effectively ordering his death.
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Dec 14, 2014 00:59
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Genocyber posted:Also the closing her eyes and steeling herself after effectively ordering his death.
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Suspicious Cook posted:I have but one wish. At the last second, Toph arrives... ZA WARUDO!!!
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Dec 14, 2014 01:57
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I guess I'm the only one who is reminded of The King and the Mockingbird with this giant metal Colossus. If Kuvira gets blown away to oblivion, then Bryke will have gone to the original source of anime inspiration. Seriously, without Paul Grimault, Studio Ghibli wouldn't have been what it is...
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I hope Bataar Jr. is dead and doesn't help defeat Kuvira, because he doesn't even have the courage to be a proper tyrant. Actually it's because I want Korra and company to have to figure out it's weakpoints (its the joints. it's always the joints.). Plus if Bataar Jr is dead then nobody else knows how to or wants to fix the superweapon.
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The weak point of that colossus is rather obvious : it's the head. The pilot is in there and some parts of it are glass rather than steel. Korra needs to pull off a Dipper Pine or a Wazdakka Gutsmek, jump from the top of that bridge and crash through the glass and into the cockpit.
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