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eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
I do have to say, if you want to join any goons join the Vaior goons. Lots of cool people there.

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Kevlar Beard
Feb 20, 2010

So there's 3 goon guilds on different servers?

You guys don't make this very easy

e: Do Elves share the same animations as Nuians?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Kevlar Beard posted:

So there's 3 goon guilds on different servers?

You guys don't make this very easy

e: Do Elves share the same animations as Nuians?

Nuians condone slavery. They are scum. Be an elf.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Kevlar Beard posted:

So there's 3 goon guilds on different servers?

You guys don't make this very easy

e: Do Elves share the same animations as Nuians?

the funny thing is there are less goon guilds now than there were a few weeks ago

lol

ShadowMoo
Mar 13, 2011

by Shine
What goon guilds are currently open? the list in OP seems somewhat out of date.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

ShadowMoo posted:

What goon guilds are currently open? the list in OP seems somewhat out of date.

They're all dead. Game is dying, Trion Worlds can't manage to find their own dick with both hands and people moved on.

ShadowMoo
Mar 13, 2011

by Shine
I need a new F2P addction, have no money for WoD :smith:

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

Shut up, Nick! You're not Twilight.
You should give Warframe a shot.

ShadowMoo
Mar 13, 2011

by Shine
Played WF for a while but burned out.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
SWTOR

Kevlar Beard
Feb 20, 2010

Angela Christine posted:

If you want to have a chill time with the remaining chill goons in goonsquad vaior, then make an elf or a nuian on the Aranzeb server. We'd love to have some newbies. There are usually 15-20 of us on at any time, so you won't get lost in a huge zerg guild.

Character's name is Rukte if you can throw me an invite (assuming you can do it while I'm offline).

e: does this build look ok for arcanist? http://archeagedatabase.net/us/calc/92866/

Kevlar Beard fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Dec 13, 2014

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Kevlar Beard posted:

Character's name is Rukte if you can throw me an invite (assuming you can do it while I'm offline).

Looking at the guild info, it looks like only Balistafreak can invite people. We have no officers at all, probably because our last guild dissolved when one of the officers kicked everyone during a tantrum, lol. So I guess in the community-social menu add "balistafreak" to your friends list so you can see when he is online, and then send him a whisper to let you in. You both need to be online to do it.

less than three
Aug 9, 2007



Fallen Rib
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less than three fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Dec 15, 2014

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.

Angela Christine posted:

Looking at the guild info, it looks like only Balistafreak can invite people. We have no officers at all, probably because our last guild dissolved when one of the officers kicked everyone during a tantrum, lol. So I guess in the community-social menu add "balistafreak" to your friends list so you can see when he is online, and then send him a whisper to let you in. You both need to be online to do it.

Man, DDO did offline invites ten years ago, it's really annoying that this game is stuck somewhere in the Everquest era for quality of life poo poo.

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer
Guilds are barely better than writing poo poo on a truck stop wall in this game.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Morglon posted:

Man, DDO did offline invites ten years ago, it's really annoying that this game is stuck somewhere in the Everquest era for quality of life poo poo.

There are so many games that don't do offline invites it's unreal. DDO is the only one I can think of off the top of my head to do offline invites.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
Rift, a better trion game.

balistafreak
Oct 30, 2012

Angela Christine posted:

Looking at the guild info, it looks like only Balistafreak can invite people. We have no officers at all, probably because our last guild dissolved when one of the officers kicked everyone during a tantrum, lol. So I guess in the community-social menu add "balistafreak" to your friends list so you can see when he is online, and then send him a whisper to let you in. You both need to be online to do it.

No one has kick privileges but me, BUT every line member has invite privileges. If I were the only one with invite privileges, we never would have been able to pick up the pieces after the creation of VAIOR.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

ShadowMoo posted:

I need a new F2P addction, have no money for WoD :smith:

I've gone back to Star Trek Online to laugh at broken people who throw tantrums when I stand next to them.

Morbidmind
Feb 24, 2013
Did Goonrathi ever end up getting off the ground?

Godmode Enabled
Jul 14, 2013

I AM A BETAGOON, ASK ME ABOUT PROPER GRIEF TO CASH RATIOS.
Nope, just one or two people ever logged on.

Harrower
Nov 30, 2002
Did goons make the castle,? If so did they get it trashed yet?

Morbidmind
Feb 24, 2013
In standard Goon fashion everything imploded a week or so before the event.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Morbidmind posted:

In standard Goon fashion everything imploded a week or so before the event.

Boy did it ever

ShadowMoo
Mar 13, 2011

by Shine
So drowsy got tons of lucre intended for the castle for free. Just like real like socialism.

ruffz
Dec 20, 2007

Harrower posted:

Did goons make the castle,? If so did they get it trashed yet?

I was a bit too casual to be in the know fully about what happened, but it sounded like somebody went fuckgoons with most of the materials and then everybody went all "didn't want a castle anyway"

Bait and Swatch
Sep 5, 2012

Join me, Comrades
In the Star Citizen D&D thread

Morbidmind posted:

In standard Goon fashion everything imploded a week or so before the event.

Then the event itself imploded, and a good time was had by all

LegionAreI
Nov 14, 2006
Lurk
I'm pretty much done with this game - my patron runs out the 20th and I am not inclined to renew so I'd like to offload some land for a reasonable price. Might as well get some money in case the game gets good eventually. I have a 16x16 and an 8x8 next to each other on the cliff in North TC if anyone is interested. Make me an offer - I have PMs or you can do it here.

Kevlar Beard
Feb 20, 2010

LegionAreI posted:

I'm pretty much done with this game - my patron runs out the 20th and I am not inclined to renew so I'd like to offload some land for a reasonable price. Might as well get some money in case the game gets good eventually. I have a 16x16 and an 8x8 next to each other on the cliff in North TC if anyone is interested. Make me an offer - I have PMs or you can do it here.

Can I just have your land? I just started and I'm poor as poo poo.

LegionAreI
Nov 14, 2006
Lurk

Kevlar Beard posted:

Can I just have your land? I just started and I'm poor as poo poo.

You know what? It's the season for giving, why not? :sun: Merry Christmas.

What's your in-game name and when are you usually on? I might not be able to hook up tonight, but I'll pop on probably around 11 EST and see.

In-game name is Kioku.

Kevlar Beard
Feb 20, 2010

LegionAreI posted:

You know what? It's the season for giving, why not? :sun: Merry Christmas.

What's your in-game name and when are you usually on? I might not be able to hook up tonight, but I'll pop on probably around 11 EST and see.

In-game name is Kioku.

Name is Rukte, I'm on Aranzeb.

I'll be on practically all night, just message me.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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balistafreak posted:

No one has kick privileges but me, BUT every line member has invite privileges. If I were the only one with invite privileges, we never would have been able to pick up the pieces after the creation of VAIOR.

You are awesome.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Balista is a solid dude, he helped me out one day when I needed it

Kevlar Beard
Feb 20, 2010

Does VaIor have a mumble or do we just use the CTS one?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Since we have a newbie (squeee) lets discuss the best uses for a 16x16.

Beef (cows or water buffalo)
According to http://imgur.com/a/91FCH you can get 20 on a 16X16, but I was never able to squeeze in more than 19. Buy 19 cows (47.5 gold) and feed them, them come back 21 hours later, feed them again, and kill them all. Takes a total of 589 labor. Selling the pelts and beef raw gets about 88 gold at current prices, so after the cost of feed and calves you net 38 gold per day. 6.4 silver/labor.

Advantages:
- only have to visit once a day.
- you can process the results into more valuable leather and trimmed meat if you have labor to burn.
- If you don't want to process the into trimmed meat, the vendor price for beef is quite high and you can vendor it for a good price for instant gold.
- Decent silver/labor, so it is worthwhile to buy labor pots if you need them.

Disadvantages:
- placing the cows is kind of fiddly to get the maximum number on there. Get it a bit off any you might only get 16 or 17 on one day.
- You're only there once a day, but that once a day you are there for a long rear end time. Feeding, killing, placing, and feeding again takes a while.
- Calves don't stack. You have to carry 19 separate calves around in your pocket. If you are doing several farms at a time you'll probably have to make more than one trip to the livestock merchant.


Sheep Pens
4 sheep pens cost 29.6 gold to build from mats, or more from the AH. (Send me, Anela, the mats and I can build pens for you). Once they mature you will spend 12 feed to get about 560 wool and 30 poop. At today's prices will net you about 12 gold/harvest. It takes 412 labor for each harvest, so about 2.9 silver/labor, which is right on the line of labor pots being worth it or not worth it. You can do this every 6 hours, for up to 4 harvests a day, but realistically most people won't get more than 3 harvest per day if you have to sleep or work. So either 36 gold per day, or up to 48 gold per day if you have no life. (Buying the pens is a one time cost, so I'm not including it in the g/day value).

Advantages:
- tending pens is quick and easy.
- if you have labor to burn you can turn the wool into more valuable cloth (not usually worth the time/labor, but it is an option)
- if you have a farmer's workstation you can turn the poop into fuel.
- With careful placement there is enough room between the pens for up to 8 small trees (grapes, bay, figs, or bananas) and 4 small seed crops in the corners, which can net you a few more gold per day, but I'm not including it because it depends on too many variables.

Disadvantages:
- the clock is ticking. Pens can be harvested every 6 hours, and if you are late you're losing money.
- occasionally a pen will need to repaired with lumber. This happens less often as your husbandry skill improves
- a pen may collapse, needing to be torn down and replaced entirely. You'll get some mutton and pelts out of the slaughter, so it isn't a total loss, but it is a pain.
- as a wool merchant, imps may make fun of you. :ohdear:

Facebook Aunt fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Dec 14, 2014

Khako
Dec 24, 2008

Lee #61
North TC isn't a bad place for larders. They take 3 days to mature and can ship them off to solzreed or cart to gweonid for some easy money. In the three days it takes, you can level and learn about the game and not worry about farming. I'll send you some in-game, if you don't use em, sell for some starter gold.

Arcade
Sep 10, 2007

Eonwe posted:

Balista is a solid dude

balistafreak
Oct 30, 2012

Kevlar Beard posted:

Does VaIor have a mumble or do we just use the CTS one?

We just jack the CTS room. It's not like we generally do anything involving super opsec so that's hardly a concern.

As for fitting twenty "medium" sized things on a 16x16, there's a certain "order of operations" to it. I have my own routine but it boils down to putting everything on the edges first. If you look at the picture in the link you'll actually see that there's a few distinct sections - build around the edges and work your way in.

In other news I finally finished my lake plate set. Caster plate is really great for farming, and the 7 piece set bonus is stupid OP. Now I just need my t3 hasla (rip in piss).

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
As balista said, reliably getting 20 medium trees on a large is much easier if you order it right. This is how I normally do it:



[edit] You also need to be autistic about getting the early rows placed perfectly, because if you mess one of them up it's not going to become noticeable until you're trying to do the last 4 placements.

kznlol fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Dec 14, 2014

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Finndo
Dec 27, 2005

Title Text goes here.
Part of the trick is going almost over the line... it feels like only the dots mark the edge of both your plant and the farm borders, not the arc or line between the dots. You really have to slowly move until the instant it turns green, then place.

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