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Dabir posted:Hasted Heavy Hastened.
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I'm kinda surprised there isn't a Medi-Gun already that has as it's Uber the Projectile Shield from MvM, I'm thinking it'd work like the Vaccinator in that it'd have multiple charges(in it's case 2, one at 50% and one at 100%), but in exchange it heals at 50% the speed of Stock, and either has a max Overheal of 20% of what Stock can give or possibly be unable to Overheal at all(whichever would be more balanced), I'll admit this might be an awful idea though
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Dec 13, 2014 12:14
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The buffs for the BFB were kind of a shame in my book, if only because they got rid of the tighter spread, and I really liked my scatter gun being viable at longer ranges, I'd use the shortstop for that but I just can't hit stuff with it for some reason. Maybe they'll scale it up a little and make it a really slow but powerful assault rifle thing for heavy. KluddKluddKluddKludd. An invisibility medigun would be pretty awesome, just invis an engineer to somewhere useful and quickly drop down some buildings. Maybe have it make a really loud obnoxious noise while invisible so the other team at least knows something might get janky.
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Dec 13, 2014 12:31
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drrockso20 posted:I'm kinda surprised there isn't a Medi-Gun already that has as it's Uber the Projectile Shield from MvM, I'm thinking it'd work like the Vaccinator in that it'd have multiple charges(in it's case 2, one at 50% and one at 100%), but in exchange it heals at 50% the speed of Stock, and either has a max Overheal of 20% of what Stock can give or possibly be unable to Overheal at all(whichever would be more balanced), I'll admit this might be an awful idea though Every time Valve comes up with a cool idea that they realise is ridiculously overpowered or not fun to play against, I'm pretty sure they stick it in MvM as an upgrade. Heavies knocking people back and destroying projectiles, Soldiers' rocket specialist, Snipers explosive headshots, Medic's projectile shield and Engie's 2-way teleporters and extra sentry were probably all tested for normal TF2 before they stuck them in there.
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Dec 13, 2014 13:53
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QwertySanchez posted:An invisibility medigun would be pretty awesome, just invis an engineer to somewhere useful and quickly drop down some buildings. Maybe have it make a really loud obnoxious noise while invisible so the other team at least knows something might get janky. Jarate is a thing.
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Dec 13, 2014 13:59
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I've sort of wondered what a Medigun whose Uber gave the target high-speed ammo regen would be like. Probably not very fun to fight against.
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Dec 13, 2014 14:02
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Yeah you need to force people to move about the map.
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Dec 13, 2014 14:21
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If that scrap.tf guy's here, I used the function that auto-scraps duplicates. It took 39 weapons and gave me one back in change. Wuh?
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Dec 13, 2014 15:07
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Looked at the accepted for tf2 page again and the gun's disappeared. Whoops.
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Dec 13, 2014 15:33
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The Kins posted:I've sort of wondered what a Medigun whose Uber gave the target high-speed ammo regen would be like. Probably not very fun to fight against. Engineer primary that restores ammo the way the medigun restores health. Call it the iDispense or something and have it eat up metal at x rate. Also I really want that invisibility uber now. So many possibilities.
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Dec 13, 2014 15:39
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pisshead posted:If that scrap.tf guy's here, I used the function that auto-scraps duplicates. It took 39 weapons and gave me one back in change. Wuh? That seems right to me. Turned 38 weapons into 19 scrap and 1 weapon.
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Dec 13, 2014 15:46
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Red Bones posted:I feel like having a smaller clip is definitely a downside to the BFB, but then again my aim on scout isn't great, especially when I'm moving at ultra high BFB speeds. The regular scattergun gives me more chances to screw up, and enough shots that I don't feel vulnerable switching out a pistol for milk or something like that. I guess at higher skill levels that might become a non-issue though. You see, usually the scout has a problem like you said with running out of shots in the middle of the battle (especially if you aren't using a pistol) and I guess valve thought that's how the BFB would be balanced. But its just not enough, the upsides of the weapon make almost a non-issue, if you run out of shots with the scattergun your reaction will be to fall back and reload, making use of the scout's speed to run off from danger. The BFB makes this waaaay easier since nothing can catch you apart from a skilled rocket or sticky jumping Soldier or Demoman (unless you somehow missed every shot and have no boost). This wildly screws up Scout vs Scout encounters, which are otherwise one of the most intense and skill dependent situations in the game since you can't just run away from another scout if you run out of bullets when the two of you are using any other primary, you usually have to duke it out until one of you is dead which means whoever can connect the most shots. With the BFB you're not only harder to hit, you can outrun another scout to grab some health or reload which is complete bullshit that puts you at an obvious advantage without much need for skill.
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Dec 13, 2014 16:46
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I wish steam would come up with a better way of trading than trade offers. If someone puts an offer up and you meet it it should go through automatically rather than having to wait up to two weeks for them to accept. And why isn't metal considered fungible? One trade offer going through cancels another one because they use the same single piece of metal even though they're totally interchangable. Why isn't everything just marketable?
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Dec 13, 2014 19:05
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Today I was informed by an annoyed enemy that coming from behind was "being noob". I was playing as a spy.
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Dec 13, 2014 19:07
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I got yelled at for being a W+M1 noob today. Today was a good day.
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Dec 13, 2014 19:09
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TF2. TF2 never changes.
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Dec 13, 2014 19:09
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This game will never die will it?
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Dec 13, 2014 19:10
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Otacon posted:I got yelled at for being a W+M1 noob today. I just read your ban reason and it was very funny
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Dec 13, 2014 19:10
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Otacon posted:I got yelled at for being a W+M1 noob today. Funny I got yelled at for being a W+M2 noob. I made sure to correct him it was actually left stick left trigger.
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Dec 13, 2014 19:35
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i got a twenty odd killstreak on one server, repeatedly shutting down an engie and his equipment and he called me a noob. I replied with "well duh, im using a touchpad here"
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Dec 13, 2014 20:21
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I got called a W+M1pyro once for completely locking down a couple of snipers from across the map with a flaregun. I guess they have a point, W and M1 were amongst the keys/buttons I was using..
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Dec 13, 2014 21:01
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pisshead posted:If that scrap.tf guy's here, I used the function that auto-scraps duplicates. It took 39 weapons and gave me one back in change. Wuh? 1 scrap = 2 weapons, or looking at it the other way around 1 weapon = 1/2 scrap. 39 weapons is 19 1/2 scrap, the weapon is your half-scrap worth of change. Magypsy posted:Update! Someone used a Pile of EOTL Keys last night, and I unboxed the Cold Snap Coat 
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Dec 13, 2014 21:27
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Show your cross hairs. A seemingly insignificant detail? I have had view models off for years and used a tiny green circle for some reason. I just changed back to the default cross hair and turned it dark pink. Holy poo poo it stands out. On scout while it seems to distract me at times I hit more shots, way more. I have been told by people that know these things that your eye gets used too what ever cross hair you use and it's worth regularly changing it too keep your mind aware of that sweet spot in the screen. There is even a script that constantly changes the cross hair on the fly based on this theory. Any way - who knows I had the same one for so many years. It's fun trying different things though.
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Dec 13, 2014 21:36
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I've been using a big neon green dot because I feel like it stands out more than a white circle. Regularly changing the colours sounds like an interesting idea, I might try it out. God knows I need the help with my scattergun aim.
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Dec 13, 2014 21:41
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Bob Locke posted:The Baby Face Blaster has virtually no downside. It lets a scout easily escape any encounter, and 4 shots is more than enough to win a 1v1 with the massive speed advantage and ambush potential. It's so unfun to play against. It's the new Soda Popper. Yup, agreed on all points. The BFB isn't quite a straight upgrade in numerical terms, but in actual gameplay it's unquestionably better than stock. You have an insignificant amount of slowdown until you do an insignificant amount of damage, at which point you become a rampaging monster who moves around at nearly double standard movespeed. You have 2 less shots, but that doesn't matter because you have absolutely total control over starting and ending engagements. Just run around a corner and reload, and you can be back in their face before they take a step. And now it's virtually impossible to lose your boost once you have it. It was a fun and interesting weapon when it forced a limitation on your movements - there was a tradeoff between greater engagement control and much more limited dodging and flanking options. You started below standard movespeed, it took a lot of damage to build up charge, and you could lose it all if you jumped even once. Now it's just The Best Weapon For Scout, and that's something Valve ~supposedly~ wanted to avoid. And yeah, the Backscatter gives a minor damage buff in a situation where you're guaranteed a kill anyway. If you're in the rear arc and they don't see you, then just close in for a meatshot. Doing minicrits from midrange is a 35% damage buff, whereas closing in from midrange to point blank takes you from 10-40 damage to 90-150 - a 265% to 900% damage buff. Most importantly you ensure more pellets hit, so you're doing reliable damage instead of getting a minicrit chip shot where 9/10 pellets miss. It's useless garbage. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Dec 13, 2014 |
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Dec 13, 2014 21:43
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I would also add that you should screenshot your options page before changing things because it's all sliders and impossible to remember.
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Dec 13, 2014 21:47
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Paul MaudDib posted:1 scrap = 2 weapons, or looking at it the other way around 1 weapon = 1/2 scrap. But why not just take 38?
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Dec 13, 2014 23:17
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pisshead posted:But why not just take 38? It's getting rid of all your duplicates and then giving you one you don't have (assuming you don't have them all already)
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Dec 13, 2014 23:26
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Jippa posted:Show your cross hairs. I had a script that changed crosshair color every time I hit a movement key and I got used to it. I just change manually once a month or so now.
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Dec 13, 2014 23:35
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pisshead posted:But why not just take 38? Because the system is designed to exchange weapons for an equivalent amount of metal - it just so happens that the "penny" of TF2's metal system is a weapon. The way the system is looking at it, it's just giving you your proper change. The system already has to handle the case where a user is manually dragging weapons in a trade window and drags in an odd number - in this case, it needs to return a weapon or it would be stealing the user's change. The auto-scrap is probably not "smart" - it's likely programmed to run a simple loop which finds all appropriate items in your backpack and sets up a trade offer, built on top of the existing scrapping system. You could write in a special case to only auto-scrap an even number of weapons, but why bother when the existing "change" system already handles it? Plus yeah, you could give the user a new weapon they don't have. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Dec 13, 2014 |
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Magypsy posted:Every time Valve comes up with a cool idea that they realise is ridiculously overpowered or not fun to play against, I'm pretty sure they stick it in MvM as an upgrade. Heavies knocking people back and destroying projectiles, Soldiers' rocket specialist, Snipers explosive headshots, Medic's projectile shield and Engie's 2-way teleporters and extra sentry were probably all tested for normal TF2 before they stuck them in there. Really the Extra Sentry and the Rocket Specialist(and maybe the Heavy Stuff) are the only ones of those I could really see being overpowered, the others could be balanced by giving the weapons they'd be attached to reasonably strong drawbacks, like for example the Two-Way Teleporter can't be upgraded, and both halves cost a full 200 Metal to build
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A neat little trick you can pull off on Goldrush as a Demoknight.
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drrockso20 posted:Really the Extra Sentry and the Rocket Specialist(and maybe the Heavy Stuff) are the only ones of those I could really see being overpowered, the others could be balanced by giving the weapons they'd be attached to reasonably strong drawbacks, like for example the Two-Way Teleporter can't be upgraded, and both halves cost a full 200 Metal to build That would be useless, though. There's no reason to teleport back to spawn outside of the first few minutes of the game, and that's only for the engineer. The reason it's so good in MvM is that you have to go all the way back to spawn in between every wave, as well as in the middle of longer waves to refill your canteen.
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Ariong posted:That would be useless, though. There's no reason to teleport back to spawn outside of the first few minutes of the game, and that's only for the engineer. The reason it's so good in MvM is that you have to go all the way back to spawn in between every wave, as well as in the middle of longer waves to refill your canteen. Ok I'll admit that one wasn't a good example, but the idea stands that one could make some of the MvM upgrades part of their own weapons if properly balanced(I could see the Mad Milk Syringes being their own gun if given a reasonable drawback for example)
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Dec 14, 2014 03:22
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That 2nd sniper who just chills and watches his buddy die and waits for his decapitation....man, I sometimes just let those guys live when Im rocketing jumping around maps. I see these clueless (I assume) new players and just feel bad bombing them out and just jump away to the next health pack.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:07
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Explain to me why the tide turner aint op! Still think it should mark you for death while charging.
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Dec 14, 2014 04:13
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Hihohe posted:Explain to me why the tide turner aint op! The tide turner should not have damage resistances. If the tide gave absolutely no damage resistance people would still use it over other shields when demoknighting. Then, you can throw the resistances from the tide turner on the wee booties.
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braden posted:That 2nd sniper who just chills and watches his buddy die and waits for his decapitation....man, I sometimes just let those guys live when Im rocketing jumping around maps. I see these clueless (I assume) new players and just feel bad bombing them out and just jump away to the next health pack. He had The Classic and fired a shot
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ninjewtsu posted:He had The Classic and fired a shot Historians to this day debate whether the second gunman fired a shot or not
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