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nutranurse posted:Seriously, this is inarguably the biggest flaw of LoK. Most of the problems with Korra could be fixed if its creators had more episodes to do poo poo (or they could have given us even MORE Makorra, but who knows Why do goons always jump to episode count as if it were the sole determinant of quality or pacing? If a show is too bloated at 20 episodes or too brisk at 12, that isn't a problem with the episode count, but with the show's writing and plotting.
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The Sharmat posted:Aang's story is done and I really don't think seeing any more of it would be an improvement at all. teen titans: go, but with Avatar seriously though, if Anime Jesus existed he would have Toonami buy the Avatar franchise
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icantfindaname posted:teen titans: go, but with Avatar Oh, he exists, but...  I don't think he can do anything about this.
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gannyGrabber posted:I'm pretty sure Kuvira is cray cray. That doesn't make her inhuman.
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I think the problem with LoK is that the Avatar setting just isn't that interesting at the end of the day, and it's all the show really has going for it. The plotting and characters just aren't very good, and it tries to push the setting to make up for it, but I don't care.
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icantfindaname posted:I think the problem with LoK is that the Avatar setting just isn't that interesting at the end of the day, and it's all the show really has going for it. The plotting and characters just aren't very good, and it tries to push the setting to make up for it, but I don't care. I think the setting could have been interesting had they shown some glimpses into this rapidly industrializing world that's suddenly confronted with the past, like spirits merging with the physical world. Given the pacing problems and writing problems they had in S1 and 2, I doubt they could've done anything like that though.
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Irish Joe posted:Why do goons always jump to episode count as if it were the sole determinant of quality or pacing? If a show is too bloated at 20 episodes or too brisk at 12, that isn't a problem with the episode count, but with the show's writing and plotting. Yea I know the writers are nice and funny and all but if they knew they had 20ish episodes and we still have dropped poo poo from like the first couple episodes like 'so what was up with those bandits that conveniently attacked after Kuvara had her deal rejected and were using poo poo no random dirt bandits should have like flying machines, huh?' that's a problem with the writing, having five more episodes won't make it magically better. Somehow other shows manage to do better with less.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea I know the writers are nice and funny and all but if they knew they had 20ish episodes and we still have dropped poo poo from like the first couple episodes like 'so what was up with those bandits that conveniently attacked after Kuvara had her deal rejected and were using poo poo no random dirt bandits should have like flying machines, huh?' that's a problem with the writing, having five more episodes won't make it magically better. Somehow other shows manage to do better with less. Maybe they were assuming that people could connect the dots without outright saying it? You're right that more episodes wouldn't fix that particular issue though.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea I know the writers are nice and funny and all but if they knew they had 20ish episodes and we still have dropped poo poo from like the first couple episodes like 'so what was up with those bandits that conveniently attacked after Kuvara had her deal rejected and were using poo poo no random dirt bandits should have like flying machines, huh?' that's a problem with the writing, having five more episodes won't make it magically better. Somehow other shows manage to do better with less. But the story is better without every detail being some master scheme by Kuvira. Making her a mustache twirling villain is boring; if she genuinely wants the best for her subjects and wants to unite the Earth Empire in order to create a better society for her people then she is much more interesting. You can debate if she is a better ruler that a puppet of Republic City/The Fire Nation. Like Zahier or Amon she has a legitimate point of view, rather than just being a power hungry despot.
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Rutibex posted:But the story is better without every detail being some master scheme by Kuvira. Making her a mustache twirling villain is boring; if she genuinely wants the best for her subjects and wants to unite the Earth Empire in order to create a better society for her people then she is much more interesting. You can debate if she is a better ruler that a puppet of Republic City/The Fire Nation. Like Zahier or Amon she has a legitimate point of view, rather than just being a power hungry despot. I agree that not literally everything has to tie back to her, but they straight up said 'woah that was weird how that randomly happened literally as soon as she didn't get what she wanted' and the dude in the flying machine super looked like the guy she arrested, which we also saw nothing come from other than I guess the assumption she puts all the bandits in the camps too? edit: She can still make the case it's for a noble cause too. She's not grabbing random people and demanding they turn criminal, she's taking real rear end bandits and letting them be privateers for her noble earth empire to show the foolish resistance how harsh the world is without her protection and all that other Hitler poo poo.
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I like how they literally can't win. When the episode aired people were bitching about how of course Kuvira hired the bandits and it's impossible for a villain to not be behind everything. Now it's "it's bad writing that she didn't hired the bandits and so convenient they attacked right then!" Not the same people, of course, it's just a case where nothing at all can 'win.'
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icantfindaname posted:teen titans: go, but with Avatar I seriously expect a new show to pop up on CN in two years from this team thats just Avatar with the numbers filed off.
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nutranurse posted:There are no winners in internet discussions, only people who like reading their own words. My objective is to create words I like to read. I win. 
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I suppose the giant mecha suit is the new "Aang using energybending" and after some years have passed people will accept it.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I suppose the giant mecha suit is the new "Aang using energybending" and after some years have passed people will accept it. I will never accept mecha suits. icantfindaname posted:teen titans: go, but with Avatar Would unironically watch and love this.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I suppose the giant mecha suit is the new "Aang using energybending" and after some years have passed people will accept it. Not at all. Mecha suits appeared before the finale.
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What's the big deal with mecha suits when we saw that the Fire Nation had mobile armor and was well into the early 20th century levels of technology military wise. Also, it's an anime and a super robot controlled by metalbending is a perfect capstone to it.
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Really, once metal-bending was introduced in the last series the only possible end result was giant mecha fights.
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nutranurse posted:Really, once a giant drill tank was introduced in the last series the only possible end result was giant mecha fights.
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Killer robot posted:Not at all. Mecha suits appeared before the finale. Literally this. I like AtLA, but the ending had so many silly plotpoints out of literally nowhere. Meanwhile, robot suits have been around since LoK season 1. Does it fit the setting? Not really, but I like it anyway. As long as the solution to beating the Colossus doesn't involve Korra's chakras getting fixed by a magic rock.
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nutranurse posted:Really, once metal-bending was introduced in the last series the only possible end result was giant mecha fights. This is what I don't get about the butthurt, we've seen Toph and poo poo pull metal around her, did any of you legitimately think this would never be taken to the logical end point of 'oh, OH we can just put ALL OF US in metal with his bending...'?
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Kuvira obviously was hiring bandits dumbasses. The first time you see her this season when she fights a bunch one of them almost says "Kuvira oh poo poo we didn't know this was your train sorry" but she puts metal around his mouth. Sorry, that the children's show villain isn't as complex as you want it.
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Possible giant mecha weakness: metalbending powered by avatar state Punch away your problems, Korra!
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Misandrist Wytch posted:Kuvira obviously was hiring bandits dumbasses. The first time you see her this season when she fights a bunch one of them almost says "Kuvira oh poo poo we didn't know this was your train sorry" but she puts metal around his mouth. Sorry, that the children's show villain isn't as complex as you want it. Uh, he says "we didn't know that was your train" in that Kuvira was fighting her way across the kingdom, not "she hired us."
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ImpAtom posted:Uh, he says "we didn't know that was your train" in that Kuvira was fighting her way across the kingdom, not "she hired us." It was obviously implied that they knew her, thus the conclusion can be drawn that she had hired them to gently caress poo poo up. Hth.
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Misandrist Wytch posted:It was obviously implied that they knew her, thus the conclusion can be drawn that she had hired them to gently caress poo poo up. Hth. Or they knew her because she is the general retaking the land? You know, the stated reason they said. Yes, it was implied they knew her, because she is probably the single most important person in the kingdom at that time.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea I know the writers are nice and funny and all but if they knew they had 20ish episodes and we still have dropped poo poo from like the first couple episodes like 'so what was up with those bandits that conveniently attacked after Kuvara had her deal rejected and were using poo poo no random dirt bandits should have like flying machines, huh?' that's a problem with the writing, having five more episodes won't make it magically better. Somehow other shows manage to do better with less. This isn't a dropped plot point. You realize when the Earth Kingdom entered Warlord Era China territory the "bandits" people start talking about are mostly gonna be former military people with access to military hardware, right? This isn't hard. Incidentally I just saw The Last Airbender movie by M. Night Shyamalan. It was loving amazing. I haven't seen that kind of dialogue since Star Wars Episode 2.
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It probably wouldn't do much to the mech since it's moved by metalbending rather than electronics, and it wouldn't do much to the people inside because it's a giant conductive cage that'll absorb all the electricity. It's like being struck by lightning in your car.
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Remember when Mako straight up murdered a woman on screen in Book 3? Good times.
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BrianWilly posted:Metalbenders in general should definitely be super extra vulnerable to lightning. Opal and Lin really shoulda brought Mako instead of Bolin to their murder attempts. Remember that time the Equalists disabled the entire police force and Tenzin with their shock gauntlets?
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The Sharmat posted:Remember when Mako straight up murdered a woman on screen in Book 3? Yeah, because its the only fight Mako's ever won.
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Drunk Canuck posted:
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I remembered that after my "zero foreshadowing" post but decided the giant mecha they built secretly in less than a month (?) was still stupid 
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