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Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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Well, the Sydney Police are handling this better than WAPOL, at least. Last time a cafe was held up in Perth both the gunman and a victim were shot.

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hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
^^ W.A Cops only have two responses they are "kill in custody" and "kill in street" and they were the wrong color for the first one.

"Selfies" has overtaken "unfolding" and "innocent" will it regain the heady heights of @abcnews or @dailytelegraph or, god forbid pass #lindt?!

hooman fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Dec 15, 2014

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

dr_rat posted:

If the guy was actually Islamic state affiliated would of though he would of asked for an Islamic state flag, not an ISIL/ISIS one, as you know they don't actually use that name any more.

Anyway it seems like the police are using negotiation as their main way to resolve this which is pretty optimistic as negotiation tend to end with out loss of life when handed properly.


So far the police have seem to be handing this about as well as you can possible handle something like this.

This is really funny, because earlier today on the ABC24 stream they had this American "Expert" who was an absolute moron complain that the police weren't going in fast enough.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you


Negligent posted:

Gunman forces hostages to display an Islamic flag

how dare people associate the situation with Islamic extremism and a well known Islamic extremist group

Holy poo poo everyone's coming out of the woodwork

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
I knew I heard murmurings of a logo redesign for the ALP but the winner seems quite offensive.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.

Ian Winthorpe III posted:

I think you'll find that Islam is a religion of peace

Tell that to the guy in the cafe

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Monday 15th December, 2014, 1809 EST Demands to talk directly to Abbott were agreed to.
Monday 15th December, 2014, 1821 Face to face negotiation between Abbott and the hostage taker was commenced.
Monday 15th December, 2014, 1900 Abbott announces successful conclusion of negotiations and a peaceful resolution has been reached.
Monday 15th December, 2014, 2048 Sharia law is established and Australia is officially renamed Islamic Caliphate of A'Ustralia.

dr_rat posted:

If the guy was actually Islamic state affiliated would of though he would of asked for an Islamic state flag, not an ISIL/ISIS one, as you know they don't actually use that name any more.

Anyway it seems like the police are using negotiation as their main way to resolve this which is pretty optimistic as negotiation tend to end with out loss of life when handed properly.


So far the police have seem to be handing this about as well as you can possible handle something like this.

You'd think they'd actually just have the right flag to begin with.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
okay is it just me or is it weird that the ABC 24 news presenter is doing the sports broadcast while standing directly in front of one of the police cordons. Like I understand she was already there, but really?

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you
So the ABC have said they have been contacted by the gunman and are complying with police, and Hugh Riminton has said Ch9 has been asked, along with others, not to broadcast demands from the gunman.

What the gently caress are you playing at Ch10?

million dollar mack
Aug 20, 2006
Larson ain't getting this cow.

Negligent posted:

Tell that to the guy in the cafe

Sure, we'll send you in first as a negotiator

BlitzkriegOfColour
Aug 22, 2010

Negligent posted:

Tell that to the guy in the cafe

When Stupid met Stupider.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Maybe he just got confused and packed the wrong flag?

Rapner
May 7, 2013


dr_rat posted:

okay is it just me or is it weird that the ABC 24 news presenter is doing the sports broadcast while standing directly in front of one of the police cordons. Like I understand she was already there, but really?

They're trying a new product combining the average Australian's two favourite things, islamophobia and sports.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

CrazyTolradi posted:

Maybe he just got confused and packed the wrong flag?

I think I saw this sitcom once.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

katlington posted:

You'd think they'd actually just have the right flag to begin with.

That as well. Others have mentioned throughout the day its not exactly hard to get.

million dollar mack
Aug 20, 2006
Larson ain't getting this cow.
It's really just a demand that Lindt have their chocolates Halal certified. The flag is just so that they know to use Halal bullets.

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country

didn't the lebanese civil war break out during frasers first term

i bet it's his fault

Ian Winthorpe III
Dec 5, 2013

gays, fatties and women are the main funny things in life. Fuck those lefty tumblrfuck fags, I'll laugh at poofs and abbos if I want to
I don't get why the guy doesn't post his demands on social media if the formal media is withholding it at request of the police.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you
From the Grau:

quote:

Mosques, synagogues and churches across Australia are inviting the public to gather tonight to pray for a peaceful resolution to the siege at Lindt Cafe in Sydney.

Mosques, including Lakemba Mosque (63-65 Wangee Rd, Lakemba) and Auburn Gallipoli Mosque (15-19 Gelibolu Parade, Auburn) in Sydney, Omar Bin Alkhatab Mosque (658 Marion Rd, Park Holme) in Adelaide and Holland Park Mosque (309 Nursery Rd, Holland Park) in Brisbane will join with churches and synagogues in opening their doors from 8pm for prayer and as a show of community solidarity.

"We are calling on all those who believe in prayer, to pray for the safety of the hostages, and that our nation will not become hostage to fear and hatred,” said Jarrod McKenna, National Director of Common Grace and Westcity Church Teaching Pastor.

St George’s Anglican Church in Paddington and St Mark’s Darling Point are among those that have already opened their churches to the public to pray.

In Adelaide, faith leaders from a range of traditions and denominations will gather at Omar Bin Alkhatab Mosque from 8pm to pray for those being held hostage and for national unity.

In Melbourne, the Caulfield Hebrew Congregation synagogue will open for prayers from 7pm (572 Inkerman St, North Caulfield) and in Canberra, the Theo Notaras Multicultural Centre will host an interfaith prayer service from 730pm (180 London Circuit, ACT).

:unsmith:

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!





Yesssssss this is gonna be great no one ruin it

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

adamantium|wang posted:

So the ABC have said they have been contacted by the gunman and are complying with police, and Hugh Riminton has said Ch9 has been asked, along with others, not to broadcast demands from the gunman.

What the gently caress are you playing at Ch10?

What'd Ch10 do?

Also wtf ABC24 is doing a recap in SUPERFEARMODE

Rapner
May 7, 2013


million dollar mack posted:

It's really just a demand that Lindt have their chocolates Halal certified. The flag is just so that they know to use Halal bullets.

I just checked and they actually aren't Halal certified.

How bad a day is this guy having? He takes a chocolate shop hostage, has the wrong flag, a bunch of the hostages just escape and you can't even eat any of the chocolate yourself.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you

Tommofork posted:

What'd Ch10 do?

Also wtf ABC24 is doing a recap in SUPERFEARMODE

Say they had been contacted and broadcast both of his demands.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
I feel sorry for the man. He obviously has issues and did not get the support he needs. Probably because of how racist Australia is, and prejudiced against non whites. The social problems caused by a Australians vilification of the Other leads to tragic outcomes. This warped interpretation has no credible relation with true Islam.

Neif
Jul 26, 2012

Rapner posted:

I just checked and they actually aren't Halal certified.

How bad a day is this guy having? He takes a chocolate shop hostage, has the wrong flag, a bunch of the hostages just escape and you can't even eat any of the chocolate yourself.

Maybe it's actually a test of faith?

I mean I'm pretty sure I couldn't go an 18hr siege without having just of those loving delicious chocolate Lindt balls I get every Christmas. They are just so moreish.

But then again I'm not a religious fundamentalist either.

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country

Negligent posted:

I feel sorry for the man. He obviously has issues and did not get the support he needs. Probably because of how racist Australia is, and prejudiced against non whites. The social problems caused by a Australians vilification of the Other leads to tragic outcomes. This warped interpretation has no credible relation with true Islam.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you
Julia Holman, Interview Producer for ABC's 730 has tweeted:

"Police have identified who the gunman is. He is known to police. NSW Police have asked the ABC not to identify him."

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

why do y'all assume the guy keeps halal or is indeed even a muslim

Ian Winthorpe III
Dec 5, 2013

gays, fatties and women are the main funny things in life. Fuck those lefty tumblrfuck fags, I'll laugh at poofs and abbos if I want to

Negligent posted:

I feel sorry for the man. He obviously has issues and did not get the support he needs. Probably because of how racist Australia is, and prejudiced against non whites. The social problems caused by a Australians vilification of the Other leads to tragic outcomes. This warped interpretation has no credible relation with true Islam.

Agreed, and it's not hard to sympathize with his taking of asian and indian hostages given their complicity with the white power structure in this country in it's efforts to marginalize and alienate muslims.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

adamantium|wang posted:

Say they had been contacted and broadcast both of his demands.

Joe Hildebrand :bahgawd:

I just assume he has something to do with it because he is poo poo and he was on the panel that was still broadcasting live from the scene and talking about police movements before.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

i'm pretty sure holding people hostage is haraam

electricsugar
Jan 21, 2008

Tum again?

Ian Winthorpe III posted:

Agreed, and it's not hard to sympathize with his taking of asian and indian hostages given their complicity with the white power structure in this country in it's efforts to marginalize and alienate muslims.

Okay.

What?

Ian Winthorpe III
Dec 5, 2013

gays, fatties and women are the main funny things in life. Fuck those lefty tumblrfuck fags, I'll laugh at poofs and abbos if I want to

bell jar posted:

why do y'all assume the guy keeps halal or is indeed even a muslim

Can racists itt please stop this line of hand-waving intended to erase the legitimate grievances of muslims? It's pretty disgusting tia.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Why would chocolate even need to be halal certified? There's no meat in chocolate, nor is there any haram ingredients.

Ian Winthorpe III
Dec 5, 2013

gays, fatties and women are the main funny things in life. Fuck those lefty tumblrfuck fags, I'll laugh at poofs and abbos if I want to

bell jar posted:

i'm pretty sure holding people hostage is haraam

How about for just once, you move aside and let a person of colour dictate their own narrative and articulate their own values.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Neif posted:

Maybe it's actually a test of faith?
I mean I'm pretty sure I couldn't go an 18hr siege without having just of those loving delicious chocolate Lindt balls I get every Christmas. They are just so moreish.
Joe Hockey failed that test.

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

Negligent posted:

I feel sorry for the man. He obviously has issues and did not get the support he needs. Probably because of how racist Australia is, and prejudiced against non whites. The social problems caused by a Australians vilification of the Other leads to tragic outcomes. This warped interpretation has no credible relation with true Islam.

That's very empathetic of you, Negligent. It's true that most criminals and their victims have both been failed by society, but I suspect you won't find many who agree with you at this point in time.

Pizza Segregationist
Jul 18, 2006

Negligent posted:

I feel sorry for the man. He obviously has issues and did not get the support he needs. Probably because of how racist Australia is, and prejudiced against non whites. The social problems caused by a Australians vilification of the Other leads to tragic outcomes. This warped interpretation has no credible relation with true Islam.

Heh, pretty absurd right? Someone's moral values being shaped by their environment?!?! Obviously the real problem here is a particular religion whose followers are all a collective hive mind with no diversity of thought within that particular religion whatsoever. Just like every other religion where every follower believes the exact same thing and shares the exact same political and moral values.

ants on my cum rag
Sep 2, 2011

"Oh God you got the spray gun, DO NOT LOSE IT, you seriously better not screw this up, I'm not kidding"
~~The Battle Hymn of the Contra Tiger Mother~~
I think the real hero here is Kathryn Chee, who managed to bore an entire nation with anecdotes about her co-workers.

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Neif
Jul 26, 2012

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Why would chocolate even need to be halal certified? There's no meat in chocolate, nor is there any haram ingredients.

Google Chocolate and Halal with 1.4 million hits it's an issue for Muslims apparently.

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