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Not to mention that they spent this season building up the relationship between Korra and Asami, and spent the first part of the clip show bagging on Mako for being such a lovely boyfriend.
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Hauldren Collider posted:Final thought: I thought Korra and Asami had a great dynamic as *friends*. The gay lovers thing reaaaalllly cheapens that. I honestly think that them just being friends is a whole lot more interesting and satisfying. Luckily you can interpret the ending as that if you want. But its kind of a stretch to assume that friends stare into each others eyes when they teleport away to a private vacation.
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Hauldren Collider posted:Final thought: I thought Korra and Asami had a great dynamic as *friends*. The gay lovers thing reaaaalllly cheapens that. I honestly think that them just being friends is a whole lot more interesting and satisfying. Okay dude, whatever justifications you need to come up with for yourself.
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Hauldren Collider posted:Final thought: I thought Korra and Asami had a great dynamic as *friends*. The gay lovers thing reaaaalllly cheapens that. I honestly think that them just being friends is a whole lot more interesting and satisfying. According to my treatise on the fluidity of female sexuality (available in full on fanfiction.net) all women are just one tequila shot away from becoming full blown lesbians.
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Hauldren Collider posted:Final thought: I thought Korra and Asami had a great dynamic as *friends*. The gay lovers thing reaaaalllly cheapens that. I honestly think that them just being friends is a whole lot more interesting and satisfying. Can you explain how them being lovers 'cheapens' it? Why does them not being just friends bother you this much?
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Dec 19, 2014 20:19
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OldTennisCourt posted:Can you explain how them being lovers 'cheapens' it? Why does them not being just friends bother you this much? Gays are icky.
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Dec 19, 2014 20:20
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OldTennisCourt posted:Can you explain how them being lovers 'cheapens' it? Why does them not being just friends bother you this much? To be honest I just think it's boring. I actually prefer watching/reading about a best-friends dynamic than a love dynamic. Love stories are a dime a dozen. The former is what it becomes if you ignore the last 30 or 40 seconds of the finale, so it's not really a big deal here.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Gays are icky. yeah confirm I saw one once and I was just like "yuck" you know?
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Gays are icky. Oh for gently caress's sake.
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Dec 19, 2014 20:21
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I dunno I don't think LGBT romances are a dime a dozen in children's media.
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Gay couples are so played out. They are everywhere in mainstream media. Boring. God, stop getting on the bandwagon.
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Pandering to fangirls/boys and social justice poo poo aside, why the gently caress was that cannon even able to fire at the end of the episode? It just gained the power to draw energy from the surrounding area because reasons? That was a pretty big asspull. You visibly saw that it was hooked up to energy sources that got disabled, but suddenly it can just fire being near ~spirit energy~
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Hauldren Collider posted:To be honest I just think it's boring. I actually prefer watching/reading about a best-friends dynamic than a love dynamic. Love stories are a dime a dozen. The former is what it becomes if you ignore the last 30 or 40 seconds of the finale, so it's not really a big deal here. Where on earth are you where gay couples are a dime a dozen in the mainstream media? How on earth is having a gay couple pandering or any type of SJW thing? Like, at all?
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Dec 19, 2014 20:24
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Akumos posted:Pandering to fangirls/boys and social justice poo poo aside, why the gently caress was that cannon even able to fire at the end of the episode? It just gained the power to draw energy from the surrounding area because reasons? That was a pretty big asspull. I think it was slurping up all the spirit vines in the wilds or whatever.
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The show started with a young Korra declaring "I'm the avatar. Deal with it!" and ended with an adult, queer Korra declaring "I'm the first gay avatar. Deal with it!"
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Dec 19, 2014 20:24
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What I like about it is that it retroactively redeems all the godawful Mako romance plots because it turns out yep he was just terrible!
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OldTennisCourt posted:Korra and Bolin were together for like...a second in season 1 IIRC. Mako and Korra haven't been together for a while and Asami was only with Mako for like a season or so. This is really nowhere near as complex as you're making it seem dude. Korra and Asami are either bi or Mako turned them gay. It's simple as hell. This series really was tumblr incarnate, but it ended with two extremely strong seasons and the butthurt of idiot homophobes so it's all cool to me. It sucks it didn't end with a kiss, but baby steps. NutritiousSnack fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Dec 19, 2014 |
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Dec 19, 2014 20:26
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Regy Rusty posted:What I like about it is that it retroactively redeems all the godawful Mako romance plots because it turns out yep he was just terrible! Eh, Mako was never really a bad guy in the show, he was pretty confused about his feelings(and apparently so were they.)
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Dec 19, 2014 20:26
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Akumos posted:Pandering to fangirls/boys and social justice poo poo aside, why the gently caress was that cannon even able to fire at the end of the episode? It just gained the power to draw energy from the surrounding area because reasons? That was a pretty big asspull. You visibly saw that it was hooked up to energy sources that got disabled, but suddenly it can just fire being near ~spirit energy~ It was tangled up in spirit vines. I mean its power source is literally just a bunch of them strapped to it so it isn't really a big stretch.
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Dec 19, 2014 20:26
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Akumos posted:Eh, Mako was never really a bad guy in the show, he was pretty confused about his feelings(and apparently so were they.) He wasn't bad-nasty, he was bad-incompetent.
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Dec 19, 2014 20:27
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OldTennisCourt posted:How on earth is having a gay couple pandering or any type of SJW thing? Like, at all? When two characters who have expressed no romantic interest in each other for 47 episodes, and who were both in straight relationships throughout the course of the series, suddenly go gay in the 48th episode for no reason.
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Dec 19, 2014 20:27
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I have to agree that the lack of an overarching villain is my major complaint with the show. I'll agree that Vaatu wouldn't have been best, but there should have been someway to work in a threat that existed over the whole of the show.
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Dec 19, 2014 20:27
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Considering how many relationships the show spawned, like Bolin's "relationship" with that ice bitch, it's hard to say Korrasami would even work out in the end.
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Dec 19, 2014 20:28
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Irish Joe posted:When two characters who have expressed no romantic interest in each other for 47 episodes, and who were both in straight relationships throughout the course of the series, suddenly go gay in the 48th episode for no reason. If it were sudden, or completely lacking in any interest shown before then, it wouldn't have been a debate in this thread well before the finale as it was.
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Dec 19, 2014 20:28
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The overarching villain of the show is Korra's personality flaws.
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Irish Joe posted:When two characters who have expressed no romantic interest in each other for 47 episodes, and who were both in straight relationships throughout the course of the series, suddenly go gay in the 48th episode for no reason. There is literally a scene earlier this season where they compliment each other's looks and Korra glances away and blushes and it was such a blatant scene people made fun of it for bating "Korrasami shippers."
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OldTennisCourt posted:I have to agree that the lack of an overarching villain is my major complaint with the show. I'll agree that Vaatu wouldn't have been best, but there should have been someway to work in a threat that existed over the whole of the show. The Red Lotus crew would have been perfect for this.
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Irish Joe posted:When two characters who have expressed no romantic interest in each other for 47 episodes, and who were both in straight relationships throughout the course of the series, suddenly go gay in the 48th episode for no reason. There are traces of mutual attraction through books 3 and 4.
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ImpAtom posted:There is literally a scene earlier this season where they compliment each other's looks and Korra glances away and blushes and it was such a blatant scene people made fun of it for bating "Korrasami shippers." bolin and asami confirmed  Asami has been overly friendly and hugged like everyone on the series, I'm still slightly skeptical they weren't just good friends comforting each other in a neat moment after a major conflict. Her dad literally just died. It's a very real possibility, but considering Korra was just comforting her, it's a bit reaching to declare their relationship is confirmed. Akumos fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Dec 19, 2014 |
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Hauldren Collider posted:To be honest I just think it's boring. I actually prefer watching/reading about a best-friends dynamic than a love dynamic. Love stories are a dime a dozen. The former is what it becomes if you ignore the last 30 or 40 seconds of the finale, so it's not really a big deal here. Love stories are a dime a dozen, true, but not same-sex love stories. I can understand wanting more best friends dynamics, but there's a time and a place for kicking out love dynamics and this isn't really one. Now, if it was Mako, the "we broke up but we got back together anyway because she's Female Lead and I'm Male Lead" romance dynamic is way, way more dime a dozen. I'm glad they solidly killed that with fire.
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Akumos posted:Considering how many relationships the show spawned, like Bolin's "relationship" with that ice bitch, it's hard to say Korrasami would even work out in the end. Yeah, totes. Toph even talks about how sometimes relationships don't quite work out. Maybe after their Spirit World expedition, Korra and Asami find that they don't quite work as a romantic couple. But it's still rad as hell.
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thexerox123 posted:If it were sudden, or completely lacking in any interest shown before then, it wouldn't have been a debate in this thread well before the finale as it was. Was there a debate, or merely the expressed desire of people who get off to the idea of two cartoon character's loving?
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iSheep posted:The Red Lotus crew would have been perfect for this. I agree because team fights rule. I also like the concept of them having like agents and sympathizers like the old-school White Lotus did.
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The Bee posted:Now, if it was Mako, the "we broke up but we got back together anyway because she's Female Lead and I'm Male Lead" romance dynamic is way, way more dime a dozen. I'm glad they solidly killed that with fire. Yes, I am extremely grateful. I was tensing for a minute afraid that that dialogue near the end was gonna end with them hooking up again. I think that had more tension for me than the part where Mako was lighting up the spirit nuke plant thing in the mech.
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Irish Joe posted:Was there a debate, or merely the expressed desire of people who get off to the idea of two cartoon character's loving?
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Hauldren Collider posted:Yes, I am extremely grateful. I was tensing for a minute afraid that that dialogue near the end was gonna end with them hooking up again. I think that had more tension for me than the part where Mako was lighting up the spirit nuke plant thing in the mech.
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Akumos posted:Eh, Mako was never really a bad guy in the show, he was pretty confused about his feelings(and apparently so were they.) It was quite clear they both liked him alot and found him attractive, it was just written so poorly and awkwardly with Mako (and Korra) being such assholes they ditched it. It was only this season they decided to go "gently caress it, let's try this" and it worked.
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Irish Joe posted:When two characters who have expressed no romantic interest in each other for 47 episodes, and who were both in straight relationships throughout the course of the series, suddenly go gay in the 48th episode for no reason. Yeah this. I know there were teases throughout this season but they were super low-key, I know I've expressed more affection to my best friend, and both of us are totally straight.
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FYI, the part of the Avatar finale I hated most was the part where Aang kisses Katara. Annoyed the gently caress out of me. I think I may just hate love stories....
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