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So this poo poo hit the fan. Patreon decided to change it's policies by adding & changing their community guidelines Specifically http://www.patreon.com/guidelines quote:Bullying, Harassment, Threats and Hate Speech: Now surprisingly this covers a significant number of people that currently use Patreon, who have gotten notices that they will be defunded in a month. They're not taking it well... Anyways so far 8chan.co has announced it's getting it's Patreon account closed on the grounds it allows "illustrated child porn" on it's site (Hentia) and it facilitates self harm such as suicide.) It has responded to it's notification that it's patreon is being taken down by re purposing it. It is now totally dedicated to supporting Frederick, a man in a wheelchair, youtube show about his cat as well as paying the woman who cares for his cat.. Frederick also happens to won 8chan, but it's totally not going to 8chan. http://www.patreon.com/hachi_the_cat?u=162165
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Dec 22, 2014 19:01
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Wasn't Frederick one of the people in the hilariously awkward Gamergate meet-up?
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Rosalind posted:Wasn't Frederick one of the people in the hilariously awkward Gamergate meet-up? Yep. He owns 8chan, from what I recall.
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Dec 22, 2014 19:49
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Rosalind posted:hilariously awkward Gamergate meet-up You can't just say something like that and not share a link or something.
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Dec 22, 2014 20:01
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bvoid posted:You can't just say something like that and not share a link or something. this ?
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Dec 22, 2014 20:03
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Shadoer posted:So this poo poo hit the fan. How does Patreon expect to make money if they alienate all the porn folks that shuffled over there to make more consistent money than twitch.tv subs and donations? I mean, they're not gonna stop making porn, and now Patreon just opened the gates for a smut-friendly competitor to pop up and steal the weirdo fetish money. I tend to overestimate just how much money flows through that part of the internet, but I guess I'd have to see some numbers on Patreon's user count and associated supporter/money volumes.
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Dec 23, 2014 01:58
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They should make a porn exclusive Patreon.
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Dec 23, 2014 02:01
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Shadoer posted:So this poo poo hit the fan. banning both gamergate trolls and the weirdos who draw anime dickgirl porn seems fairly redundant imo
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Dec 23, 2014 02:05
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:They should make a porn exclusive Patreon. Porntreon. Patreorn.
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Dec 23, 2014 02:19
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Faptreon
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...of SCIENCE! posted:...the weirdos who draw anime dickgirl porn ... They clarified that drawn erotica/porn is still allowed, so the the anime dickgirls can stay.
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Dec 23, 2014 11:41
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...people were using Patreon for live-action porn?
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Shadoer posted:So this poo poo hit the fan. How is banning a website about pedo cartoon drawings "poo poo hitting the fan"?
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:How is banning a website about pedo cartoon drawings "poo poo hitting the fan"? Really, I was expecting some quotes or something about people bitching but there is none. Is poo poo hitting the fan being the fact that patreon decided people with lovely views can't use them to get money? How is that bad?
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Leal posted:Really, I was expecting some quotes or something about people bitching but there is none. Is poo poo hitting the fan being the fact that patreon decided people with lovely views can't use them to get money? How is that bad? Its the only reason Patreon existed. (They accepted money that was somehow too dirty for Kickstarter) The poo poo hitting the fan is a ton of annoying shitheads on the internet throwing a hissy fit, or maybe he meant Patreon shutting down (because they'd get no more business).
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Yeah I thought this was going to be something about Patreon banning LPers or something like that.
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Dec 23, 2014 19:59
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There would have been poo poo hitting the fan if they suddenly banned all the people doing drawn porn, especially since they'd had direct communication with a lot of them on what is acceptable. But apparently they're just unable to write clear definitions so there's no issue. I'll laugh pretty hard if the 8chan ban dodge works, though. But that will take a few weeks to be sure.
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I object to the use of poo poo hitting the fan to describe circumstances that do not matter concerning only people who matter just as little. At that point you might aswell pose the question: sack of rice fell over in China, is poo poo in a fanbound trajectory and how could it effect YOU?
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Zaphod42 posted:Its the only reason Patreon existed. (They accepted money that was somehow too dirty for Kickstarter) You have literally no idea what Patreon is then. Also that role was already filled by Indiegogo and the dozens of actual pron based kickstarter clones like offbeatr. Did you really just go "Patreon looks kinda like porn if I squint" and assume that's what it's for from there? Cuz it sounds like you did. The whole deal with Patreon is that it allows people to receive money on a user-set-period-of-time basis, where the whole deal with Kickstarter is you get one lump sum when a project campaign ends, and unlike indiegogo where you could use a flexible funding thing to receive things as they came in, but couldn't really set up a "pay me every week x amount" thing. Nintendo Kid has a new favorite as of 20:44 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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Patreon does seem like a good way for internet content producers - especially those who do it as a hobby to get a little something in exchange for thier efforts. If the audience likes it, they can pay, if the audience doesn't, they don't. Seems fairer than the "thanks for funding our kickstarter...oops we have no product, well see ya!" deal that happens sometimes.
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Dec 25, 2014 00:51
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Jim Sterling earns like 10 grand monthly with his Patreon. That's gotta be more than the Escapist paid him. Edit: almost exactly 10 grand http://www.patreon.com/jimquisition
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Jim Sterling earns like $10k monthly with his Patreon. That's gotta be more than the Escapist paid him. The issue is, of course, that if the content producer doesn't deliver, the audience has to chose to stop funding them, but often they don't. Dresden Cloak missing its deadlines constantly is a good example - yet the fans keep pumping in money, without any content being delivered on time.
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Are the Patreon numbers always accurately reflected in real time? I refuse to believe these chucklefucks are making nearly 9000 a month http://www.patreon.com/thesarkeesianeffect
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OldMemes posted:The issue is, of course, that if the content producer doesn't deliver, the audience has to chose to stop funding them, but often they don't. Dresden Cloak missing its deadlines constantly is a good example - yet the fans keep pumping in money, without any content being delivered on time. There is Noah Antwiler, aka The Spoony One who last I checked (admittedly maybe 2 months or so ago) was getting 5 grand a month and still has yet to go through with actually producing content outside of movie vlogs that are longer then the movie itself and twitter slapfights.
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Alan Smithee posted:Are the Patreon numbers always accurately reflected in real time? I refuse to believe these chucklefucks are making nearly 9000 a month Look closely. They're set to get paid per video they put out. It says monthly videos but I kinda doubt how much they stick to such a schedule. Also, backers who have their payment method fail get dropped off the total each time the "payment event" fires plus Patreon takes a fee for successful payments etc. It's kind of a neat thing with Patreon, that it's not just "pay per month/week", honest people can actually do it as "per comic I actually publish" etc
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Leal posted:There is Noah Antwiler, aka The Spoony One who last I checked (admittedly maybe 2 months or so ago) was getting 5 grand a month and still has yet to go through with actually producing content outside of movie vlogs that are longer then the movie itself and twitter slapfights. The hilarious thing is that Patreon has a "per case" payment, where patrons are only charged when a content provider actually provides a instance of content, as well as "per month", because they know patrons should have a modicum of sense when choosing which artist to support and know that there's some that take forever to produce content. I guess when you have a name on the internet, it's a license to steal.
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Nintendo Kid posted:You have literally no idea what Patreon is then. Also that role was already filled by Indiegogo and the dozens of actual pron based kickstarter clones like offbeatr. Did you really just go "Patreon looks kinda like porn if I squint" and assume that's what it's for from there? Cuz it sounds like you did. I'm sure he's sorry, weird guy that defends Patreon. What he probably meant to say was "it's the only reason Patreon existed, besides propping up incredibly bad webcomics."
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Prop Wash posted:I'm sure he's sorry, weird guy that defends Patreon. What he probably meant to say was "it's the only reason Patreon existed, besides propping up incredibly bad webcomics." Which would mean he's still wrong as hell? Why do complete morons like you think accurately describing a website means you like it?
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Prop Wash posted:I'm sure he's sorry, weird guy that defends Patreon.
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Talented people are getting paid for their work and that makes this goon really angry.
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Leal posted:There is Noah Antwiler, aka The Spoony One who last I checked (admittedly maybe 2 months or so ago) was getting 5 grand a month and still has yet to go through with actually producing content outside of movie vlogs that are longer then the movie itself and twitter slapfights. Looking at his youtube channel, there are eight videos uploaded this months. Granted, most of them are wrestling reviews, I'm pretty sure it counts as content to some.
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Paladinus posted:Looking at his youtube channel, there are eight videos uploaded this months. Granted, most of them are wrestling reviews, I'm pretty sure it counts as content to some. Does anyone seriously give half a poo poo about anything he has to say about wrestling? It might as well be nothing.
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Noyemi K posted:Does anyone seriously give half a poo poo about anything he has to say about wrestling? It might as well be nothing. Back in '11 he was loud and energetic, more than most reviewers, and made good background noise. Don't know about lately, but back then, it was just fun to hear someone rip on wrestling from a fan perspective instead of smarking out.
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The people giving to Spoony's Patreon are expecting him to do scripted review videos, where he makes fun of game or movie, and has pre-written jokes and production values and things, not vlogs though. That's what he got popular for, and for him to not do them and just pump out vlogs (he's got a habit of making review vlogs about films that are longer than the film he's been to see (his video where he just talked straight to the camera about his thoughts after coming back from seeing The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is 146 mins long - that's more than the run time of the movie!). People are paying for him to make those, not vlogs. But if people want to contrbute, its their choice, I guess.
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Yeah, I honestly used to love watching Spoony rip on games and poo poo. Now it's all wrestling vlogs and D&D stories, and I could not care less. D&D stories, really?
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OldMemes posted:The people giving to Spoony's Patreon are expecting him to do scripted review videos, where he makes fun of game or movie, and has pre-written jokes and production values and things, not vlogs though. lol if you think Patreon is anything but another form of legal daytime robbery.
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OldMemes posted:The people giving to Spoony's Patreon are expecting him to do scripted review videos, where he makes fun of game or movie, and has pre-written jokes and production values and things, not vlogs though. You have brackets inside your brackets.
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DoctorTristan posted:You have brackets inside your brackets. If you're really nitpicking someone for punctuation on GBS, I'd like to point out that "[" are brackets and "(" are parentheses.
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