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Je suis fatigue posted:It has to be the same, right? Nope. Nick owns Avatar lock, stock and barrel.
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Je suis fatigue posted:I really enjoyed Korra, every season and every episode, even if it was a bit ham-handedly written at times. Actually the first four episodes of season 2 are kinda boring, but there's some good stuff in there still. That's not how copyright law works
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JT Jag posted:Well, Kuvira was arguably right about one thing, that someone had to stand up and bring order to the anarchy that had come to the Earth Kingdom. The Avatar wasn't around to do it, Suyin refused to do it, so she felt like it was her duty. It was her methods that were flawed. And So Was Her Mech
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Je suis fatigue posted:I really enjoyed Korra, every season and every episode, even if it was a bit ham-handedly written at times. Actually the first four episodes of season 2 are kinda boring, but there's some good stuff in there still. In the US, the current copyright period for works made for hire is 95 years, and that's probably only going to increase indefinitely as there are certain people who are very interested in making sure they maintain control of Micky Mouse and Superman. Unless someone fucks up a renewal don't expect anything made in the US after 1923 to enter public domain.
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Dec 24, 2014 03:21
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Jackard posted:She Was Totally Out of Balance 
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Dec 24, 2014 03:22
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Nick is a big business - unless both the producers just straight up catch fire and die spontaneously they're either going to: 1. Make more Avatar stuff, in one way or another 2. Sell the rights to someone else 3. Find a way to make money off of internet nerds They're not going to sit on something that might turn into money, even if they've been really loving stupid in the past. Hopefully everyone will move on, get refreshed, and then Nick/someone who buys the rights will get them back together. ps. Please don't catch fire spontaneously, unless you post in this thread.
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Dec 24, 2014 03:40
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T-man posted:ps. Please don't catch fire spontaneously, unless you post in this thread. You first. 
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Dec 24, 2014 03:42
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T-man posted:Nick is a big business - unless both the producers just straight up catch fire and die spontaneously they're either going to: I don't know who they'd sell it to, other than Cartoon Network. And do they really want to hand a big hitter IP to their competition, who would probably monetize it more effectively than they can?
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T-man posted:Nick is a big business - unless both the producers just straight up catch fire and die spontaneously they're either going to: Or they'll just sit on it and let it make DVD sales and the occasional rerun. Nick has a ridiculous number of IPs they've allowed to languish and fade away, I'm not sure why you think Avatar would be any different.
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Dec 24, 2014 03:45
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It's not like it's unusual in the slightest for a TV show to just end. Most things do eventually.
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One day we will all be dead, and nobody will care about Avatar.
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TheBalor posted:I don't know who they'd sell it to, other than Cartoon Network. And do they really want to hand a big hitter IP to their competition, who would probably monetize it more effectively than they can? Cartoon Network cancelled Young Justice and the Green Lantern animated series, they're no stranger to completely loving up really good animated shows.
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The last episode had the anime laser beam that causes a line of delayed explosions along the ground. It's impossible for an action animation to escalate any further than that laser beam. It had no choice but to end when it did. And that's fine.
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ImpAtom posted:Or they'll just sit on it and let it make DVD sales and the occasional rerun. Nick has a ridiculous number of IPs they've allowed to languish and fade away, I'm not sure why you think Avatar would be any different. Yeah, it's not at all uncommon to not milk an IP for ever and ever. Sure, nerdy IPs tend to get milked endlessly, but Nick hasn't really had an IP like that before so there is no telling if they'll try to make a franchise out of it. Chances are it probably is done TV-wise. If not, cool. If so, well, it had a good run.
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Bongo Bill posted:The last episode had the anime laser beam that causes a line of delayed explosions along the ground. It's impossible for an action animation to escalate any further than that laser beam. It had no choice but to end when it did. And that's fine. They had the Spirit of Ultimate Evil Forever fight the hero in a giant laser fight, and then they did two more seasons.
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T-man posted:They had the Spirit of Ultimate Evil Forever fight the hero in a giant laser fight, and then they did two more seasons. This still kind of annoys me,still hanging on to Vaatu being corrupted in some way coming from the comics.
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Dec 24, 2014 04:02
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Bongo Bill posted:The last episode had the anime laser beam that causes a line of delayed explosions along the ground. It's impossible for an action animation to escalate any further than that laser beam. It had no choice but to end when it did. And that's fine. Earth bender bends the moon into the planet. Fire bender deflects the moon by bending the sun. Check and mate.
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Dec 24, 2014 04:04
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SirKibbles posted:This still kind of annoys me,still hanging on to Vaatu being corrupted in some way coming from the comics. You mean you're not a fan of having a spirit of good and spirit of evil? I guess it really doesn't fit with the series. Probably would have been better a spirit of order and chaos. Both of those are more morally grey due to both having down sides.
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Dec 24, 2014 04:05
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Go through Book 2, replace every instance of "light" with "order" and "darkness" with "chaos," season improves by like 20%.
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Dec 24, 2014 04:12
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Kibayasu posted:Cartoon Network cancelled Young Justice and the Green Lantern animated series, they're no stranger to completely loving up really good animated shows. Like duh, Megan, catchphrase catchphrase Young Justice sucked.
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Covok posted:You mean you're not a fan of having a spirit of good and spirit of evil? I guess it really doesn't fit with the series. Probably would have been better a spirit of order and chaos. Both of those are more morally grey due to both having down sides. He's only really evil in the sense that he doesn't want to protect humanity. I mean yes that's the logical way to define good and evil but it's a selfish definition; it's not like he wanted to end existence or some dumb thing like that (though he did think he could kill Raava once and for all).
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Toshimo posted:Like duh, Megan, catchphrase catchphrase Young Justice sucked. I guess you're right. A single line used a few times by a single character (in addition to Robin's dumb thing) during the first season ruined it all. No point in watching any of it.
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Covok posted:You mean you're not a fan of having a spirit of good and spirit of evil? I guess it really doesn't fit with the series. Probably would have been better a spirit of order and chaos. Both of those are more morally grey due to both having down sides. computer parts posted:
I'll concede I could be totally missing something, Raava originally doesn't want to protect humanity either she's framed as assholish from a human perspective but not literal cackling evill like Vaatu is. (10,000 years of darkness etc.) Kibayasu posted:I guess you're right. A single line used a few times by a single character (in addition to Robin's dumb thing) during the first season ruined it all. No point in watching any of it. 1. Taking the obvious joke too seriously chilll. 2. loving up writing(in this case characterization) can drive people away (see Korra season one where alot of people did the 3 episode test and bailed because it was mostly Pro-bending and romance.) SirKibbles fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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TheBalor posted:I don't know who they'd sell it to, other than Cartoon Network. And do they really want to hand a big hitter IP to their competition, who would probably monetize it more effectively than they can? They could sell the rights to Netflix/Hulu/Amazon. All three companies are looking for new IP's, recognize the potential in a show that is watched mostly by the 18-35 demographic that'd rather stream things anyway, and have the money to give Bryke the budget they need to keep the quality of animation.
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Sydin posted:They could sell the rights to Netflix/Hulu/Amazon. All three companies are looking for new IP's, recognize the potential in a show that is watched mostly by the 18-35 demographic that'd rather stream things anyway, and have the money to give Bryke the budget they need to keep the quality of animation. I can see Nick giving the Avatar IP one more shot (trying to sell toys/merchandise) then just selling to Netflix/Hulu/Amazon like you said. Nick aint stupid though it's going to cost those companies an arm and maybe the first born child of the shareholders.
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Reene posted:My biggest regret is that Asami didn't shockglove more suckers. JT Jag posted:I wish Asami invented a new gadget every year so the playing-field got more even every time she fights benders. Like, the shock-glove is a start, but she should have added rocket boots and a net-gun and other cool stuff and eventually she'd just single-handedly beat an entire group of benders in season four, like Avatar-World Batgirl Feelin' this. Bending fights are cool, but I love to see non-benders get to gently caress poo poo up too. In addition to more Asami, it would've been cool to see Bumi in action prior to him becoming an airbender.
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computer parts posted:He's only really evil in the sense that he doesn't want to protect humanity. I mean yes that's the logical way to define good and evil but it's a selfish definition; it's not like he wanted to end existence or some dumb thing like that (though he did think he could kill Raava once and for all). I would agree if not for the delivery of his lines. It's a super mustache-twirly cartoon evil villain delivery, and he even gloats about the destruction he's about to bring. If they wanted to portray him as a spirit of chaos, not evil, he should have just been like "yeah I'm gonna kill most/all humans, what of it."
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SirKibbles posted:]Nick aint stupid though it's going to cost those companies an arm and maybe the first born child of the shareholders. [Citation Needed]
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SirKibbles posted:I can see Nick giving the Avatar IP one more shot (trying to sell toys/merchandise) then just selling to Netflix/Hulu/Amazon like you said. Nick aint stupid though it's going to cost those companies an arm and maybe the first born child of the shareholders. Agreed, which is why if I think it would be anybody, it would be Amazon. They have the money to swallow a large sale price, and they're also struggling to wrench viewers away from Netflix to Amazon Prime streaming. They'd probably be willing to drop a decent chunk of change on the Avatar IP, since it has a well established fanbase that they could hook onto their streaming service.
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SirKibbles posted:Yeah I just don't like that they called him evil instead of chaotic because it doesn't fit with the rest of the show. It also goes against the basic concept of Yin and Yang which is really weird considering this is supposed to be eastern themed.
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I vaguely remember seeing or hearing someone in Avatar: The Last Airbender saying that the air nomads all just "Turned into air" or something, like they ascended from their mortal bodies and found enlightenment. But when I rewatched A:TLA I never heard anything about that. Was that sometihng that popped up on screen during Nickelodeon's pop-up trivia airing of A:TLA years ago, like an alternate version of how Bryke were considering handling their disappearance?
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I was in another forum when someone asked "How are Korra and Asami going to have kids?"  It all went to poo poo.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I was in another forum when someone asked "How are Korra and Asami going to have kids?"  The same way they'd do it in real life, adopt
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Miss Nomer posted:
Have you been on SA or seen things? Fandom will find a way. A horrible, terrible, nightmarishly insane way.
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Jesto posted:I vaguely remember seeing or hearing someone in Avatar: The Last Airbender saying that the air nomads all just "Turned into air" or something, like they ascended from their mortal bodies and found enlightenment.  "But the monks taught me that I had to detach myself from the world so my spirit could be free." "Many great and wise Air Nomads have detached themselves and achieved spiritual enlightenment...but the Avatar can never do it, because your sole duty is to the world."
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Sydin posted:They could sell the rights to Netflix/Hulu/Amazon. All three companies are looking for new IP's, recognize the potential in a show that is watched mostly by the 18-35 demographic that'd rather stream things anyway, and have the money to give Bryke the budget they need to keep the quality of animation. Streaming services have brought us some great exclusive stuff, but it's all been stuff that can be done relatively low budget with little to nothing in special effects. I get the feeling people saying a streaming service migth pick it up don't understand just how expensive animation is, let alone when compared to live action dramas and comedies.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I was in another forum when someone asked "How are Korra and Asami going to have kids?" They're going to adopt adorable spirit babies: 
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Eej posted:It also goes against the basic concept of Yin and Yang which is really weird considering this is supposed to be eastern themed.
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ImpAtom posted:A situation where a company would lose the rights to characters they own exists only long after we're all dead. Probably not even then if Disney has its way. Microcline posted:In the US, the current copyright period for works made for hire is 95 years, and that's probably only going to increase indefinitely as there are certain people who are very interested in making sure they maintain control of Micky Mouse and Superman. Unless someone fucks up a renewal don't expect anything made in the US after 1923 to enter public domain. Ah okay yeah that all makes sense, I never really thought too deeply about why the Marvel/Sony/Fox situation was the way it is.
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