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Bicyclops posted:There seems to be no benefit in it for them. Its just Moffat's usual aversion to spoilers, I think. Also, I think Clara has been better this season too, but Amy and Rory took such a dive in quality once they stayed passed their first goodbye that if the same happened to Clara she would be unbearable.
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Showrunner hanging on to their obvious pet favourite character long past the point where they should have been gone forever? Sounds familiar.
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Dabir posted:Showrunner hanging on to their obvious pet favourite character long past the point where they should have been gone forever? Sounds familiar. It was bad then too.
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Dec 19, 2014 14:35
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Amy and Rory had a really strong first season, an okay second one and a horrible half season that never should have happened and is a blight on their (and Smith's) run.
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Mokinokaro posted:Amy and Rory had a really strong first season, an okay second one and a horrible half season that never should have happened and is a blight on their (and Smith's) run. But I like Dinosaurs on a Spaceship. 
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Dec 19, 2014 15:21
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That's because it has Rory's dad and Rory's dad is the best.
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Its not Amy and Rory's fault that the writing sucked. They could have been in a series of excellent stories after their goodbye and all it would have taken was a good showrunner hiring good writers with non-eye-rolling plot ideas.
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Yeah, if they do a half season of Clara and a half season of a new person, it will be a disservice to both of them, in my opinion. That's what the rumor has been, but it's mostly just the Daily Mail, so it's hopefully just a rumor.
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Ms Boods posted:Hmm...magician in Latin is rendered either as magis (wise) or...magister -- which is also 'master.' I am now imagining what kind of person would be the Master's companion, and how awesome a few episodes of that would be.
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surc posted:I am now imagining what kind of person would be the Master's companion, and how awesome a few episodes of that would be. Dark Eyes 3 has you covered there!
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I think Lucy Saxon has to be the only one that meets the classic definition.
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PantsOptional posted:I think Lucy Saxon has to be the only one that meets the classic definition. Well there's always the Asian child...
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The_Doctor posted:Well there's always the Asian child... It's been so long since I subjected myself to the movie that I don't recall if they ever actually went anywhere in the TARDIS.
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The_Doctor posted:Well there's always the Asian child... Master/Missy Tardis reveal to show she's rescued Adric at the last minute and has had him hanging from her wall like a piece of 1970s string art all this time.
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Ms Boods posted:Master/Missy Tardis reveal to show she's rescued Adric at the last minute and has had him hanging from her wall like a piece of 1970s string art all this time.  Wouldn't be the first time.
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DoctorWhat posted:
Well he's clearly enjoying it. 
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The_Doctor posted:Well he's clearly enjoying it. How can he? There are no snacks and no one he can betray.
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DoctorWhat posted:
That's what I was referencing. With luck he's had time to 'adjust his clothing' from the last time.
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The best part is that the way Ainley's face is positioned, it looks as if he is staring at the boner, one imagines with a look of utter disgust.
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Adric heard he was known as the Master and got entirely the wrong idea. He just wants to be a happy little sub.
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Adam Mitchell would've been a good companion for the Master. I mean, the Master's only going to keep someone around as long as they're a) useful and/or b) amusing, so Adam would've been a good fit on the Master's TARDIS.
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Metal Loaf posted:Adam Mitchell would've been a good companion for the Master. I mean, the Master's only going to keep someone around as long as they're a) useful and/or b) amusing, so Adam would've been a good fit on the Master's TARDIS. Boy! Open your head up and download Gallifrey's Matrix so that I can use it to ensnare the Doctor in a method too convoluted to explain. *Adam's head explodes in the attempt* Oh well, I figured that would happen, but it was worth a try. Maybe I'll try it with Dalek Clara.
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Metal Loaf posted:Adam Mitchell would've been a good companion for the Master. I mean, the Master's only going to keep someone around as long as they're a) useful and/or b) amusing, so Adam would've been a good fit on the Master's TARDIS. Pretty sure this happened in the comics.
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Was that in DWM or one of the American comics? I've only read the former.
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Metal Loaf posted:Was that in DWM or one of the American comics? I've only read the former. It's not quite how he remembers it, but it's from one of the final IDW arcs.
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Clara is coming back. Sorry guys.
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Reading the Wikipedia entry for the episode with three giant paragraphs about how well the episode was received by the media makes me wonder, was there any actual episode of the revival that wasn't given overwhelmingly positive reviews from critics? I mean, off the top of my head, I honestly feel like Fear Her was the only episode that didn't get universal praise from mainstream critics.
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Dec 26, 2014 03:43
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Chairman Capone posted:Reading the Wikipedia entry for the episode with three giant paragraphs about how well the episode was received by the media makes me wonder, was there any actual episode of the revival that wasn't given overwhelmingly positive reviews from critics? I mean, off the top of my head, I honestly feel like Fear Her was the only episode that didn't get universal praise from mainstream critics. Based on IMDB ratings the lowest rated episodes of the revival are Fear Her, In the Forest of the Night, Love & Monsters, The Lazarus Experiment, Curse of the Black Spot, and Victory of the Daleks. The lowest of those was a 6.4 on average, and the highest was a 6.9.
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Critics are full of poo poo because Victory is awesome and this christmas special wasn't.
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IMDB ratings are not the critics' ratings. There are some critics that loving love all of Doctor Who for some reason. eg for Fear Her: quote:Arnold T Blumburg, writing for Now Playing, gave the episode a grade of B+.
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Dabir posted:Critics are full of poo poo because Victory is awesome and this christmas special wasn't. Curse of the Black Spot is also better than a lot of that list. EDIT: \/ Can you really say it belongs in the same league as Fear Her and Love & Monsters? Mokinokaro fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Dec 26, 2014 |
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Mokinokaro posted:Curse of the Black Spot is also better than a lot of that list. That's just, like, your opinion, man
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MrL_JaKiri posted:There are some critics that loving love all of Doctor Who for some reason. Isn't that the founder/admin of Outpost Gallifrey?
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"Fear Her" seems to be one of the few episodes that some superfans dislike, or maybe they think they're supposed to dislike it, in the same way some Pixar fans just have to hate Cars. It's the story everyone 'knows' is bad, as The Gunfighters used to be. So in a few years "Fear Her" might be reexamined and fans will decide it's actually good, and it'll be uncool to dislike it. Get ahead of the curve and start extolling its greatness now!
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Fear Her gets an undue amount of hate due to that last, like, two minutes and some hokey child acting. That said, even if reexamined, I don't think it'll ever be above a C in most peoples' eyes. Certainly when I was watching through I found it utterly unremarkable like, say, Tooth and Claw or The Vampires of Venice. It was kind of just... there.
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Action Jacktion posted:"Fear Her" seems to be one of the few episodes that some superfans dislike, or maybe they think they're supposed to dislike it, in the same way some Pixar fans just have to hate Cars. It's the story everyone 'knows' is bad, as The Gunfighters used to be. So in a few years "Fear Her" might be reexamined and fans will decide it's actually good, and it'll be uncool to dislike it. Get ahead of the curve and start extolling its greatness now! I mean it's not good either, it's just kind of dull. It's like the Shakespeare one except I guess it fails at tackling child abuse so that turns off more people.
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Harlock posted:Clara is coming back. Sorry guys. Yeah. At least they did a good as job as they could have for giving her a reason to be back. Hopefully, whenever she leaves, they don't give her a drawn out goodbye and she just kind of finds a place that she likes and asks the Doctor if she can stay.
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Bicyclops posted:Yeah. At least they did a good as job as they could have for giving her a reason to be back. Hopefully, whenever she leaves, they don't give her a drawn out goodbye and she just kind of finds a place that she likes and asks the Doctor if she can stay. I imagine the Doctor will (possibly inadvertently) steer the TARDIS into wherever it is Danny ended up at the end of "Death in Heaven", Clara will stay with him, and he won't be able to get back with her. It's just the way things are done.
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I don't mind Clara being back at all given how well Coleman and Capaldi work together and how Moffat's managed to develop her into an actual character. but there really ought to be a second companion added for Season 9.
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