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Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Naffer posted:

I'm really perplexed as to why this phone available in the US. T-Mobile's current windows phone choices are either the $600 HTC or the Lumia 635, and there is no way anyone should be buying a 512 MB WP at this point.

Get a 925 on your own. Still a pretty good midrange phone. And you can get 8.1 via the Preview for Developers.

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Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



Factor Mystic posted:

Get a 925 on your own. Still a pretty good midrange phone. And you can get 8.1 via the Preview for Developers.

Take his advice, I own a 925 and is a fantastic phone, 1Gb RAM and a nice camera. It basically made my Galaxy S4 my secondary phone instead of being a back up phone. Once I got my 925 on the dev preview thing, everything went better. Now if Microsoft pushes WP enough, I'm sure that when I end my actual contract (2016), I'd keep using android for tablets but a Lumia as phone.

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Likes to argue. Wins arguments with ignorant people. Not usually against educated people, just ignorant posters. Bing it.

RVProfootballer posted:

Install the Microsoft apps and ignore the Google ones? Not sure you need a guide for that.


Why would this infuriate you? Ignore it (like I did SkyDrive/OneDrive when using WP!) and stop being an idiot.

Take it down a notch. What annoys me about Google is one of the same reasons I don't use Facebook. Too much upkeep/overhead I don't need in my life in terms of who sees what, what is private, what poo poo is being done for me that I don't want done, etc. I don't know who looks for me on Google+, I don't know what they'll find, I don't know what this poo poo is or why it is on my Google+ account, etc. All I know is I didn't want to set up an account but it was forced onto me via Youtube or my previous Android devices (if I recall).



^^ Behold my personal Google+ page I guess? Yes I realize I probably sound like some old fart but I didn't set that page up, I don't know who can see it, and in my mind if I didn't willingly do something no social media site should be doing it for me. Just like when Facebook was messing with peoples privacy settings requiring them to then go in and check their poo poo all the time for fear of people seeing private things. I'm paraphrasing that because remember I don't use facebook anymore. I realize things like that Google+ page/account may be harmless, but since it was forced on me now I have to do the legwork to find out whether or not it's something I like/dislike. To paraphrase Rumsfeld, "I don't know what I don't know" about Google services intermixing/requirements which forces me to then learn about things I don't care about (G+ for example).

RVProfootballer posted:

E: Do you not realize you can set default apps on Android? You don't have to use any Google service if there's an alternative available. No, you can't use the Play Store without a Google account, just like you can't use any app store without the appropriate account.

No, because you see, I haven't been using Android, hence my question. I do have an old Google account, I'm trying to basically not be forced to use Google+ or Gmail for stuff. All I/they would need is Play Store access and would then use MS services by default. It sounds like this is doable so good. Anyway I think I have what I need to dive into this. Consider this derail over!

Thanks for the link Maneki Neko, that looks like what I've been looking for.

OldPueblo fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Dec 22, 2014

Pipski
Apr 18, 2004

Sodding hell. Is there really no app I can use to edit / create a docx saved to OneDrive, other than the utterly useless default one? I want to be able to set indents, change fonts, things like that. How does WP Office not include a word processor? How are there no 3rd party apps that can do it? I must be missing something. If not, I'm flogging this 930 straight after New Year. I've had enough of this nonsense.

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

Pipski posted:

Sodding hell. Is there really no app I can use to edit / create a docx saved to OneDrive, other than the utterly useless default one? I want to be able to set indents, change fonts, things like that. How does WP Office not include a word processor? How are there no 3rd party apps that can do it? I must be missing something. If not, I'm flogging this 930 straight after New Year. I've had enough of this nonsense.

You want a better Word experience...get an iPhone - really. Office on WP is awful compared to iOS/Android currently.

Of course, this is supposed to improve with W10 when it becomes "Windows Mobile" (again), but we've been down the "We're getting the underpinnings sorted out, then the spice will flow" road before. Perpetual catch-up.

FRINGE
May 23, 2003
title stolen for lf posting
I have some Windows has been managing every-other-version basically as long as it existed.

Unless they broke the spell with the lovely "we're skipping 9" gimmick.

Pipski
Apr 18, 2004

Happy_Misanthrope posted:

You want a better Word experience...get an iPhone - really. Office on WP is awful compared to iOS/Android currently.

Of course, this is supposed to improve with W10 when it becomes "Windows Mobile" (again), but we've been down the "We're getting the underpinnings sorted out, then the spice will flow" road before. Perpetual catch-up.

Man, that sucks. I need to be able to Word on phone though, there's no getting away from it. Nuts. Guess I'm going back to Android.

Also, I may be very dense, but how come if I crop a photo and then save it, if I then reopen it in Lumia creative studio the crops are restored? I can't work that out at all.

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008
Has anyone bought Carcasonne on windows phone? I bought it on the windows app store for my surface then thought to check it out on windows phone.

However on the phone store it says that it works on all compatible windows devices- but not vice versa.

So do I need to buy it again on my phone or not?

Edit: Nevermind, pressing buy downloaded it for free!

Sri.Theo fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Dec 25, 2014

MobMentality
Aug 22, 2007

I'm Mike Doyle.
I think I'm the guy WP is designed for. Completely ADHD about how I use my phone. I've got the HTC M8 and, though initially hesitant about moving from the Lumia line (with a brief period of using a Galaxy), I'm loving it. Then again, I only make brief acquaintance with any of my apps. I can see how anyone wanting more intimate function out of their apps could be extremely frustrated.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Happy_Misanthrope posted:

You want a better Word experience...get an iPhone - really. Office on WP is awful compared to iOS/Android currently.

Of course, this is supposed to improve with W10 when it becomes "Windows Mobile" (again), but we've been down the "We're getting the underpinnings sorted out, then the spice will flow" road before. Perpetual catch-up.

Windows Phone - If You want a better Microsoft Experience, Get an IPhone

Zarfol
Aug 13, 2009

MobMentality posted:

I think I'm the guy WP is designed for. Completely ADHD about how I use my phone. I've got the HTC M8 and, though initially hesitant about moving from the Lumia line (with a brief period of using a Galaxy), I'm loving it. Then again, I only make brief acquaintance with any of my apps. I can see how anyone wanting more intimate function out of their apps could be extremely frustrated.

I'm pretty much the same way, only apps I use are awful, readit, myTube, and facebook messenger. The annoyance and lack of apps doesn't really affect me.

Although the facebook messenger apps drains battery ridiculously fast, and forced me to uninstall it and use the website instead. The facebook app luckily provides notifications for messaging.

Would have of course preferred a 930/icon instead of the m8 windows, as it was a logical upgrade from the 920. Microsoft probably hosed that one up.

Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday

Zarfol posted:

I'm pretty much the same way, only apps I use are awful, readit, myTube, and facebook messenger. The annoyance and lack of apps doesn't really affect me.

Although the facebook messenger apps drains battery ridiculously fast, and forced me to uninstall it and use the website instead. The facebook app luckily provides notifications for messaging.

Would have of course preferred a 930/icon instead of the m8 windows, as it was a logical upgrade from the 920. Microsoft probably hosed that one up.

Windows Phone - Microsoft probably hosed that one up

MobMentality
Aug 22, 2007

I'm Mike Doyle.

Wheezle posted:

Windows Phone - Microsoft probably hosed that one up

Wouldn't it be great if a member of their design team was a member of the forums and could see this instead of the fan boy bullshit over at Windows Central?

Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday

MobMentality posted:

Wouldn't it be great if a member of their design team was a member of the forums and could see this instead of the fan boy bullshit over at Windows Central?

Xylo please take note of my shitposting and use it to enhance your mobile platform.

Venusy
Feb 21, 2007

Pipski posted:

Man, that sucks. I need to be able to Word on phone though, there's no getting away from it. Nuts. Guess I'm going back to Android.

Also, I may be very dense, but how come if I crop a photo and then save it, if I then reopen it in Lumia creative studio the crops are restored? I can't work that out at all.
There are two versions of the photo - the original (in the Camera Roll), and the cropped version (which gets placed in Saved Pictures). It sounds like you're opening the original in Lumia Creative Studio.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
<img src="https://forumimages.somethingawful.com/images/newbie.gif" border=0>

Wheezle posted:

Xylo please take note of my shitposting and use it to enhance your mobile platform.
Shitposting noted.

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

xylo posted:

Shitposting noted.

Do decision makers on the WP team know how frustrated and discontented even their former fanboys and apologists are getting?

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
My brother has a M8 windows phone (brand new) and is having an issue. With any extra app that didn't come with the phone he gets an error trying to use it. First if he actually tries to use the app (which has been downloaded and installed) it just goes to the app download page with an "update app" button on it. If he clicks update it says theres a problem with his Microsoft Account and to click next to fix it. Clicking next goes to the Microsoft Account page where he logs in and... Nothing. It logs in fine but going back to the app just becomes rinse repeat.

Any ideas?

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


Does his Microsoft account have two factor authentication? That might be the issue, so he'll have to create an app password and use that instead when prompted to login.

And xylo, tell people that there's people hankering for a 1020 successor, preferably soon. :)

JPrime
Jul 4, 2007

tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales!
College Slice

LifeSizePotato posted:

Do decision makers on the WP team know how frustrated and discontented even their former fanboys and apologists are getting?

Man, I'd hope so. :negative:

Still would like playlists on my phone, please.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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LifeSizePotato posted:

Do decision makers on the WP team know how frustrated and discontented even their former fanboys and apologists are getting?
What WP team? :v:

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

And xylo, tell people that there's people hankering for a 1020 successor, preferably soon. :)
I poked JoeB about it a few weeks back cause I want one too. I hope they do come out with one though as my 1020 is a bit long in the tooth. I wish I knew what was in the pipe but I don't, so I feel your pain. :smith:

xylo fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Dec 28, 2014

hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007
[Lumia 1020 goon]

Yah I can sell my 1020 without fear of a fire sale in the next few weeks. Thanks Microsoft goon!

hotsauce fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Dec 28, 2014

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."
Took advantage of the $50 Xbox music offer during the daily deals last week...and almost regretting it.

Cripes, with all the grief the Xbox music app on the phone gets, the 8.1 app is something else. It's really astonishing how poor designed and buggy these apps are, I really have to wonder if the team has ever used a music player before.

Branch Nvidian
Nov 29, 2012



The Zune was a disaster, so they can't use anything from that.

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008
You can buy a Lumia 1020 for £160 with Canberra grip and coloud pop head phones. For that price it's a really good deal I think.

Or at least I'm enjoying it!

If anyone has good tips for taking pictures of moving objects in all ears - right now I'm getting a lot of blue although landscapes look fantastic!

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009
So I finally dunked my 1520 in a bath. It was submerged for a little under a second, the screen was initially unresponsive but after a restart (I held the power button to cut power to circuits before the water causes a short) turned off OK. It's currently sitting in a box of rice to absorb any other water after I removed the sim and micro SD. The SD has a little water which was reporting as unrecognised/unloaded.

I think it will be generally OK though I'm concerned the microphone and/or speakers will be hosed if the diaphragms are paper.

Any thoughts on this? How resistant are 1520s from water dunks?

In the meantime I'm back on the 920. My god it's teeny. (speaking if which I totally forgot the 920 screen has a tobacco-yellow tinge at the bottom near the buttons, post 8.1 preview install from way back iirc. Is this normal? What is it?)

Mr Funkface fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Dec 28, 2014

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh
Does anyone know if there are any official apps for 3rd party sites that actually work well? For instance, the Live Tile no longer works for Engadget and was last updated 10 months ago.

BabyMauler
Sep 19, 2005

Variable_H posted:

The Zune was a disaster, so they can't use anything from that.

The Zune desktop program rocked. It was still way way way more useable than every current Xbox Music anything.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

BabyMauler posted:

The Zune desktop program rocked. It was still way way way more useable than every current Xbox Music anything.

:thejoke:

Everything about the Zune was high quality well engineered stuff by the end. Easily the best take on a music platform Microsoft has ever had, or ever will at the current rate.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

:thejoke:

Everything about the Zune was high quality well engineered stuff by the end. Easily the best take on a music platform Microsoft has ever had, or ever will at the current rate.

Yeah both the hardware and software were top notch... So naturally Microsoft had to abandon it.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

BonoMan posted:

Yeah both the hardware and software were top notch... So naturally Microsoft had to abandon it.

Time did pass the entire concept by a bit, but the failure to parlay the Zune stuff into a cornerstone of the new phone offering was a boneheaded mistake to make. As it happens they also later rather trashed a lot of what was good about their first try at a phone platform as well, so I guess having the decent parts of Zune survive both revamps would have been too much to expect.

I'm on Spotify and pretty OK with the mobile situation myself these days, so I have very little personal investment in that, but it is hard not to recognize it as a series of messups anyway. I rather hope that the Zune team got good positions in other divisions, as they quite clearly knew what they were doing despite fighting an almost impossible fight at the time.

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

Time did pass the entire concept by a bit, but the failure to parlay the Zune stuff into a cornerstone of the new phone offering was a boneheaded mistake to make. As it happens they also later rather trashed a lot of what was good about their first try at a phone platform as well, so I guess having the decent parts of Zune survive both revamps would have been too much to expect.

I'm on Spotify and pretty OK with the mobile situation myself these days, so I have very little personal investment in that, but it is hard not to recognize it as a series of messups anyway. I rather hope that the Zune team got good positions in other divisions, as they quite clearly knew what they were doing despite fighting an almost impossible fight at the time.

Pretty much every key figure involved in the Zune (and the Xbox 360) left MS quite a while ago as I recall.

Pipski
Apr 18, 2004

Venusy posted:

There are two versions of the photo - the original (in the Camera Roll), and the cropped version (which gets placed in Saved Pictures). It sounds like you're opening the original in Lumia Creative Studio.

Aha, cheers dude. I'll try to work out how to open the Saved Pictures one. Much obliged!

e; nope, that's not it. Only pics are in Camera Roll. Guess I'll wait til I can get them on my desktop to edit. Bloody thing.

Pipski fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Dec 28, 2014

Zarfol
Aug 13, 2009
Good news!! Microsoft has finally released a great flagship!

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-Lumia-1330-specs-revealed-by-GFXBench-listing.133635.0.html

Can't wait to use my 5.7 inch phablet with a snapdragon 400!

This thing is going to suck unless it is priced low, wait didn't Microsoft already try that with the 830 but it was about $150 too much?

I understand going for the low cost market, but I can't imagine someone in a low cost market grabbing one of these.

Krinos
Nov 5, 2003

Zarfol posted:

This thing is going to suck unless it is priced low, wait didn't Microsoft already try that with the 830 but it was about $150 too much?

830 was released under Nokia; MS has only released the 535 and it was priced about right.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost
So thanks to the Christmas break, I finally got around to finishing a working build of a new Windows Phone app. So here it is: PSN Messenger. Currently it's unlisted, because I'm hoping there would be a few goons who would be open to trying it out and giving me feedback. I also set up a UserVoice for it, so people there can tell me how much the app sucks, or come up with some feature request I will ignore.

Currently it can
  • Manage Friends Lists
  • Send and receive messages (NOTE: No push/background notifications! I did not re-implement that.)
  • View Trophy Lists
  • View Recent Activities
  • View Live From PlayStation broadcasts.
  • Session Invites
  • Search for users

This is a rewrite of FoulPlay, the other PlayStation app I pulled from the store earlier this year. This version, as far as I can tell, has no hard lock issue that the previous version had. So basically, it should not gently caress up your phone if you install it. Also, the actual layout of the app should be a bit cleaner and should actually look nice now. I have not rewritten every feature that other app had, but that's because I want to make sure the base app actually works fine before adding a billion features to it that only partially work.

If you're interested it in at all, you may want to download it. When it becomes stable enough and I want to actually publish it, I may start charging for it (Only like a buck or two, but still).

repeating
Nov 14, 2005

BonoMan posted:

My brother has a M8 windows phone (brand new) and is having an issue. With any extra app that didn't come with the phone he gets an error trying to use it. First if he actually tries to use the app (which has been downloaded and installed) it just goes to the app download page with an "update app" button on it. If he clicks update it says theres a problem with his Microsoft Account and to click next to fix it. Clicking next goes to the Microsoft Account page where he logs in and... Nothing. It logs in fine but going back to the app just becomes rinse repeat.

Any ideas?

How old is he? Child MS accounts have to have approval for apps. Is there an error number?

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

repeating posted:

How old is he? Child MS accounts have to have approval for apps. Is there an error number?

He's in his 30s but I think I figured it out. He had a 920, but he just switched over to his own AT&T account instead of our shared family plan when he got the M8. When I log in on a computer to his associated Microsoft Account, it's just showing his old phone. I'm thinking his Microsoft Account isn't associated with his current M8 phone.

repeating
Nov 14, 2005

BonoMan posted:

He's in his 30s but I think I figured it out. He had a 920, but he just switched over to his own AT&T account instead of our shared family plan when he got the M8. When I log in on a computer to his associated Microsoft Account, it's just showing his old phone. I'm thinking his Microsoft Account isn't associated with his current M8 phone.

Even if he created a new account it would work. Just check what's listed for "Microsoft account" in Settings>Email + Accounts.

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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Is it a bad thing I want to upgrade my 920 to a 1520? I love the gigantic-ness of it all, and it's a quad core 1080p phone. Is there really anything bad about the 1520?

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